North Korea's Military Threat Options

[sirgika]

LOL. With a kill ratio of 25:1 they would have defeated the N. Vietnamese, this is BS.

Then prove otherwise.

Uhhh, you know this could have been used for propaganda reasons, like Zaitsev's sniper duel in Stalingrad.

[sirgika]

Let me guess, you are a Korean nationalist. There are too many of those drones. There's nothing wrong with being "proud" of your country (I personally think it is), just stick with the facts.

I'm a Korean nationalist, in the sense that I care for the future of my nation and my people. I don't brainwash myself with delusions, because that won't help anything. Rather than a nationalist, I would like to consider myself a patriot, and patriots are always proud of their countries, even if it degrades to the most pathetic $hithole in the universe.

Yup, you got that right. 2

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[oblivion38]

Uhhh, you know this could have been used for propaganda reasons, like Zaitsev's sniper duel in Stalingrad.

I asked for contrary evidence, not conspiracy theories.

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[sirgika]

Uhhh, you know this could have been used for propaganda reasons, like Zaitsev's sniper duel in Stalingrad.

I asked for contrary evidence, not conspiracy theories.

Uh, no... 2

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[oblivion38]

Uhhh, you know this could have been used for propaganda reasons, like Zaitsev's sniper duel in Stalingrad.

I asked for contrary evidence, not conspiracy theories.

Uh, no... 2

Uh, yes...?

Then prove otherwise.

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A thread of deletes. How exciting.

[PakJunSeung]

SKorean army sucks. Would you die to fight your fellow country men??? I wouldnt it'd be so $hit.

The NKoreans however are zealots. They would kill us all.

SKorean army is soft, i had a SKorean marine friend. He came down to AUstralia and we went nightclubbing together...he said he was imtimidated by the white people.... :|

A marine, someone whos supposed to be hard and willing to die and all that $hit was scared of a few big drunk white guys. He wasnt even that small either just normal size.

Thats whe i was like shiiiiiiiiit, SKorean army aint $hit. They are soft. Pampered and would get thier faces stomped by the North. You know its true, dont deny it!

Yes thats true. I believe S Korea has alot much to lose.

After all... N Korea... has ... the... skeleton of death

[Col]

Suicide bomber--national style =)

[YManchun]

[quote=JB_Xyooj,Jul 15 2005, 06:37 AM]
Pllleeeeaaassse the S.korean Army proved that they were weak pathetic Soldier's within the whole Korean war, they only started to win, when MacAurthur arrived
how embarrasing.

also i like to point out, S.korea Army can't stand on their own two feet without the U.S backining, to me The S.Korean Army is still a worthless child, not even worthy to be thrown a punch at.

But that's my opinion.

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You brought up the Korean war? Wow you must be a genius. I'm sorry I don't take your opinions seriously since I read your comments in thisthread. I could've bashed you a long time ago, but I wasn't in the mood for it.

[QUOTE]Look at these Number from 1995.....by now that number probally have double....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]do you think that small number...of S.korean defender and american Dog's
can hold off an whole entire army of Millions.....[/QUOTE]

Classic.

Since you brought up the Korean war as "proof" of how weak the Korean soldiers are. Maybe we can bring up the Vietnam War as "proof" since that conflict is a lot more recent.

http://orbat.com/site/history/historical/k...kinvietnam.html

[QUOTE]Koreans also had better field intelligence than their American counterparts. Koreans did counterinsurgency operations so well that American commanders felt Korean AOR is the safest. This is further supported when Vietcong documents captured after Tet Offensive warns their compatriots to never engage Koreans until full victory is certain. In fact, it is often the NVA and Vietcong who were ambushed by Koreans and not vice versa. Koreans used deadly hand-to-hand combat equally as destructive fire control.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Officers and men of the Capital Division were the best, received the best and fought well in Vietnam War. They boasted that they have a kill ratio of 1 to 17 and they do not exaggerate their body counts. Men of the 9th Infantry didn’t have same caliber as the Capital, but they achieved equal accomplishment in combat. From the creation, Korean Marines were the elite. In Korean War they earned the nickname "Invincible Marines," by foreign press after a Marine squad wiped out a Communist battalion. In Vietnam, they earned the new nickname "Devil Fighters," had a kill ratio of 1 to 25.[/QUOTE]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/wor...arine-corps.htm

[QUOTE]The ROK Marine Corps was established April 15, 1949 with an initial strength of 380 men. They won battles in both the Korean and Vietnam wars with invincibility as they were never defeated on the battlefield. As a result, they gained a fighting reputation with nicknames like; "Ghost Buster", "The Invincible ROK Marines" and "The Legendary ROK Marines".[/QUOTE]

http://www.vietquoc.com/jan15-00.htm

[QUOTE]RoK troops were champions in close combat, renowned in the Vietnam War for their bold ambushes. The Koreans were considered one of the two best combat forces in the Vietnam War. The other was the Australians. Korean commanders were tough and authoritarian under the eyes of the Vietnamese who still remembered how rigid the discipline of the Japanese army had been in 1941-45. A major might beat, slap a captain, a captain might do the same to a lieutenant, and so on...

In their areas of responsibility, curfews were strictly enforced. A person -Vietnamese or Korean - going out at night without a lamp was to commit suicide.[/QUOTE]

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/milreview/yi.pdf

[QUOTE]The vision forthe program originated during Jones’s tour of dutyas a lieutenant in Vietnam where he served alongside Republic of Korea (ROK) Marines and observed with keen interest how challenging physical combative training and a national military martial arts system unified these extremely skilled and fearsome Marines around a shared warrior ethos. Friend and foe alike knew ROK Marines were individually trained masters of close quarters combat—black belts in Tae Kwon Do—able to deal personally and ruthlessly with any enemy. To highlight their mystique and reputation, ROK Marines wore a unique uniform (tiger-striped fatigues) distinguishing them from other soldiers. Jones observed that the ROK Marines’ reputation so intimidated Viet Cong and North Vietnamese Army units they actively avoided ROKforces during combat. This insight profoundly affected Jones and shaped his vision of the course the USMC should follow.[/QUOTE]

http://www.viet-vet.com/vvk_gija.htm

[QUOTE]Koreans killing ratio has been 15:1,and they drove out the enemy from the swamp area of Vin Dhing, where both the French and Vidtnamese were not successful during the past 20 years. The basic characteristic of Koreans is their unending fighting spiril. It is not at all surprising that the enemy is avoiding contact with the Tiger,White Horse and Blue Dragon Warriors. Capured enemy documents
indicate that the VC are instructed not to make contact with Koreans.

- Saigon Post March,20,1968 -[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Captured Viet Cong orders now stipulate that contact with the Koreans is to be avoided at all costs unless a Viet Cong victory is 100% certain. Never defy Korean soldiers without discrimination, even when are not armed, for they all well trained with Taekwondo.

- An excerpt from an enemy directive seized[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]What would happen of six hundred thousand Koreans were exclusively conducting the Vietnam war? only fifty thausand Koreans repelled the enemy from their strategic responsibility area just overnight during the enemy's Tet offensive ...... The central coast area which Viet Cong had been occupying since their anti-French war is now completely under Koreans's control.

- 1966.3 미국 에반스빌 저널-[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The Americans in South Vietnam give the Koreans top markes both as fighting men and for their pacification efforts. Indeed, some Americans who have worked with the ROKs believe that it would not hurt the U.S to study their methods. "It's a little bit like being a teacher and having an extraor dinary student." mused ond U.S offical" You come to class one morning and discover he has gone past you."
-Newsweek 10 April 1967 -[/QUOTE]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/096...6144461-4267367

A passage in the Editorial Review of the book:

[QUOTE]"The ROK are a big help over here," said the U.S. Marines, who also figure prominently in the book, and were quick to recognize the ROK's expertise. "They're good troops all around. Fantastic soldiers, and their casualties are the lowest of any combat men over here. The Cong hate their guts, even more than the Aussies or us. They're deadly at close combat. Those cats are unsurpassed at judo and karate. Did you know the kill ratio of the Korean Tiger Division in South Vietnam is over sixteen VC to one ROK?" [/QUOTE]

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Vietnam/allied/ch06.htm#b4

[QUOTE]278 NVA had been KIA with the loss of just 11 Koreans, a kill ratio of 25.3 to 1."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Later in 1968 a Korean 9th Division operation titled BAEK Ma 9 commenced on 11 October and ended on 4 November with 382 enemy soldiers killed and the North Vietnamese 7th Battalion, 18th Regiment, rendered ineffective. During this operation, on 25 October, the eighteenth anniversary of the division, 204 of the enemy were killed without the loss of a single Korean soldier.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Wizen the operation ended, 155 enemy soldiers had been killed while the Koreans had three killed and one wounded.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Considered opinion was that it was good the Koreans were "friendlies."[/QUOTE]

GI Korea Blog (a blog from a US soldier in Korea if you didn't know):

http://jetiranger.tripod.com/BLOG/index.bl...tart=1117402211

[QUOTE]Koreans should feel confident that the ROK Army is a highly trained and capable force that can competently defend South Korea. [/QUOTE]

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