S’pore gains from M’sia’s brain drain, Those leave are mostly Chinese Options

[chutzpah]

Source: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/2011/05/2...as-brain-drain/

S’pore gains from M’sia’s brain drain
Patrick Lee | May 21, 2011

Malaysia's brain drain is both heavily Chinese and concentrated just below the border, says a report by the World Bank.

PETALING JAYA: A large portion of the best and the brightest Malaysia has to offer have taken root in Singapore.

According to a 2011 World Bank report entitled “Malaysia Economic Monitor: Brain Drain”, 121, 662 highly-skilled Malaysians migrated to the island nation by 2010.

This accounted for nearly half of the 276, 558 Malaysians registered as “brain drain” individuals by 2010.

Additionally, the report said a total of 385, 979 Malaysians were residents of Singapore in 2010.

“Singapore alone absorbs 57% of the entire (Malaysian) diaspora, with most of the remainder residing in Australia, Brunei, United Kingdom and the United States,” the report added.

On top of that, it said that 88% of Malaysians residing in Singapore were ethnic Chinese, with Malays and Indians accounting for 6% and 5% respectively.

It has been estimated that there are more than one million Malaysians residing overseas.

Top reasons for migration

According to respondents interviewed by the World Bank, the top three drivers of brain drain included career prospects (66%), social injustice (60%) and compensation (54%).

The report also noted a worrying fact: one out of every 10 Malaysian with tertiary degrees in 2000 migrated to countries listed under the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development).

This, the report said, was twice the global average. It added that if the list included Singapore, it would have been two out of 10.

The report also revealed that Malaysia’s brain drain had gone up, claiming that the “skilled diaspora” was three times larger than it was 20 years ago.

However, the report said that the true number of Malaysians in Singapore might be much larger, especially with non-residents working there.

Every day, thousands of Malaysians cross the border over the jam-packed Causeway from Johor Baru to work in the island nation.

Strong sense of attachment

However, the report said that many overseas Malaysians did not scorn their place of birth. “Surveys of the Malaysian diaspora point to a strong sense of attachment to the motherland,” it said.

Numbers showed that almost half of the the Malaysian diaspora possesed a strong sense of patriotism or emotional attachments to the country. Another 20% remained undecided.

“This seems to suggest that many Malaysians remain connected to home even though they are living or studying abroad,” the report added.

It said that many Malaysians were likely to return if “enabling conditions were satisfied”, especially over “talent management policies”.

Respondents surveyed in the report largely suggested a paradigm shift from race-based towards needs-based affirmative action. A large portion also called for a change to take place in the government and public sector.

Adding to these thoughts, the World Bank said there was some progress made with the Government Transformation Programme (GTP) and the Economic Transformation Programme (ETP).

However, the report said in order to have a lasting impact, the country needed more broad-based productivity and “investment climate enhancements.”

“Productivity and inclusiveness lie at the heart of Malaysia’s transformation programme. Implementing these forcefully will go a long way towards turning the brain drain into a gain,” it said.

[humiliator]

Losing primitive people to singapore is deemed as 'brain drain' ?

Huh.

Looks more like 'scumbag drain' to me.

[elleX0]

Losing primitive people to singapore is deemed as 'brain drain' ?

Huh.

Looks more like 'scumbag drain' to me.

He who laughs last, laughs longest.

[skinheadselamany...]

Go wherever you wish to go. This ain't some commie state limiting the movements of it's citizens. Why the fu-k can't these political hate mongers write something of interest once in a while??

[humiliator]

He who laughs last, laughs longest.

Don't care much for laughing.

I just love how things are.

We get rid of our scumbags,
the scumbags get employment,
and
Singapore happy to accept our scumbags.

So you see, everyone is happy.

[swingdoctor]

Don't care much for laughing.

I just love how things are.

We get rid of our scumbags,
the scumbags get employment,
and
Singapore happy to accept our scumbags.

So you see, everyone is happy.

Yeah the d!ckheads get left behind.

Malaysia looses its brightest and you are happy. Singapore is obviously happy to accept them. Then again look at where Singapore is now and where is Malaysia. Many of Singapore's politicians and business leaders are/were Malaysian, their contributions could easily have been to Malaysia, but there are people in Malaysia who would rather loose these talents and protect their "special prevelidges". Boast about how they can build an engine, LOL, engine technology is more then 100 years old, and its not that the engine their country built is state of the art. Its put into the cheapest car on the market overseas and it still can't sell. The only people buying them are nostalgic Malaysians. Brag about how with China, Malaysia will be "richer" faster when many of the countries around her are overtaking her in terms of wealth. Singapore has so far overtaken Malaysia that kalau Singapore kentut Malaysia pun tak boleh bau.

I have had a good laugh today.

[dinsmann]

Yeah the d!ckheads get left behind.

Malaysia looses its brightest and you are happy. Singapore is obviously happy to accept them. Then again look at where Singapore is now and where is Malaysia. Many of Singapore's politicians and business leaders are/were Malaysian, their contributions could easily have been to Malaysia, but there are people in Malaysia who would rather loose these talents and protect their "special prevelidges". Boast about how they can build an engine, LOL, engine technology is more then 100 years old, and its not that the engine their country built is state of the art. Its put into the cheapest car on the market overseas and it still can't sell. The only people buying them are nostalgic Malaysians. Brag about how with China, Malaysia will be "richer" faster when many of the countries around her are overtaking her in terms of wealth. Singapore has so far overtaken Malaysia that kalau Singapore kentut Malaysia pun tak boleh bau.

I have had a good laugh today.

Malaysia is in fact the 'brain-centre' for overseas chinese, in whatever field you can think of. The top 20 jutawans is all chinese except one. They like Tanah Melayu so much, as here is where they sharpen their economic mongering skills with the help of good and most tolerant malay good governance. Go wherever you please, where the pasture is greener. Eventually some of you will come back because you will miss the durians and petai. You have made it good in Malaysia. We malays are very docile and kind people and willingly accept your whims and fancy such those vernacular schools.

[swingdoctor]

Malaysia is in fact the 'brain-centre' for overseas chinese, in whatever field you can think of. The top 20 jutawans is all chinese except one. They like Tanah Melayu so much, as here is where they sharpen their economic mongering skills with the help of good and most tolerant malay good governance. Go wherever you please, where the pasture is greener. Eventually some of you will come back because you will miss the durians and petai. You have made it good in Malaysia. We malays are very docile and kind people and willingly accept your whims and fancy such those vernacular schools.

Don't kid yourself, whenever there's a racial riot or religious riots, Malays are always involved. Every major racial riot in Malaysia have involved Malays. The treatment of the minorities in Malaysia do not back your statement that Malays are tolerant, they just think they are. They think that just because they "allow" Chinese and Indians to live in Malaysia, they are therefore tolerant. But ask a Chinese to demand equality and see what happens, or ask an Indian to ask for religious equality and see what happens. Virtually every violent demonstration in Malaysia is by Malays, of course in their eyes there is always a "justifyable" reason for it. Weather its Christians wanting to use the word Allah, or a rumour that a church is converting a Muslim.

Don't kid yourself

[skinheadselamany...]

http://www.littlespeck.com/content/people/...ople-051003.htm

Racism Lives on in Singapore
One generation of sophistication hasn't erased it. By Seah Chiang Nee.
Oct 3, 2005

A Chinese woman was serving food to an Indonesian maid at a hospital canteen when, midway, she laid the plate aside to serve a well-dressed gentleman.

She then turned back to continue filling the maid's order. It happened quickly, as though it was a normal thing to do. When I complained to her that it was not the right thing to discriminate against a maid, she apologised profusely - to me.

Years ago, a Philippine lady executive told me how she would be given the cold shoulder whenever she wore informal clothes. "To Singaporeans, every Filipina is a maid who has to enter through the back door," she said.

Among even educated Singaporeans who use public transport, complaints like "dirty, smelly" Bangladeshis are frequently heard.

After years of education, one would imagine that racism has become a thing of the past, at least among the educated class. Guess again!

Even among the elites, racism sometimes raises its ugly head. Years ago, when Choo Wee Khiang was People's Action Party Member of Parliament, he made disparaging remarks about Indians and "Little India".

He told Parliament: "One evening, I drove to Little India and it was pitch dark but not because there was no light, but because there were too many Indians around."

Few Singaporeans, including Indians, dared to criticise a PAP MP, considered a "powerful man" not to be trifled with. He later apologised.

At the back of some minds lurks an arrogance of race superiority or looking down on the inferior. Some talk about it; others act on their bias.

Chua Cheng Zhan, 21, was a Singaporean government scholar who was groomed for high government service.

The mathematics student at Northwestern University, USA, wrote in his online diary: "Somehow, the Singaporean Association here in my school has become an Indian association. So gross, some more non-Singaporean.

"Ya. I discovered I'm so racist. At the club (under lighting in which everyone is supposed to look good), I still find Indians and Filipinos (dark ones) so repulsive and such a turn-off."

Chua was admonished by the government department, which granted him the scholarship.

Some see it as racism; others call it class distinction in which the better-off look down on the poor and under-achievers. Many of these examples reflect racial bias and/or class distinction among

Singaporeans who look down on people less successful than them.

It also explains why so many Singaporeans, of all races, mistreat or abuse their maids as well as labourers.

The last time Singapore had a racial riot was in 1964, but since then things have been tranquil. A whole new generation has passed out from schools and universities, more argumentative and articulate.

The various races had been brought up with increasing familiarity with each other that it often clouds racial sensitivity.

The city has become more sophisticated, cosmopolitan; the warnings of a race blow-up are forgotten or ignored. Racism has also widened to include foreign residents.

Singaporeans have made insulting remarks about "ugly, rude" Chinese mainlanders here. And some Western restaurants are sometimes accused of discriminating against locals in favour of Caucasian diners.

But it is still the Malay-Chinese issues that pose the biggest threat. The potential dangers become stark under the threat of Jemaah Islamiah bombings, which could result, it is feared, in a backlash against innocent Muslims.

The government has put in place plans involving religious and community leaders of all races that will mitigate race violence if the bombs do go off.

Since independence, one of Singapore's priorities has been to build cohesion among its races. It's one of the few countries in the world that observes a Racial Harmony Day every year.

The city's schools and housing estates enforce ethnic quotas based on the race populations to prevent racial enclaves.

The system ensures the majority Chinese live with a certain ratio of Malays and Indians and vice-versa. As a result, children grow up with at least some racial mixing both at school and their residential blocks.

For many years, community leaders had been organising cross-visits to celebrate each other's New Year festivals.

The result has not eradicated idiotic race remarks by young people who believe that the Internet and free expressions give them the licence to say what they want.

Three young bloggers have just been charged under the Sedition Act for making disparaging remarks about race and religion.

It started with a letter from Mdm Zuraimah Mohammed, who said she saw a taxi with a small dog sitting at the back, and questioned whether cab companies allowed this.

"Dogs may drool on the seats or dirty them with their paws," she said.
It was nothing extraordinary, but it earned some unwarranted comments from two Singaporean bloggers. They were charged under the Sedition Act.

In his personal web journal, Koh Song Huat wrote anti-Malay and anti-Muslim comments.

He had used insulting words to describe Malays, satirised their social customs and religious prohibitions, and used a rude tone to joke about Allah. The second person was Nicholas Lim Yew, 25.

In an unrelated case, private school student Gan Huai Shi, 17, faces seven charges.

Targeting Malays and Muslims, Gan said he wanted to blow up Muslim holy sites and added that "the Malays must be eliminated before it is too late".

Hate messages have become a norm on the Net. It has reached a proportion that is forcing the government to plan strengthening the Sedition Act because the penalties don't match up to the crime.

After 40 years, it raises a question mark on Singaporeans' maturity.

[swingdoctor]

http://www.littlespeck.com/content/people/...ople-051003.htm

Racism Lives on in Singapore
One generation of sophistication hasn't erased it. By Seah Chiang Nee.
Oct 3, 2005

A Chinese woman was serving food to an Indonesian maid at a hospital canteen when, midway, she laid the plate aside to serve a well-dressed gentleman.

She then turned back to continue filling the maid's order. It happened quickly, as though it was a normal thing to do. When I complained to her that it was not the right thing to discriminate against a maid, she apologised profusely - to me.

Years ago, a Philippine lady executive told me how she would be given the cold shoulder whenever she wore informal clothes. "To Singaporeans, every Filipina is a maid who has to enter through the back door," she said.

Among even educated Singaporeans who use public transport, complaints like "dirty, smelly" Bangladeshis are frequently heard.

After years of education, one would imagine that racism has become a thing of the past, at least among the educated class. Guess again!

Even among the elites, racism sometimes raises its ugly head. Years ago, when Choo Wee Khiang was People's Action Party Member of Parliament, he made disparaging remarks about Indians and "Little India".

He told Parliament: "One evening, I drove to Little India and it was pitch dark but not because there was no light, but because there were too many Indians around."

Few Singaporeans, including Indians, dared to criticise a PAP MP, considered a "powerful man" not to be trifled with. He later apologised.

At the back of some minds lurks an arrogance of race superiority or looking down on the inferior. Some talk about it; others act on their bias.

Chua Cheng Zhan, 21, was a Singaporean government scholar who was groomed for high government service.

The mathematics student at Northwestern University, USA, wrote in his online diary: "Somehow, the Singaporean Association here in my school has become an Indian association. So gross, some more non-Singaporean.

"Ya. I discovered I'm so racist. At the club (under lighting in which everyone is supposed to look good), I still find Indians and Filipinos (dark ones) so repulsive and such a turn-off."

Chua was admonished by the government department, which granted him the scholarship.

Some see it as racism; others call it class distinction in which the better-off look down on the poor and under-achievers. Many of these examples reflect racial bias and/or class distinction among

Singaporeans who look down on people less successful than them.

It also explains why so many Singaporeans, of all races, mistreat or abuse their maids as well as labourers.

The last time Singapore had a racial riot was in 1964, but since then things have been tranquil. A whole new generation has passed out from schools and universities, more argumentative and articulate.

The various races had been brought up with increasing familiarity with each other that it often clouds racial sensitivity.

The city has become more sophisticated, cosmopolitan; the warnings of a race blow-up are forgotten or ignored. Racism has also widened to include foreign residents.

Singaporeans have made insulting remarks about "ugly, rude" Chinese mainlanders here. And some Western restaurants are sometimes accused of discriminating against locals in favour of Caucasian diners.

But it is still the Malay-Chinese issues that pose the biggest threat. The potential dangers become stark under the threat of Jemaah Islamiah bombings, which could result, it is feared, in a backlash against innocent Muslims.

The government has put in place plans involving religious and community leaders of all races that will mitigate race violence if the bombs do go off.

Since independence, one of Singapore's priorities has been to build cohesion among its races. It's one of the few countries in the world that observes a Racial Harmony Day every year.

The city's schools and housing estates enforce ethnic quotas based on the race populations to prevent racial enclaves.

The system ensures the majority Chinese live with a certain ratio of Malays and Indians and vice-versa. As a result, children grow up with at least some racial mixing both at school and their residential blocks.

For many years, community leaders had been organising cross-visits to celebrate each other's New Year festivals.

The result has not eradicated idiotic race remarks by young people who believe that the Internet and free expressions give them the licence to say what they want.

Three young bloggers have just been charged under the Sedition Act for making disparaging remarks about race and religion.

It started with a letter from Mdm Zuraimah Mohammed, who said she saw a taxi with a small dog sitting at the back, and questioned whether cab companies allowed this.

"Dogs may drool on the seats or dirty them with their paws," she said.
It was nothing extraordinary, but it earned some unwarranted comments from two Singaporean bloggers. They were charged under the Sedition Act.

In his personal web journal, Koh Song Huat wrote anti-Malay and anti-Muslim comments.

He had used insulting words to describe Malays, satirised their social customs and religious prohibitions, and used a rude tone to joke about Allah. The second person was Nicholas Lim Yew, 25.

In an unrelated case, private school student Gan Huai Shi, 17, faces seven charges.

Targeting Malays and Muslims, Gan said he wanted to blow up Muslim holy sites and added that "the Malays must be eliminated before it is too late".

Hate messages have become a norm on the Net. It has reached a proportion that is forcing the government to plan strengthening the Sedition Act because the penalties don't match up to the crime.

After 40 years, it raises a question mark on Singaporeans' maturity.

As your article points out most of the racism in Singapore is class based, except against Malays.

Even so the level of racism agaisnt Malays in Singapore is not as high as the levels of racism against Chinese/Indian in Malaysia. In Singapore 3 "nobodies" get jailed for making generalised disparaging remarks about Malays. In Malaysia, 3 reporters can desacrate the Holy Eucharist, report on it and still not be charged. Politicians can threathen Chiniese holding up a kris chanting that Chinese blood will be spilled, and still not even be questioned. Politicians can tell non Malays, they can "balik kampong", if they don't like the way they are discriminated against in Malaysia, he is not even brought in for questioning but the reporters and politicians who report his words are hauled in for questioning, and some jailed without trial under the ISA.

Singapore is not perfect, but in terms of its racial tolerance, it is still way ahead of Malaysia. Remember this, Malay Singaporeans have the oppertunity to migrate to Malaysia, and live as "Bumiputeras" enjoying its prevelidges, and despite the "racism" they experience the vast, vast majority of them have chosen to remain in Singapore. Are they simply stupid and/or too lazy to migrate, or do they after weighing up everything still feel that life for them in Singapore is still better then in Malaysia.

[skinheadselamany...]

http://asianracism.blogspot.com/2008/01/di...-singapore.html

Digging up Facts of Singapore

One of the more annoying double standards that i have encountered in Asia is that of the Singaporean mindset towards migration. Now, i need to clearly articulate that i mean chinese Singaporean. You see, many chiense Singaporeans are rightly very critical of Australia's former 'white australia' migration policy. It was a racist piece of garbage that belongs on the scrap heap of history. By and large, Australia has moved on from the days of only allowing 'whites' who could speak english to their shores.

But fast forward to the 21st century and we have in Singapore a blatantly pro-chinese migration policy still in place. Indeed, it was set up in the led up to Hong Kong returning to Chinese rule.

Basically the policy is this:

Hong Kong citizens can migrate to Singapore. They are given assistance. No education requirements. At the time the then Prime-Minister of Singapore refereed to the need to keep Singapore predominately chinese to ensure it's economic success (read in between the lines what you will.

The proof of this policy is still out there at the following places here here and here

To be balanced although the migration policy has been publicly linked to keeping the proportion of Singapore's population that is Chinese above a certain percentage, nothing explicitaly states you MUST be chinese, it is very clear that the policy is aimed at recruiting Chinese hong-kong citizens and as this is the only ethnic group that is being targeted in such a way it then lends itself to the question: if the white Australia policy was so racist and so evil, how is this any different or better? The answer to that (IMHO) is none.

Sure, defenders of it will say that Singapore has a non-discriminatory migration policy. They will also say as long as you have the skills you can migrate to Singapore. True to an extent, but if a non-asian country were to introduce such a scheme to keep a certain ethnic mix stable, to proactively recruit a specific ethnic group (which is already the majority) it would rightly be labeled as discriminatory and racist. Why then do many chinese singaporeans feel the need to defend such a policy whilst rightly condemning former very similar schemese hatched by neighboring countries? The double standard is alive and well.

Death to racism.

Wherever it is found.

This post has been edited by skinheadselamanya: Jun 6 2011, 09:58 PM

[swingdoctor]

http://asianracism.blogspot.com/2008/01/di...-singapore.html

Digging up Facts of Singapore

One of the more annoying double standards that i have encountered in Asia is that of the Singaporean mindset towards migration. Now, i need to clearly articulate that i mean chinese Singaporean. You see, many chiense Singaporeans are rightly very critical of Australia's former 'white australia' migration policy. It was a racist piece of garbage that belongs on the scrap heap of history. By and large, Australia has moved on from the days of only allowing 'whites' who could speak english to their shores.

But fast forward to the 21st century and we have in Singapore a blatantly pro-chinese migration policy still in place. Indeed, it was set up in the led up to Hong Kong returning to Chinese rule.

Basically the policy is this:

Hong Kong citizens can migrate to Singapore. They are given assistance. No education requirements. At the time the then Prime-Minister of Singapore refereed to the need to keep Singapore predominately chinese to ensure it's economic success (read in between the lines what you will.

The proof of this policy is still out there at the following places here here and here

To be balanced although the migration policy has been publicly linked to keeping the proportion of Singapore's population that is Chinese above a certain percentage, nothing explicitaly states you MUST be chinese, it is very clear that the policy is aimed at recruiting Chinese hong-kong citizens and as this is the only ethnic group that is being targeted in such a way it then lends itself to the question: if the white Australia policy was so racist and so evil, how is this any different or better? The answer to that (IMHO) is none.

Sure, defenders of it will say that Singapore has a non-discriminatory migration policy. They will also say as long as you have the skills you can migrate to Singapore. True to an extent, but if a non-asian country were to introduce such a scheme to keep a certain ethnic mix stable, to proactively recruit a specific ethnic group (which is already the majority) it would rightly be labeled as discriminatory and racist. Why then do many chinese singaporeans feel the need to defend such a policy whilst rightly condemning former very similar schemese hatched by neighboring countries? The double standard is alive and well.

Death to racism.

Wherever it is found.

This is a blogspot, it is not an informed piece of journalism, merely a layperson's opinion. I don't know what the authour means by Singaporeans being critical of Australia's "White Australian" policy because I have never come across it. I spend alot of time in Singapore and I have never come across any person from HK being given special treatment by the Singapore govnt. What I do know is that Singapore is the greatest opportunist around, and they are quite happy to take anybody in as long as it will benefit the nation. Maids from the Phillipines and Indonesia, Bangladeshi construction workers, professionals from anywhere in the world. Rightly or wrongly their main and sometimes only aim is progress, which they have achieved with spectacular success. To me at what cost and personally i sometimes feel when i'm there, Singapore has no soul, but this is a discussion for another thread.

I do agree with the autheors last comment though, and that is to racism, wherever it occurs, including Malaysia.

But i guess the bigger question is why do you keep posting articles about Singapore in the Malaysian thread? How is it pertinent to the discussion here? Besides racism in Malaysia is far worse then in Singapore.

[Darkblade]

Don't kid yourself, whenever there's a racial riot or religious riots, Malays are always involved. Every major racial riot in Malaysia have involved Malays. The treatment of the minorities in Malaysia do not back your statement that Malays are tolerant, they just think they are. They think that just because they "allow" Chinese and Indians to live in Malaysia, they are therefore tolerant. But ask a Chinese to demand equality and see what happens, or ask an Indian to ask for religious equality and see what happens. Virtually every violent demonstration in Malaysia is by Malays, of course in their eyes there is always a "justifyable" reason for it. Weather its Christians wanting to use the word Allah, or a rumour that a church is converting a Muslim.

Don't kid yourself

Lets put it this way I don't want "insert ethnic" people in China .. especially if they are in massive numbers and make up 20% of China's population. I also don't want "insert ethnic" people to take Macao and declare independence. Am I tolerant ? I surely don't like inequality, but then again I don't like "immigrants" swarming my homeland and declaring independence afterward.

[chutzpah]

Lets put it this way I don't want "insert ethnic" people in China .. especially if they are in massive numbers and make up 20% of China's population. I also don't want "insert ethnic" people to take Macao and declare independence. Am I tolerant ? I surely don't like inequality, but then again I don't like "immigrants" swarming my homeland and declaring independence afterward.

What absolutely garbagge!

[swingdoctor]

Lets put it this way I don't want "insert ethnic" people in China .. especially if they are in massive numbers and make up 20% of China's population. I also don't want "insert ethnic" people to take Macao and declare independence. Am I tolerant ? I surely don't like inequality, but then again I don't like "immigrants" swarming my homeland and declaring independence afterward.

I have no idea what you're referring to here. Are you opposed to Singapore's migration policies? Or Malaysia's? Your analogies don't make sense.

[Darkblade]

What absolutely garbagge!

Garbage ? Then why do singaporeans complain about immigration from mainland china ? I don't like immigrants flooding my country, singaporeans have their rights to decide

[swingdoctor]

Garbage ? Then why do singaporeans complain about immigration from mainland china ? I don't like immigrants flooding my country, singaporeans have their rights to decide

Thats right the govnt decides the migration policy and the people vote for the govnt. And they have just re-elected the PAP, so that tells you at the very least that the people in general are happy with the govnts performance.

[elleX0]

This is a blogspot, it is not an informed piece of journalism, merely a layperson's opinion. I don't know what the authour means by Singaporeans being critical of Australia's "White Australian" policy because I have never come across it. I spend alot of time in Singapore and I have never come across any person from HK being given special treatment by the Singapore govnt. What I do know is that Singapore is the greatest opportunist around, and they are quite happy to take anybody in as long as it will benefit the nation. Maids from the Phillipines and Indonesia, Bangladeshi construction workers, professionals from anywhere in the world. Rightly or wrongly their main and sometimes only aim is progress, which they have achieved with spectacular success. To me at what cost and personally i sometimes feel when i'm there, Singapore has no soul, but this is a discussion for another thread.

I do agree with the autheors last comment though, and that is to racism, wherever it occurs, including Malaysia.

But i guess the bigger question is why do you keep posting articles about Singapore in the Malaysian thread? How is it pertinent to the discussion here? Besides racism in Malaysia is far worse then in Singapore.

There is probably more tribalism in Singapore than there is racism, i.e., Hokkien, Cantonese, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim tribes.

[humiliator]

Yeah the d!ckheads get left behind.

Malaysia looses its brightest and you are happy. Singapore is obviously happy to accept them. Then again look at where Singapore is now and where is Malaysia. Many of Singapore's politicians and business leaders are/were Malaysian, their contributions could easily have been to Malaysia, but there are people in Malaysia who would rather loose these talents and protect their "special prevelidges". Boast about how they can build an engine, LOL, engine technology is more then 100 years old, and its not that the engine their country built is state of the art. Its put into the cheapest car on the market overseas and it still can't sell. The only people buying them are nostalgic Malaysians. Brag about how with China, Malaysia will be "richer" faster when many of the countries around her are overtaking her in terms of wealth. Singapore has so far overtaken Malaysia that kalau Singapore kentut Malaysia pun tak boleh bau.

I have had a good laugh today.

Yeah. Look at singapore now. Still too dumb to develop any big deal technology like the Euro-5 compliant car engine designed by malaysian malays.

Remember this, Malay Singaporeans have the oppertunity to migrate to Malaysia, and live as "Bumiputeras" enjoying its prevelidges, and despite the "racism" they experience the vast, vast majority of them have chosen to remain in Singapore. Are they simply stupid and/or too lazy to migrate, or do they after weighing up everything still feel that life for them in Singapore is still better then in Malaysia.

Wrong. Singaporean malays are not welcomed to be malaysians unless they have something important to contribute.

Malaysia is in fact the 'brain-centre' for overseas chinese, in whatever field you can think of. The top 20 jutawans is all chinese except one. They like Tanah Melayu so much, as here is where they sharpen their economic mongering skills with the help of good and most tolerant malay good governance. Go wherever you please, where the pasture is greener. Eventually some of you will come back because you will miss the durians and petai. You have made it good in Malaysia. We malays are very docile and kind people and willingly accept your whims and fancy such those vernacular schools.

Who da fu-k says all except one in the top 20 are from your destitute chinese people ?

This post has been edited by humiliator: Jun 8 2011, 05:31 AM

[swingdoctor]

Yeah. Look at singapore now. Still too dumb to develop any big deal technology like the Euro-5 compliant car engine designed by malaysian malays.


Wrong. Singaporean malays are not welcomed to be malaysians unless they have something important to contribute.

Last I read Proton was a Malaysian company, not a Malay one, even so again the engine is not state of the art is it, this despite acquiring Lotus technology. Besides how often has Petronas had to bail out Proton. How well is Proton selling overseas? Last I read Proton sales were declining globally. In England it makes up about 0.05% of car sales way behind their Japanese and Korean counterparts. Proton has been withdrawn from Ireland and Australia, it doesn't matter what engine you have if it doesn't sell does it? Whats the point of being Euro compiant when nobody there is bying the car. All you've done is wasted your money in getting it to comply. In Malaysia the main reason it sells is because of all the protection it is given by the Malaysian govnt. Your so called "bragging right" is in truth an international flop, sad thing is to you its national(or is it racial) pride. If you can't see this, no wonder Malaysia is lagging so far behind Singapore. Proton has had 20 odd years to get it right, and it still hasn't.

Singapore has a world leading water filtration, water recycling and water storage system. They have one of the best and most efficient ports in the world, they are the hub of petroleum trading in SEA, they are a financial centre etc etc.

The difference between Singapore and Malaysia is that Singapore invests in things that matter, Malaysia invests in things that artifically promotes national pride, Proton and the Twin Towers come to mind. By any way you measure it, Proton till today is an international flop. The Twin Towers was Mahathirs phallic symbol that he used Petronas to pay for. It didn't need to be built, and besides bragging rights serves no other purpose, when the money could have been better used elsewhere. The saviour of Malaysia and these useless projects has been Petronas. The petroleum money has been used to bail out companies and fund pointless projects. Remember though,the oil is about to dry up, then what Malaysia?

Back just after federation and for decades after Malays from Singapore could easily migrate to Malaysia and qualify for Bumi status, I don't know how easy it is now. Even so you're really not seeing many Malay Singaporeans clamouring to become Malaysians despite the attraction of Bumi status are you.