Should have jailed these nutcases! Options

[chiuchimu]

http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-japane...-activists.html

Japan is Tooooooo weak now-a-days.

Anti-Whaling Australians actually boarded a Japanese whaling vessel!!! These assholes didn't even spend a single night in Jail or pay a fine, They were returned to Australian authorities who didn't do anything to them either.

At minimum they should have spent a weak in a Japanese detention center while the case was investigated and their backgrounds and identities checked. On top of which, a big fine say $50,000 each for illegally boarding a Japanese ship would be totally appropriate.

To add insult to injury, every article I read on this includes a few lines about how commercial whaling is illegal under international law but Japan is using a loop hole to go around this law. WTF? Loop Hole? to go around the law? Why doesn't a single article(not even one in 20 years) ever point out that Japan has never broke an international whaling law. If the law is flawed, change it! Tell the truth! Don't imply that Japan is breaking the law because it suits western interest and ideology.

The western world is Toooooo racist.

[KraterosHellas]

that would not be right. they are a western nation. however if they were chinese, they would certainly have gone to jail. no question about that.

This post has been edited by KraterosHellas: Jan 17 2012, 04:10 AM

[SemperFidelis]

What case would need to be investigated? Their identities wouldnt need to be checked, they're a bunch of hippies well known for doing stupid $hit. Who would pay the $50 000 fine? They spent all their money on a crappy boat that sank a few years ago.

After how many years of whaling, what research does Japan still need to conduct?

[chiuchimu]

^ What difference if they need to research forever? Not the point.

Point one: Does Japan have sovereignty in Coastal waters? YES
Point two: Has Japan broken a whaling law? NO

enough said.

[SemperFidelis]

^ What difference if they need to research forever? Not the point.

Commercial whaling is banned to protect the number of whales from getting too low. If "researching" continues forever then their numbers will still be threatened. Considering most Australian's think the "research" is just an excuse to whale, then yes it is the point.

Point one: Does Japan have sovereignty in Coastal waters? YES
Point two: Has Japan broken a whaling law? NO

enough said.

Do they have sovereignty in Australian coastal waters which is where those hippies apparently boarded?

[chiuchimu]

Commercial whaling is banned to protect the number of whales from getting too low. If "researching" continues forever then their numbers will still be threatened. Considering most Australian's think the "research" is just an excuse to whale, then yes it is the point.

Still Irreverent. The type of whales taken and the number per year are within IWC rules. No whale taken by Japan is endangered of going extinct. "just an excuse" is an opinion; were is Japan breaking a IWC rule? If you don't like IWC laws, blame the IWC and have them change the laws.

Do they have sovereignty in Australian coastal waters which is where those hippies apparently boarded?

That's news to me. Australia has sovereignty in Australian coastal waters(coastal waters are 14 miles out from land). If Japan was doing anything in Australian coastal waters without permission than Japan was breaking Australian laws. Show me proof that Japan was IN Australian coastal waters without permission and I'll concede Japan broke Australian laws, otherwise, stop making up stuff and admit that Japan has never broke IWC laws.

[chutzpah]

Japan vote buying in the IWC

http://www.japanprobe.com/2010/06/14/japan...ing-at-the-iwc/


Whale sashimi feeding the hungry, never mind that it is endangereAad.

No doubt, many of you have seen the headlines about an investigation that uncovered the fact that Japan pays support to smaller countries that vote in favor of whaling at the IWC:

The Sunday Times said it found officials from St Kitts and Nevis, Grenada, the Marshall Islands, Kiribati, Guinea and Ivory Coast were willing to discuss selling their votes at the International Whaling Commission (IWC).

They admitted they voted with the pro-whaling grouping because of the aid they received from Japan, or because they were given cash or call girls.

The paper said Japan denies the claims and the ministry of foreign affairs said in a statement: “The government of Japan does not cover any cost of any other IWC member countries related to the IWC.”

One Tanzanian claimed that he and the other ministers were provided with “good girls” when they visited Japan, an allegation that has led a lot of news sources to run headlines stating that Japan bought votes at the IWC with “hookers.”

Most of the articles, however, fail to mention the history of “vote buying” in the IWC. A quick check of Wikipedia reveals that the practice began in 1970′s and 1980′s, when anti-whaling activists paid for a bunch of countries to join the the organization and vote in a manner that supported their financial backers:

The purpose of the IWC as specified in its constitution is “in safeguarding for future generations the great natural resources represented by the whale stocks;” and the original members consisted only of the 15 whale-hunting nations. However, since the late 1970s and early 1980s, many countries which have no previous history of whaling (some of which are landlocked such as Switzerland and Mongolia) have joined the IWC. This shift was first initiated by Sir Peter Scott, the then head of the World Wildlife Fund. Labelling the IWC a “butchers’ club”, he mounted lobbying campaigns in developed countries with support from the green lobby and anti whaling block of IWC members to change the composition of the IWC’s membership, which was instrumental in obtaining the necessary three-quarters majority vote to implement the moratorium on commercial whaling in 1986. This campaign triggered the first accusations of vote-buying in IWC. According to Scott’s biographer, Elspeth Huxley, China’s decision to join was influenced by a World Wildlife Fund promise to provide $1 million to fund a panda reserve. Dr. Michael Tillman, former IWC Commissioner of the United States, said in a radio interview that “there was what we called ‘common knowledge,’ that a number of countries joined and that their dues and the travel support was reportedly due to conservation groups providing it. So that, in a sense, one could say that the conservation groups set out a strategy that the Japanese copied.”

Whales, Japanese Lies, and Videotapes

Commentary by Captain Paul Watson
On Board the Sea Shepherd ship Steve Irwin

Japan has consistently lied throughout its entire history of whaling.

http://www.seashepherd.it/news-and-media/e...l-080308-1.html




Purely Scientific of course

This post has been edited by chutzpah: Jan 20 2012, 07:42 AM

[chiuchimu]

^ So the IWC is corrupt and that's Japans fault? LOL

Look at those pictures of the poor poor whales being horrifically harpooned!!

What a strange western world that has endless count of pictures of whales being harpoon even though the taking by Japan only amounts to a few hundred heads a year, yet try to get a single picture of the actual slaughtering process of Beef at a U.S. slaughterhouse or any white country slaughterhouse. Can't get one. Easy to get pictures of cattle - easy to get pictures of non offensive cleaned sides of beef hanging on racks. NO pictures of the bloody and gross process of killing and dressing a cow!

This BS is too ridiculous.

[chutzpah]

^ So the IWC is corrupt and that's Japans fault? LOL

Look at those pictures of the poor poor whales being horrifically harpooned!!

What a strange western world that has endless count of pictures of whales being harpoon even though the taking by Japan only amounts to a few hundred heads a year, yet try to get a single picture of the actual slaughtering process of Beef at a U.S. slaughterhouse or any white country slaughterhouse. Can't get one. Easy to get pictures of cattle - easy to get pictures of non offensive cleaned sides of beef hanging on racks. NO pictures of the bloody and gross process of killing and dressing a cow!

This BS is too ridiculous.

You are right, your reply is both BS and ridiculous.

1. While IWC itself is not necessarily corrupt, some of it's poor members are. The cause of this corruption is due solely on Japanese bribery. Yes Japan is guilty big time!

2. Cattles are not endangered. They are bred for food, there are millions of them. The same can not be said for whale. Or perhaps you have problem understanding the term endangered?

What kind of logic are you employing in your defense? Are you trying to be as scientific as the Japanese whaling?

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/oceans/the-in...ng-commission-0

Japan conducts commercial whaling in the Antarctic and North Pacific using a loophole in the IWC convention that allows countries to kill whales for "scientific research." It began this "scientific" whaling in the Antarctic in 1987, and in the North Pacific in 1996. The IWC has repeatedly requested that Japan end this "research" but under IWC rules, Japan is free to ignore the IWC and set its own quotas. The meat from this "research" whaling is packaged and sold on Japanese commercial markets.

BTW, if you dislike the West you should return to Korea or where ever it is you claim to come from. It is not a contest about us vs the West. It is about the endangered whale and Japanese deceit.

This post has been edited by chutzpah: Jan 20 2012, 03:55 PM

[chiuchimu]

^

I get it now.
Cattle were meant to be food but whales were not.
White IWC is righteous but all those weak colored nations got infected by evil Japan.
Loop holes are worst than breaking laws.
It's your right to speak your opinion(sorry THE truth) in a Japanese forum and I should go back to Japan if I criticize the West.

....Because in the end Whales are cute and Japan is a evil liar!




AF is so dead.
You can have the last word.

[PhanAT]

i seriously don't want to eat those cuties meat... in my country they are worshipped as gods of the sea.

This post has been edited by PhanAT: Jan 22 2012, 04:54 AM

[fivers]

why have whale meat when there are plenty of other fish less big/endangered to get extinct.. and less difficult to chase also...

it's kind of like chasing elephants for their steaks so amusing to see jp's enormous strenght for quest of delicatecies

[chutzpah]

^

I get it now.
Cattle were meant to be food but whales were not.
White IWC is righteous but all those weak colored nations got infected by evil Japan.
Loop holes are worst than breaking laws.
It's your right to speak your opinion(sorry THE truth) in a Japanese forum and I should go back to Japan if I criticize the West.

....Because in the end Whales are cute and Japan is a evil liar!




AF is so dead.
You can have the last word.

No you are far from getting it! It is about ENDANGERED species! Cows are bred for food, whales are ENDANGERED species that live in the wildness of the world ocean.

How is your English comprehension? Sorry I can't put in Korean for you!

[capricon2]

Whale meat probably shouldn't be eaten in large quantity no matter how good it taste. High level of mercury is retardation inducing especially to children.