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Indonesian Traditional ghost, can u edescribe mey,,,,
dekarabia
post Oct 11 2005, 01:51 AM
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(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif) hey, can u explain me about indonesian traditional ghost? like;
kuntilanak
Jalangkung --> is it same with ouija?
sundel bolng
pocong
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post Oct 11 2005, 06:57 PM
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sundel bolong = female ghost who have a hole on her tummy due to miscarriage

kuntilanak = female ghost wearing white overalls
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post Oct 11 2005, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (purnomor @ Oct 11 2005, 06:57 PM)
sundel bolong = female ghost who have a hole on her tummy due to miscarriage

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Correction : The hole is on her back (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/cool30.gif)
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post Oct 12 2005, 12:57 AM
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Nenek Lampir = a Witch (old woman witch, to be exact)

Pocong = a dead man/woman that came alive, wraped with white cloth. In Indonesia (or maybe somewhere else also), muslims, after they died, will be burried covered with white garment. I forgot what's the english term for that piece of white garment.

jalangkung permainan dengan memanggil roh orang yang sudah meninggal (orang halus)

jalangkung (alternative spelling: jailangkung) device used in a seance a straw man into which the spirit of a departed person not personally familiar to the audience has entered; this is fitted with something to write responses to questions

Hantu = Just an Indonesia term for Ghost.

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post Oct 12 2005, 01:33 AM
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Sundal Bolong aka Sundel Bolong.
This link might help you get the idea of what it means. Also on one of the picture (the upside down picture of a girl) is pocong.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/uzumaki/reviews/sundelbolong.htm

Some more Indonesian ghost: gondoruwo, wewegombel
setan gundul/gundhul = a bald small kid that kills people
Tuyul/tuyhul = same as above (javanesse story)
Nyai Blorong = a woman with a human upperside body and a snake lowerside body.
Ki Blorong / Aki Blorong = same as above (a man)

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post Oct 12 2005, 01:52 AM
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i really hate pocong and kuntilanak!!!
why dya talk bout those ghosts????
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post Oct 12 2005, 02:48 AM
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I don't believe in those things (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)
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post Oct 12 2005, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (furansizuka @ Oct 12 2005, 02:48 AM)


Ask your dad about gost stories tanah karo... how someone can kill another with a spell... (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif) ... some good stories.. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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post Oct 12 2005, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE (e_vaholic @ Oct 12 2005, 01:52 AM)
i really hate pocong and kuntilanak!!!
why dya talk bout those ghosts????
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Don't worry. During the fasting month, all manners of ghosts and demons are chained.














But from next month onwards, you're on your own............ (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif) (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif) (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif)
MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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post Oct 12 2005, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE (c2meang @ Oct 12 2005, 03:03 AM)
Ask your dad about gost stories tanah karo... how someone can kill another with a spell...  (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif) ... some good stories..    (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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I dun think he knows. He's not fully Karonese and has been in Java since 14 yrs old. So how do they kill peeps with a spell?
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post Oct 12 2005, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE (furansizuka @ Oct 12 2005, 03:26 AM)
QUOTE (c2meang @ Oct 12 2005, 03:03 AM)
Ask your dad about gost stories tanah karo... how someone can kill another with a spell...  (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif) ... some good stories..    (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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I dun think he knows. He's not fully Karonese and has been in Java since 14 yrs old. So how do they kill peeps with a spell?
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I've heard so many stories about a man in the village will go to a datu-datu/dukun to kill a girl who broke his heart or a man who is jealous about his friend richness. almost every year we go back to our village to visit our relatives and everytime my dad will warn not to speak with strangers or accept anything from strangers especially when we are in karo or simalungun area. One of my relative was almost died after a stranger gave him a glass of water (or maybe tuak.. I don't remember) in a lapo (warung). The glass was not poisoned or else he sould've died on the spot. But after the encounter with the stranger, he went home passing a wooded area, got confused and couldn't find his way home. After about 5 days he was found laying on the ground in the woods just about 200 meters away from his house. Thankfully he was still alive but still confused of where he was. He was taken to another dukun where he started to realize and remembered of what happened to him in the last few days. They found out that his neighbour did this to him since they've been having a fight over a piece of land in the village.
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post Oct 12 2005, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (c2meang @ Oct 12 2005, 03:59 AM)
QUOTE (furansizuka @ Oct 12 2005, 03:26 AM)
QUOTE (c2meang @ Oct 12 2005, 03:03 AM)
Ask your dad about gost stories tanah karo... how someone can kill another with a spell...  (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_twisted.gif) ... some good stories..    (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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I dun think he knows. He's not fully Karonese and has been in Java since 14 yrs old. So how do they kill peeps with a spell?
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I've heard so many stories about a man in the village will go to a datu-datu/dukun to kill a girl who broke his heart or a man who is jealous about his friend richness. almost every year we go back to our village to visit our relatives and everytime my dad will warn not to speak with strangers or accept anything from strangers especially when we are in karo or simalungun area. One of my relative was almost died after a stranger gave him a glass of water (or maybe tuak.. I don't remember) in a lapo (warung). The glass was not poisoned or else he sould've died on the spot. But after the encounter with the stranger, he went home passing a wooded area, got confused and couldn't find his way home. After about 5 days he was found laying on the ground in the woods just about 200 meters away from his house. Thankfully he was still alive but still confused of where he was. He was taken to another dukun where he started to realize and remembered of what happened to him in the last few days. They found out that his neighbour did this to him since they've been having a fight over a piece of land in the village.
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Uuuuh Dukun is spooky..... (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)


Oh yeah there is more Indonesian ghost:

Tuyul
A demon child or infant that usualy originate from the unrest spirit of aborted or miscarried fetus or baby. Tuyul look like a small child or a baby about 2 to 5 years old, but his face is rather horrible and evil. It seek "mother" for keep it, in return Tuyul will help it's master to stole money or gold from people in the neighbourhood. In return, the master must gave them "milk" and breast feeding it, that is with blood. So the master or "mother" doesn't necesarily female, male could do to. It is blood they suck. But unlike vampire, tuyul doesn't drink you to death. Just nough to suffer loss of blood. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

Genderuwo
Originate as a natural deity or spirit, kind of demon that guard and inhabit (penunggu) specific places such as big stone, big tree, cave, lake, empty house, and any other creepy and haunted places. But usually it prefer big "Waru" or "Beringin" tree as his house.
His form is bigger and taller than human, about 3 meter to 5 meter tall, some source report bigger sighthings. It whole body covered with thick hair, similar to bear or some kind of giant ape. It's canine teet is big and long, kinda Balinese monster mask.

Jenglot
A small living monstrous doll. Have striking similarity to troll doll. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)
It size about a palm of adult. Although it not moving in present of human, it hair and nail are growing, the sign that it is some kind of living thing. Some people believe that keeping and collecting these Jenglot mummies (that still live) can bring fortune, but with some kind of cost (tumbal).

Babi Ngepet or Were-Pig
It's some kind of "ilmu pesugihan" or black magic to be rich, but sell your soul to demon or satan. That the person who study this black magic sometimes will turn into a wild pig. This "Were-Pig" sometimes storming the village, and when the villager kill it, the pig corpse turn into a human body.

Kalong Wewe (sometimes called Kantong Wewe)
A horrible female demon with big enourmos breast. This demon love to eat children. She will catch the unguarded and stray kids. then put her victim in to the hole in her breast. Her breast acted as a pocket, like kangaroo. Then she take the children to her place and eat them

I never saw one, and I hardly believe it either, but it is within our Indonesian culture. So it caught my interest. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)
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post Oct 12 2005, 08:48 PM
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omg..tuyul is scary-sounding..
ahh...i shouldn't have read this....ketakutan skrg!
ku bakalan mimpi seram malam ini... (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bawling.gif)
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:32 AM
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Hey I found another ghost ;
- Leak
- Roro Kidul
- Suster Ngesot

wonder what are those?
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post Oct 13 2005, 01:38 AM
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I know the toyol story. Always thought of them as green baby-cum-alien mutant that sucks blood from the victim's big toe while they were sleeping. That's why at night I make sure the blanket is nicely tucked in on all sides! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)
Apart from rpoper money, toyol can also conjure fake ones. They do this when travelling from one kampung to another with their owner. Once the money changes hands eg to the village shopkeeper, it'll then turn to dried leaves.
The toyol is not that scary really, more like a pest or a thief rather than anything else.
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QUOTE (dekarabia @ Oct 13 2005, 12:32 AM)
Hey I found another ghost ;
- Leak
- Roro Kidul
- Suster Ngesot

wonder what are those?
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Leak
Is Balinese demon, originated as a witch that worship or disciple of "Calon Arang" or "Rangda". Calon Arang or Rangda is a demon witch that cause plague and any other disaster in ancient times. Originated in 10th century East Javanese Legend of King Airlangga who fight against evil witch, Calon Arang.

Leak usualy a female demon that practice black evil witchcraft. She can turn into anything she desire, any animals or any things.
Her popular sighthings is flying blue fire during night, and also flying head without body, with intestine and internal organ hanging under the head. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

It seeks victim to suck their blood and sometimes eat their internal organs. But Leak usually prefer infant or baby for her food. It's believe the baby is eaten as part of the witch black magic ritual to stay young and beautiful forever. Witch who practice Leak witchcraft usualy looks beautiful and young, but the'll look horrible when they turn to Leak.

Some source believe that sometimes Leak can turn into many things, including automobiles. Some sighthing tell that one day, a young girl, the nephew of Pedande (Balinese Priest) want to go home, but she finds there is two car. Both looks like hers. She get confused and ask her uncle, the Pedande. Than the Pedande hit those car with stone after chanting some magic spell. One of the car say "Ouch...!" Then there is hair growing out from the car. The car slowly turn into a hairy demon. Then the priest hit that demon. The demon runs away in fear. The Priest says that it is a demon that originaly a person who practicing Leak witchcraft. And she wanna kill the Pedande's nephew.

Roro Kidul
Some anthropologist believe it is originaly a natural female deity that rule the Java southern sea that may exist long before the arrival of Hindu and Islam to Java. Roro Kidul doesn't necesarily evil, some dukun or psychic even finds her generous and kind Queen. She rules all spirits, demons, deity in Java southern coast.

The bad side is, she's love to drawned people to southern sea, especially handsome young men. Then she will take their soul and keep them as her pet, her lover (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_redface.gif) , servant, or just as citizen of her underwater spirit kingdom.
The most peculiar thing is she love the green color, so if you visit southern beach of Java, locals may warn you not to wear green shirt, clothes, or bathing suit, cause Roro Kidul will take you and drawn you to her kingdom.

Rara Kidul is the spiritual eternal consort of Yogyakarta Sultans for generations. On the account and autobiography of late Sultan Hamengkubuwono IX, he mention that the spirit deity Queen Roro Kidul looks extremely beautiful during full moon and to the person she like. But she will turn old and rather ugly during new/dead moon and when she get angry. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Legend links her to a cast away Princess of Sundanese Hindu Pajajaran kingdom. She's the daughter of the queen, but a jealous concubine cast black magic spell on the queen and her daughter. The Queen and the Princess being struck with horrible skin desease caused by black magic. The king then cast away the queen and her daughter. Suffering the desease, the queen passed away in agony. Then the princess wandering around until she reach southern beach. Then a magic voice tell her to drawn in to the wave of southern sea. Then cured, and become the Queen of Southern Seas.


Suster Ngesot
I believe this has something to do with Jakarta urban legend, and bring to popularity by film Jelangkung. All I know about her is she is a nurse (suster) during Dutch East Indies, colonial era in Indonesia.

Some source says that she's being raped and killed in the old Dutch Hospital. One night the nurse confront an evil man. When she try to escape, she fell down the stairs and broke her legs. Then the evil man drag her to a "bangsal" (ward or "salle" in French), rape her and kill her. The unrest spirit of poor nurse still haunted the hospital. Some sighthings report the presence of female sighing and sounds in vain, then some people saw a nurse moving around the hall by dragging her body with her hands on floor ("Ngesot" in Indonesian language), because her legs is broken. Poor ghost (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_sad.gif)

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post Oct 13 2005, 11:09 AM
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Ghosts are really a huge part of the Indonesian culture. Many people see them all the time. Why do we see them and westerners don't. Are we imagining them? Hmmmmm.................? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:14 PM
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R we imagining them? maybe. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)
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maybe you only see it if you believe in them.... is it true that there are a lot of indos who practice black magic? what do they do??
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QUOTE (c2meang @ Oct 12 2005, 02:33 PM)
Sundal Bolong aka Sundel Bolong.
This link might help you get the idea of what it means. Also on one of the picture (the upside down picture of a girl) is pocong.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/uzumaki/reviews/sundelbolong.htm

Some more Indonesian ghost: gondoruwo, wewegombel
setan gundul/gundhul = a bald small kid that kills people
Tuyul/tuyhul = same as above (javanesse story)
Nyai Blorong = a woman with a human upperside body and a snake lowerside body.
Ki Blorong / Aki Blorong = same as above (a man)
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Hey, i have seen the sundal bolong movie, one of the best ghost movies ive seen. It is scary but funny at some scenes especially the thief who got killed by the teddy bear which got posessed by the sundal bolong.
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