Genghis khan VS Bruce lee, Who's better? Who's more famous? Options

[Centauri]

The Mongols never lose any battle during the lifetime of Genghis Khan- a military commander of genius proportion. Those expeditions to Japan and Southest Asia were manned by Yuan Chinese-those are not battle-harden troops from the heartland of Mongolia.

[KraterosHellas]

Mongols also spread the Asiatic bloodline throughout the world. Did you know that Hungary and modern-day Turkish culture came from Turkic people who are related to Mongolians? The modern day nations of Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan used to be Persian territory before the Turkic-Mongol expansion. Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan have more Persian blood but their cultures are now more Turkic.

Chinese Kung-Fu might be impressive but the Chinese never went out and expanded the influence of Asiatics. East Asia is overcrowded while white countries are sparsely populated.

that's only true for the commonwealth countries. europe is still pretty damn crowded. EU has about 500 million people in an area less than half the size of china.

[KraterosHellas]

Actually a lot of people still visit Bruce Lee's grave on a daily basis. The man was not just a fighter or actor. he wrote books and had great inspirational quotes and thoughts. A city in Yugoslavia erected the first bruce Lee statue in his honor because the people (both Serbs and Muslims) there remembered watching his films as kids and his sense of justice and peace. It is an arguement who left a more impact on history, but Bruce Lee's impact was totally positive and still felt today.

Mongols fight with arrows and horses, but Bruce Lee and Chinese kungfu fight with bare hands and feet.

mongols actually killed people and conquered nations at massive scale. and military conquests have more to do with leadership and logistical skill than mere martial fitness, at least for the commanders. that's why this comparison is really laughable.

[AsiaticGlory]

that's only true for the commonwealth countries. europe is still pretty damn crowded. EU has about 500 million people in an area less than half the size of china.

Well Europe's white population is having a birthrate that is lower than the death-rate. Then again all those Islamic and African immigrants never stop making babies.

Even then, white people at least have the option of living in a white majority area and still be able to live in a place that is not crowded (like a suburb).

I prefer to live in a place that had an Asiatic majority but I also prefer a suburb over an overcrowded metropolis with high-living costs. Big urban areas also tend to be areas of extreme hedonism such as excessive drug use, promiscuous behavior, and disgusting sexual fetishes. In addition, I am more likely to meet a belligerent drunk or a crazy hobo in a big city than in a suburb.

Unfortunately, the only Asiatic majority countries that are not overcrowded are Mongolia and Kazakhstan. I cannot speak a word of Mongolian or Kazakh so I cannot actually move there. Their cultures are also different from the East Asian Sinosphere culture that I am more used to.

Singapore seems ideal but only the rich can afford it.
Japan and South Korea don't like foreigners in their countries. Even overseas Japanese/Koreans have a tough time moving back.
According to my parents, Taiwan has very bad employment opportunities for young adults.

As a result, the only way for Asiatics to live amongst their own race in a peaceful suburb with reasonable living costs is to take more land. China, Japan, and Korea have all failed to acquire more land. Ming Dynasty in particular failed miserably. They had a great navy that made the Spanish armada look like nothing but they still refused to conquer more land.

Credit goes to the great Turkic-Mongol horsemen who expanded into Central Asia as well as the Vietnamese/Khmer for taking Southeast Asia.

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[Nanyue]

I wouldn't think Bruce Lee is the world greatest fighter but definitely the world most famous person of Asian descent. But his achievements is mainly influencing martial artists and martial art films around the world, while Genghis Khan created an empire that conquered half of the world.

This post has been edited by Nanyue: Feb 8 2012, 10:04 AM

[Romanticmining]

wtf?