S-E Asian immigrants face 'most discrimination' in Korea Options

[Rayzor]

ONE in four South-east Asians living in South Korea has experienced discrimination, more than triple the corresponding figure for foreigners from OECD countries, according to a poll released on Tuesday.

According to the survey conducted by the Seoul Development Institute (SDI) on 333 foreign nationals living in the capital, 25.9 per cent of South-east Asian immigrants have faced discrimination, compared to 8.2 per cent of foreigners from OECD nations, including the US, Japan and countries in Europe.

Twenty per cent of immigrants from North-east Asian nations, such as China and Taiwan, were also treated differently, the survey said.

Out of the total respondents, 32.7 per cent have been treated with discrimination during the job search or while earning money, followed by 7.2 per cent in using public administration services and 6.9 per cent in finding housing here.

People from OECD nations said they have faced the most discrimination when using financial services, while South-east Asian immigrants picked housing and North-east Asians chose medical service, the survey said. Asked whether they feel a sense of attachment to Seoul, 29.7 per cent agreed somewhat, while 21.9 per cent disagreed somewhat and 13.8 per cent totally disagreed, it noted.

More than 250,000 expatriates from 166 nations were living in Seoul, with 66.8 per cent ethnic Chinese, 10.3 per cent Chinese and 5.3 per cent Americans, according to Justice Ministry data from 2009. -- KOREA HERALD/ANN

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/A...ory_625391.html
http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail...=20110118000426

This post has been edited by Rayzor: Jan 22 2011, 11:42 AM

[KraterosHellas]

racism is not cool. especially to ur fellow asian brothers.

[Bijou]

But Whites are treated nicely in Korea.

[BurdenOfAges]

I imagine it's a combination of socioeconomic status and perceptions of socioeconomic status (based on stereotyping), rather than racism outright, though the latter is not impossible. Sort of ironic, also, given the number of Southeast Asian brides entering Korea in recent years.

[zoopiter]

Twenty per cent of immigrants from North-east Asian nations, such as China and Taiwan, were also treated differently, the survey said.

bad mistake from straits time.
taiwan had move upwards to become in northeast asia?

... 66.8 per cent ethnic Chinese, 10.3 per cent Chinese ....

confusing study.

[CheolSu]

Koreans are very materialistic in the way they rank other nations. The poorer your country, the less they consider you worthy of attention.

[nanalan]

What about North Koreans? Are they very materialistic too?

[foi2]

I imagine it's a combination of socioeconomic status and perceptions of socioeconomic status (based on stereotyping), rather than racism outright, though the latter is not impossible. Sort of ironic, also, given the number of Southeast Asian brides entering Korea in recent years.

yah, that's generally the way it works. It's more about the wealth, or perception of wealth, than actual racism.

What about North Koreans? Are they very materialistic too?

I dunno, I'd imagine that if they were included, North Koreans would get the most discrimination. I'm pretty sure more than a quarter of the South Korean population hates North Koreans, especially if they can tell they're from North Korea by the words they use. I think they'd get threatened with outright violence if they stated they supported the North Korean regime in Seoul.

[PingLing]

Koreans are very materialistic in the way they rank other nations. The poorer your country, the less they consider you worthy of attention.

Considering the individual is probably more important. Someone who look good and got a high degree always get better treatment. In this case origin doesn't matter.

[ClassicalMusic]

But Whites are treated nicely in Korea.

Whites are Korean and Japanese masters. Both country need to end white mentality
but fear backlash.

[WideAwake]

Whites are Korean and Japanese masters. Both country need to end white mentality
but fear backlash.

Whites get treated MUCH better in SE Asian countries, so. . .

[ocrapdm]

But Whites are treated nicely in Korea.

When America finally falls, they'll treat Whites badly, too.

[KraterosHellas]

taiwan had move upwards to become in northeast asia?

geographically taiwan is in the tropics but genetically they are han chinese who are north-east asians.

[KraterosHellas]

When America finally falls, they'll treat Whites badly, too.

what about europeans?

[Captain Corea]

Whites are Korean and Japanese masters. Both country need to end white mentality
but fear backlash.

How do you figure?

I'd love to hear SPECIFIC examples about how this plays out in the eveyday life of a Korean (IN Korea).

[zoopiter]

geographically taiwan is in the tropics but genetically they are han chinese who are north-east asians.

there is no but. it is pretty obvious about geography.

besides, the genetics of most taiwanese are similar to vietnamese and chinese in southern PRC, not northeast asia. that is a side point, and has got nothing to do with the error of straits time.

[foi2]

How do you figure?

I'd love to hear SPECIFIC examples about how this plays out in the eveyday life of a Korean (IN Korea).

They can't provide specific examples, because there is none.

It's funny how Asian nationalists insult each other through their treatment of white people.

"You treat white people better!" "no, YOU treat white people better!"

Guys. Grow up. White people experience discrimination in Asia too. People already actively avoid sitting next to white people on the Trains, is Avoiding contact somehow "treating people better"? Many people are just uncomfortable associating with white people in Asia. That's a fact, though they won't say it to your face. There are a few who don't mind talking and would enjoy the opportunity to practice their English skills too. It goes both ways.

Anyhow, pretty sure the article is wrong, because like 80% of the "Chinese" in Korea are actually ethnically Koreans, not Ethnic Chinese. Also, how can 32.7% of the immigrants receive job discrimination, when it says that the group most discriminated against is the SE Asians at 25.9%? It's mathematically impossible for the HIGH of the highest dataset to be lower than the AVERAGE of the whole group.

Suspect reporting again. Much like most of the reporting that comes out of the Chinese speaking regions. Whats with the media people in these regions anyway (Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan)? Don't you guys ever check your sources? Or like, check your news for LOGICAL errors?

[KraterosHellos]

how can 32.7% of the immigrants receive job discrimination, when it says that the group most discriminated against is the SE Asians at 25.9%? It's mathematically impossible for the HIGH of the highest dataset to be lower than the AVERAGE of the whole group.

25.9% of Southeast Asians face discrimination, while 74.1% of them do not. 32.7% of all respondents (everyone who is non-Korean, such as Whites, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Blacks, Southeast Asians etc) have faced discrimination.

I dunno, it makes sense to me o_o

Suspect reporting again. Much like most of the reporting that comes out of the Chinese speaking regions. Whats with the media people in these regions anyway (Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan)? Don't you guys ever check your sources? Or like, check your news for LOGICAL errors?

so the journalist/writer who wrote this article is a Chinese person fro Singapore, Hong Kong, or Taiwan?

This post has been edited by KraterosHellos: Jan 22 2011, 11:45 AM

[Minq]

Actually, whites are treated like dirt by some whether it's racial slurs on the street, hate mail or outright stalking. But of course, as always, it's important not to generalise.

[foi2]

25.9% of Southeast Asians face discrimination, while 74.1% of them do not. 32.7% of all respondents (everyone who is non-Korean, such as Whites, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Blacks, Southeast Asians etc) have faced discrimination.

I dunno, it makes sense to me o_o

um. But the article implies that SE Asians are the group that experiences the most discrimination. If the group that experiences the MOST discrimination is at 25.9%, how can the OVERALL group experience discrimination at 32.7%?

Let me put it in a simple scenario. It's like this: 1) Bob has 25 dollars, John has 20 dollars, Paul has 8 dollars. 2) On average, Each person has 32 dollars. Statements #1 and #2 are obviously contradictory and cannot both be true. Yet this is the exact kind of logic that the article employs.

Furthermore, even if you assume that the SE asians are NOT the group that experiences the most discrimination at 25%, then what's left over? Blacks? Indians? I doubt those groups are in Korea in significant enough amounts to matter to the survey. There is an obvious logic error in the article.

Also, again. Most 'Chinese' in Korea are Ethnic Koreans, not Ethnic Chinese. They obviously got that one wrong when they said Ethnic Chinese.

so the journalist/writer who wrote this article is a Chinese person fro Singapore, Hong Kong, or Taiwan?

The original article quoted was from the Strait Times, a Singapore publication. But I think the OP added the source and looks like it was sourced from the Korean Herald. So I guess Korean news got it wrong.

This post has been edited by foi2: Jan 22 2011, 01:50 PM