Future of Cambodia Miltary Options

[Khmer_Army]

I have read some of what you guys posted on this site and I was very disappointed of what some you guys said. Most of people out there have no clue what is going on in Cambodia today. Cambodia has no miltary capiltabies because most of the leaders are courrpted and traitors. And most of all, most of them are not even Cambodian. They are either Vietnamese or Chinese. It is threaten that most Cambodian dont see the problem of our Cambodian problem. How can you have run a country without military or air defense? It does not matter how good your economy is or how much money you have. Who will protect you or your family when you are sleep and live your daily life? It is the police, miltary and etc who put their lives for you. Without them how can you live peaceful life? Surely in Cambodia only the strong will survive. Today, Cambodia has no miltary strengths or air defense. All their equipments are all obselete. Eversince the Khmer Rouge ended, Cambodia has not bought any new tank, weapons or air defense to defense Cambodia from their enemies. The problem with Cambodia is courrpted and traitor. U can not have a stable country if its own people are only care about money and benefit themselves. It does not how powerful its country are or many miltary strengths they have. Cambodia definitely needs more soldiers and weapons. Many soldiers who fought and died for our freedom, we should ever never forget that. They fought for us, we should always gratateful. Today, i see many Khmer tend to forget who fought and died for them. They only care about money and what benefit them. They dont care about Cambodia future as a country of it own. Most of Cambodian always depend on the Vietnamese to save them again. Cambodian never ever learn or see further ahead. Who keep taking Khmer land today? it is the Vietnamese and Thailand. Why dont Cambodian see that is the problem? Why they keep believe the Vietnamese who do good for Khmer people? They murder Khmer people and etc.. I hope you Khmer will think seriously and wisely about the future of Cambodia. We are the young generation, we must not make the same mistake as elder generation. We must be wise, cautious we must watch our steps before we walk forthward or backward. Our enemies are all surrounded us. We must know who is our friends and who is our enemy. Cambodian people must know quickly before keep contine killing our people

[japhnom]

We are the young generation, we must not make the same mistake as elder generation.

the only mistake the elder genaration did was stck with the past. new generation should stop talking about $hit or new generation will make Cambodia look bad.

End.

[Khmer_Army]

the only mistake the elder genaration did was stck with the past. new generation should stop talking about $hit or new generation will make Cambodia look bad.

End.

Sometimes our past can help us see further into the future. It is also made see things around us before make another steps. You are just useless like many other Cambodian u live in USA or elsewhere. You forget who fought and died for you and your family freedom.

This post has been edited by Khmer_Army: Nov 29 2006, 06:37 PM

[japhnom]

Sometimes our past can help us see further into the future. It is also made see things around us before make another steps. You are just useless like many other Cambodian u live in USA or elsewhere. You forget who fought and died for you and your family freedom.

but you also forgot that Cambodia's neighbor helped Khmer many times too especially Thailand and Vietnam, but no one knows about this of course

you are useless, we dont need this this kind of $hit anyone, because we dont talk $hit like that anymore @$$hole

[Mugen]

^ dude you are totally wrong, I dare you to really try and see what hes talking about. If you think that Vietnam saved our asses during the Khmer Rouge than you are seriously fu-king wrong because they gave birth to the Khmer Rouge. Study your history or if you dont know any khmer history than shut up.

[japhnom]

^ dude you are totally wrong, I dare you to really try and see what hes talking about. If you think that Vietnam saved our asses during the Khmer Rouge than you are seriously fu-king wrong because they gave birth to the Khmer Rouge. Study your history or if you dont know any khmer history than shut up.

you shut up!

[crew.]

^if you can't handle the heat, then leave the damn kitchen!

[Jez_C]

This topic is being moved to 'Khmer Serious Chat'.

On a side note, keep this topic civil guys.

[Goombaking209]

^ dude you are totally wrong, I dare you to really try and see what hes talking about. If you think that Vietnam saved our asses during the Khmer Rouge than you are seriously fu-king wrong because they gave birth to the Khmer Rouge. Study your history or if you dont know any khmer history than shut up.

that's totally backwards from whats been told .. please enlighten me on this.

btw, even if the vietnamese gave birth to khmer rouge, 'they did stop it' and almost broke thier economy in doing so ... no words of thanks needed, but in the end everyone lost something.

[Mugen]

I'll enlighten you...go check out The Tradgedy of Cambodia by David Chandler....hmmm Check out a book called the History of Cambodia by Henry Kamm. Enlighten yourself....

[Goombaking209]

western scholars? .. hmmm........

[DenstarXXX]

I read many books on this topic, I also spoked to a lot of elders living in Cambodia, and our people created the Khmer Rouge no one else. Vietnam did have a role, as an kr ally.

[lemongrass]

Dear Mr. Khmer Soldier,
Are you really Khmer Soldier or just a name you give yourself?
I feel your pain about Srok Kmer, but there so many things that must be done before it can get better. The problem of Cambodia is in the leadership itself; it seems that it lacked maturity on all levels. It seems that the public servants are not serving the public but are there to steal from the people. The culture of corruption have permeated from the top on down, it even reached school children. They all know what corruption is all about eventhough they are not old enough to commited themselves.

[Mugen]

Yeah our people created the KR....but the doctrine even though it was Marxist Leninst yadda yadda yadda...the arms and tactics were Vietnamese. The advisors, even veteran soldiers trained the KR....with the Viet Cong there would be no Khmer Rouge. If you know that Vietnam was a kR ally, than what was their master plan in Indochina besides Independence????? The Vietcong gave a share of the weapons coming in from China to the Khmer Rouge. Although China and Russia supplied these weapons, it was Vietnam who armed the Khmer Rouge heck you can say it was Vietnam's master plan that Cambodia would fall to those KR communist bastards. They were pulling the strings of everything.....

This post has been edited by Mugen: Nov 30 2006, 06:50 PM

[DenstarXXX]

Actually china had more of an influence on the khmer rouge then the vietcong. In the begining kr and VC was working side by side under china. Pol Pot don't need Ho Chi Mihn to start khmer rouge,, he got Mao Zidong. I agree with you on this point; Vietcong did help the khmer rouge to form with their own agenda in mind, but it was the khmer rouge who ask for help. If someone was to be blame for the creation of the khmer rouge, Nixon and Kissinger should be on top of that list.

This post has been edited by DenstarXXX: Nov 30 2006, 07:44 PM

[Mugen]

Every big nation screwed us over I guess, not just Vietnam. Even though the U.S. was fighting the Viet Cong insurgency in Cambodia with mass carpet bombings ( an invasion also against international law) they also bombed Khmer civilians. That hypothetically led to increase support for the KR. With the U.S. pull out of Vietnam as KR factions splitted, the U.S. and China armed the KR against Vietnam. Yeah Khmers did lead to the rise of the KR......our weakness is that we like to kill each other rather than our enemies. We should follow no nation and act UNITED.


Like Lincoln's quote, United we stand, Divided we fall


Good discussion DenstarXXX, I only deduce from my knowledge, i never listen to what others say.

[vietguy1]

You guys are a bunch of $hitty! Vietnam saved your @$$ and now you come back and bite it. If Vietnam didn't overthrown the khmer Rouge, then 99% of Cambodian would be dead by now, and there's no more Cambodia on the face of this planet. In otherwords, without Vietnam you guys would exist until today.

[lemongrass]

You guys are a bunch of $hitty! Vietnam saved your @$$ and now you come back and bite it. If Vietnam didn't overthrown the khmer Rouge, then 99% of Cambodian would be dead by now, and there's no more Cambodia on the face of this planet. In otherwords, without Vietnam you guys would exist until today.

Flame bait. You guys are always good at this kind of gesture.

[Mugen]

lol... he took little time to read what we were discussing...go SCREW OFF

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

I have read some of what you guys posted on this site and I was very disappointed of what some you guys said. Most of people out there have no clue what is going on in Cambodia today. Cambodia has no miltary capiltabies because most of the leaders are courrpted and traitors. And most of all, most of them are not even Cambodian. They are either Vietnamese or Chinese. It is threaten that most Cambodian dont see the problem of our Cambodian problem. How can you have run a country without military or air defense? It does not matter how good your economy is or how much money you have. Who will protect you or your family when you are sleep and live your daily life? It is the police, miltary and etc who put their lives for you. Without them how can you live peaceful life? Surely in Cambodia only the strong will survive. Today, Cambodia has no miltary strengths or air defense. All their equipments are all obselete. Eversince the Khmer Rouge ended, Cambodia has not bought any new tank, weapons or air defense to defense Cambodia from their enemies. The problem with Cambodia is courrpted and traitor. U can not have a stable country if its own people are only care about money and benefit themselves. It does not how powerful its country are or many miltary strengths they have. Cambodia definitely needs more soldiers and weapons. Many soldiers who fought and died for our freedom, we should ever never forget that. They fought for us, we should always gratateful. Today, i see many Khmer tend to forget who fought and died for them. They only care about money and what benefit them. They dont care about Cambodia future as a country of it own. Most of Cambodian always depend on the Vietnamese to save them again. Cambodian never ever learn or see further ahead. Who keep taking Khmer land today? it is the Vietnamese and Thailand. Why dont Cambodian see that is the problem? Why they keep believe the Vietnamese who do good for Khmer people? They murder Khmer people and etc.. I hope you Khmer will think seriously and wisely about the future of Cambodia. We are the young generation, we must not make the same mistake as elder generation. We must be wise, cautious we must watch our steps before we walk forthward or backward. Our enemies are all surrounded us. We must know who is our friends and who is our enemy. Cambodian people must know quickly before keep contine killing our people

Khmer army I always respect soldiers who lost thier life for other to enjoy. I know what Khmer soldiers are very determind fighters they fought without pay just for the sake of saving Cambodian from invader while corrupted leaders enjoy drinking and kick back in Bangkok. Some new gneration does not appreciated what ever has happen at all and always ignored facts and doesnt even show sympathy toward those who never came back.

The generals of the Cambodian army are made of viet and chinese who only know how take money while they use uneducated Khmer as soldiers to to oppress the very own people. And they know what soldiers has no brians of thier own that why they serve them so well.

Even today stupid Khmer out there think viet and thai save them from killing but never remember those who lost thier love one. This is why I call the new Khmer generation as the "DUMP GENERATION", they have no though of thier own and full of propagandas bull-s-h-i-t just coming out from thier mouth. They never care to learn new thing or even try at best. No one remember that in WORLD WAR I, that some 50,000 Khmer soldiers had lost thier lives when fought for France with the German and none came back and let not forget that in WORLD WAR II where only a few hand came back but decide to stay in France. Did those kids ever remember that and have any of them ever gave respect, I guest not because they are ignorance and stupid to realize it.

Lets not forget the Chinese they also want Cambodi for themself too, they open one hand for support while the other killing it. Khmer should realize that the population of native Khmer are slowly dying and the new breed would be Chinese and viet and please prove me wrong. Chinese are nothing but business people because they always think that if one die they can make another one just like that.

The only respect hun sen can say is he has save Cambodia from genocide while he forgot that he was a dump @$$ being used by the viet. hun sen is dump smart as i put it. For the good part of it hun sen regime would like to disarm all opposition arm force as claim for peace so he can kill and control what they like.