N. Korea paid Pakistan for nuclear weapons tech Options

[Captain Corea]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/07...tan-nkorea.html

N. Korea paid Pakistan for nuclear weapons tech

The founder of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program claims that in the late 1990s North Korean officials paid kickbacks to senior Pakistani military figures in exchange for critical weapons technology.

Abdul Qadeer Khan has given a United States-based expert documents that appear to show North Korea's government paid more than $3.5 million to two Pakistani military officials as part of the deal, the expert told The Associated Press Wednesday.

To back up his claim, Khan released what he said was a copy of a North Korean official's 1998 letter to him, written in English, that purports to describe the secret deal.

Khan gave the documents to Simon Henderson of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, an authority on Pakistan's weapons program. He did so because he has been accused by his government of running a covert nuclear smuggling operation without official knowledge or consent.

"He gave it to me because he regarded it as showing that the story, the perception that he had been a rogue operator was false," Henderson said.

The letter, along with a statement by Khan describing the deal, suggests that at least some top-level Pakistani military officials knew early on about some of Khan's extensive sale of nuclear weapons technology to other countries, including North Korea, Iran and Libya.

Makes me less enthusiastic about giving money to the North.

[Jarhier]

So? The US's been giving Billions to Pakistan for years.

This post has been edited by Jarhier: Jul 8 2011, 12:28 AM

[Captain Corea]

So?

So don't ask for my tax dollars to support a regime that obviously chooses to spend its funds on something other than food for its ppl.

[KraterosHellas]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/07...tan-nkorea.html





Makes me less enthusiastic about giving money to the North.

and yet u conveniently ignore the deals the US made with north korea back in clinton admiinistration

[Jarhier]

So don't ask for my tax dollars to support a regime that obviously chooses to spend its funds on something other than food for its ppl.

That's very funny because the article says specifically in 1990s. Were you in Korea paying taxes then? Or do you have a proof that NK is still funding Pakistan in 2011?

[Captain Corea]

That's very funny because the article says specifically in 1990s. Were you in Korea paying taxes then? Or do you have a proof that NK is still funding Pakistan in 2011?

Nope, wasn't here then. But the DPRK still seems to like to ask for funding/food... when they have a military first policy. A current military first policy.

[KraterosHellas]

Nope, wasn't here then. But the DPRK still seems to like to ask for funding/food... when they have a military first policy. A current military first policy.

before u ask those questions u have to first ask urself WHY does NK have military-first policy? WHY is NK poor? do u think they are this way by their own free will?

but of course u can totally ignore these issues if answering them would disrupt ur agenda here. by all means, continue

[Captain Corea]

before u ask those questions u have to first ask urself WHY does NK have military-first policy? WHY is NK poor? do u think they are this way by their own free will?

but of course u can totally ignore these issues if answering them would disrupt ur agenda here. by all means, continue

I've answered them many times... they choose a horrible economic and political model.

I notice how you've yet to answer my previous questions about sanctions (which I'm sure you'll try to bring up here) - when has the West ever restricted food purchases and trade for the DPRK?

Heck, you can even answer me this - who are the biggest aid donors to the DPRK?

Or do those answers disrupt your agenda?

This post has been edited by Captain Corea: Jul 8 2011, 04:07 AM

[Captain Corea]

And article from the Korean press on it...

N.Korea 'Bribed Pakistan Brass with $3.5 Million for Nuke Tech'

[KraterosHellas]

I've answered them many times... they choose a horrible economic and political model.

I notice how you've yet to answer my previous questions about sanctions (which I'm sure you'll try to bring up here) - when has the West ever restricted food purchases and trade for the DPRK?

Heck, you can even answer me this - who are the biggest aid donors to the DPRK?

Or do those answers disrupt your agenda?

those questions are IRRELEVANT. first u have to answer the questions i posed earlier. and no, u haven't answered those questions ever.

WHY does NK have military first policy?
because of heavy US military presence in south korea and japan.

WHY is NK poor?
because of the sanctions imposed by the US


it's simple as that. there's no if's or but's.

[Captain Corea]

WHY does NK have military first policy?
because of heavy US military presence in south korea and japan.

Nope. It's because if they didn't, the leadership would have been overthrown.

WHY is NK poor?
because of the sanctions imposed by the US

Sanctions are on arms sales and such. Nothing is stopping North Korea from buying food.

it's simple as that. there's no if's or but's.

Agreed. It is simple. You're just wrong on your assertions.

[fireplant]

So don't ask for my tax dollars to support a regime that obviously chooses to spend its funds on something other than food for its ppl.

Then you wouldn't support your money to be used on bombs to be dropped on Palestinians?

The main reason NK became poor was because the west fu-ked over the communist camp and destroyed their trading system. The secondary reason is NK could not reform itself to join a hyper-competitive global economy. But same goes for Detroit and the 50% of US manufacturing that has disappeared (in case Americans are getting ready to gloat on that).

This post has been edited by fireplant: Jul 8 2011, 11:40 AM

[devils666]

Caption Corea is trolling again. He must have a dozen accounts.

Does he have a job? Doesn't he have a family? Does he get paid to troll? At least most people on AF are on summer vacation. Captian Corea has no excuse.

[Hoodie]

No duh, N. Korea is dirt poor, how can it ever afford a nuclear program without outside foreign assistance?

This post has been edited by Hoodie: Jul 8 2011, 10:27 PM

[Captain Corea]

Then you wouldn't support your money to be used on bombs to be dropped on Palestinians?

No. I wouldn't. Not sure how that is related to k-chat though.

The main reason NK became poor was because the west fu-ked over the communist camp and destroyed their trading system. The secondary reason is NK could not reform itself to join a hyper-competitive global economy. But same goes for Detroit and the 50% of US manufacturing that has disappeared (in case Americans are getting ready to gloat on that).

So you blame the west for the poor conditions in the DPRK? Have you ever been to or talked with someone from there?

[fireplant]

No. I wouldn't. Not sure how that is related to k-chat though.



So you blame the west for the poor conditions in the DPRK? Have you ever been to or talked with someone from there?

Could you just NOT RESPOND when you DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE?

[KraterosHellas]

Nope. It's because if they didn't, the leadership would have been overthrown.

oh so it has nothing to do with the fact that the US maintains tens of thousands of troops in south korea and regularly conducts mock-invasion exercises near the border and deliberately frames incidents to antagonize NK? hmmm interesting

Sanctions are on arms sales and such. Nothing is stopping North Korea from buying food.

they are ECONOMIC sanctions. that means that they can't trade to make money to buy food. u do understand that it's money that buys food right?

Agreed. It is simple. You're just wrong on your assertions.

it's simple for me and the rest of us here. but not for u, apparently

[Captain Corea]

Could you just NOT RESPOND when you DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE?

I responded. Mind showing me how Palestine is on topic?

oh so it has nothing to do with the fact that the US maintains tens of thousands of troops in south korea and regularly conducts mock-invasion exercises near the border and deliberately frames incidents to antagonize NK? hmmm interesting



they are ECONOMIC sanctions. that means that they can't trade to make money to buy food. u do understand that it's money that buys food right?



it's simple for me and the rest of us here. but not for u, apparently

Mind showing me ANYWHERE that says the DPRK cannot trade? The UN sanctions are focused on the trade of arms and such.

[KraterosHellas]

Mind showing me ANYWHERE that says the DPRK cannot trade? The UN sanctions are focused on the trade of arms and such.

arms trade is not trade?? LOL hahaha ok i get it. so anything besides arms sale is trade according to ur definition. this is epic

[Captain Corea]

arms trade is not trade?? LOL hahaha ok i get it. so anything besides arms sale is trade according to ur definition. this is epic

Epic how? That certain countries don't want to purchase arms from the enemy? Does that in any way surprise you?