White Fetish For Asians Driven By Pedophelia |
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White Fetish For Asians Driven By Pedophelia |
Nov 19 2011, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE Tobias Hubinette is an adopted Korean living in Sweden.
In July 2005 ”Times Higher Education” posted the information about academic scandal that arose in Stockholm University. Tobias Hübinette – the doctoral student from Department of Oriental Languages – was barred from a conference because of his controversial research on interracial marriages and adoption. Due to the multiple complaints received by university, its legal representatives had to investigate Hübinette’s works in order to determine whether they fall under the category of reverse racism. So, what exactly sparked the controversy? To make the point, the aforementioned article quoted a sentence from Hübinette’s paper: “what drives (Western man’s) fetishism with Asian women is quite simply pedophile tendencies” After reading it, I naturally became very curious and decided to find the research itself. Unfortunately, the long searches haven’t yielded any result. Moreover, although there were tens different blogs and forums that quoted exactly the same sentence in their posts, neither of them provided a link to the source. So, I personally contacted Dr. Tobias Hübinette through his site and asked him to send me the copy of his paper which he kindly did. The only problem was that the paper was in Swedish and hasn’t been translated to English (which actually explains why the multiple sites that discussed Hübinette’s work never linked to it). However, the article itself was so interesting that in order to share it with my readers I decided to translate it with the help of Google Translator. Actually, the draft version of translation has been reviewed and corrected by Dr. Hübinette himself – so I can rest assured that even if the English version is not the precise translation, its original meaning has been preserved. Anyway, those of you who know Swedish language and want to read the original paper can follow this link. ————————————————————————– Yellow Fever, is it a multicultural symbol or a pedophilic fetish? The white man’s approach to Asians has evolved into a mixture of exotisation, sexualization and pedophilic fetishism. Unlike Asian feminists in the U.S., Swedes have been silent over the phenomenon of “yellow fever” – the fact that some white Western men have a very specific attraction to yellow East and Southeast Asian women, manifested in everything from marriage and relationships to prostitution and trafficking. It’s time to break the silence. Exotisation (the term commonly used when sexuality and ethnicity intersect) has historically occurred in a colonial context. It is obvious, however, that the colonial images about the sexuality of others have not disappeared after decolonization. On the contrary, many of them have been revived in modern times when white Westerners are forced to live together with their former colonial subjects in their own countries. I agree with bell hooks who in her essay “Eating the Other” described why in recent times non-Western cultures are admired and coveted by white Westerners rather than despised and eradicated as under imperialism. Hooks linked it to a desire of cultural difference and colonial nostalgia. This multiculturalism exploded towards the end of the last century in the context of globalization and is expressed in the consumption of the Other that takes place both in popular culture and public life. […] In the post-colonial era white Westerners turned to ethnic niches where they can choose potential partners among their former colonial subjects. Hooks exemplifies it with an anecdote about a group of young white men discussing “ethnic experiences”. This colonial attitude of eating the Other manifested in relationships, continues hooks, is in fact the imperialist superiority disguised as multiculturalism – since the white partner is almost always the active one having the priority to choose in the relationship. The first relations between white Western men and yellow East and Southeast Asian women have likely occurred in 1500s when Portuguese and Spanish, and later also the Dutch, French and British empires landed in the region. According to Ann Laura Stoler such relationships in Asian colonies during the Classical Colonial Period were encouraged as a means of ensuring the permanent European presence, particularly in the Dutch and Portuguese settlements. This situation, however, changed during the 1800s as the European empires considerably consolidated [their presence] through the increased emigration of European women to the colonies. Racial segregation was applied more and more often, and by the end of 1800s even concubinage became socially stigmatized in all European colonies in East and Southeast Asia. Around the turn of 20th century the superiority of the white race and Western culture was put into doubt. European dominance was particularly challenged in East Asia […] The Chinese Boxer Rebellion with its anti-Western rhetoric, military victory of Japan over Russia and the rising anti-colonial struggle in Southeast Asia sent shock waves throughout the Western world and laid the foundation for the fear of the “yellow peril“. Basically, however, the “yellow peril” was nothing more but a modern version of the ancient European fear of the “Orient’s hordes”. The new awareness of the population numbers in East and Southeast Asia of the late 1800s created the nightmare visions that the West would be flooded with yellow people masses, and combined with the Asian work ethic it was considered as a matter of a not too distant future when the yellow race [would celebrate] victory over the whites. […] As an example, take the evil Chinese Fu Manchu, the subject of popular novels, who poisoned the drinking water in London. While at the turn of the last century the relationships [with Asians] were officially condemned and the “yellow peril” was seen as a real threat, there was a subculture of forbidden lust and erotic fantasies both in straight and gay versions. The travelogue of Pierre Lotis “Madame Chrysantheme” (1887) and the legendary opera of Giacomo Puccini “Madame Butterfly” (1904) are two stories describing the bonds between A male colonizer and a female native, while the scholar Srilata Ravi has depicted the homosexual relationships between male French colonists and Southeast Asian men […] After World War II and during the Cold War, European empires in East and Southeast Asia were replaced by the massive American military presence. Hundreds of thousands of young American soldiers were stationed in Japan, Korea, the Phillipines, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Thailand and Vietnam. It is precisely in this historic moment that the “yellow peril” and the “yellow fever” propelled the prostitution industry and gave the rise to today’s sex tourism, while the legislative reforms [back home] allowed the mass exodus of East and Southeast Asian women married to American men. Film studies scholar ,Gina Marchetti has convincingly shown that the romantic depictions of the link between the East and the West in the popular culture have further feminized the Asia’s oriental image, masking the U.S. brutal imperialism under romantic motives. The Asian migration and presence in the U.S. have since been heavily influenced by this history of relations between whites and yellows. Although the migration of mainly East Asian male “coolies” had started at the end of the 1800s, it was only in connection with the migration of nearly a quarter of a million “military wives” and their relatives during the post-war period that a major Asian-American minority developed in the country. Today, 10 million East and Southeast Asians represent barely 5% of the U.S population. At the same time this small minority has the highest proportion in interracial relationships in the U.S. and this fact becomes even more remarkable as it almost exclusively refers to the Asian women, of whom according to the 2000 U.S. Census, depending on nationality between one-third and half of any age cohort is expected to choose white men as a partner. On the other hand, the proportion of Asian men who marry white women is almost negligible, which means that every Asian-American generation ends in a variety of relationships among women and a variety of bachelors [among men], some of whom choose to “pick up” a woman from the country of origin. This demographic imbalance has led to deep and almost irreconcilable divisions. Asian women married to white men claim that they are more polite (less “collectivist” and “patriarchal”), manly (less “geeky” and “silly”), stylish (physically bigger and “better looking”) and wealthier (richer and more “stable”) than Asian men, and that the latter cannot claim any right to “their” women. The sexualisation of Asian women and the equivalent desexualisation of Asian men is [also] reflected in the American popular culture […] A parallel to this is also the African-American minority, where a disproportionate share of men chooses to enter relationships with white women, while many of the women are left without a partner. In today’s Sweden, the view of [inter-racial] relations is influenced by the history of European colonialism and American imperialism, although the country hasn’t had [many] colonies and was officially neutral during the Cold War. In the postcolonial Sweden with its imposed multiculturalism, relationships between white Western men and yellow East and Southeast Asian women are viewed as almost natural and normal […] In fact, the “yellow fever” seems to have a special representation in Northern Europe in general, and Sweden specifically – as according to SCB’s estimation about 15,000 East and Southeast Asian women are married to Swedish men, while the opposite barely exists. Even the adopted men from East and Southeast Asia have in today’s Sweden obvious difficulties in finding (Swedish) female partners. Here are three examples of Swedish “yellow fever”. Internet ads for Jewel De’Nyle pornographic movie “Asian Babes” (2002), the “Man seeking woman” personal ads in the newspapers from the 10/10 in 2003, and Harry Stevens travelogue “Traveling with Mr. M” (2003). Jewel De’Nyle “Asian Babes” belongs to the pornographic genre known as “Asian Girls“. An extreme example of this genre is “Sex: The Annabel Chong Story” [documentary film] by Gough Lewis (1999) which was shown at the Stockholm International Film Festival. In it a 22-year-old Asian-American woman has sex with 251 white men and there also appears an Asian-American man – however, with the sole task of “serving” in this “world record” by cleaning up afterwards. Internet texts contained the following advertisement of the movie: “It’s a delight for eye to see these timid, slim and incredibly sexy little pieces […] in a way that only Oriental can. Come and enjoy the pleasure of these young girls, always smiling dolls with cute and hot bodies.” The Swedish [interracial] personal ads almost without exception go under the title “Man seeking woman” where Swedish men look for Asian women, while again the opposite trend hardly ever occurs. There is a whole host of organized agencies and virtual meeting places for this target group on the Internet, such as “Thai contact” and “Thai women” where they can find marriage partners, get help with legal advice and practical tips and privately discuss between themselves what it’s like being married to an Asian woman. In a personal ad in the newspaper Expressen from 10/10 in 2003 I found the following text: “Girl in 20-30s from Phillipines, Thailand or the like who lives in Sweden is wanted by a youthful 45-year-old man, 176 cm.” Finally, “Traveling with Mr. M” by Harry Stevens (2003) is a true guide to the women of different nationalities in East and Southeast Asia written for Western men who travel around or live in the region. Another bestseller of this genre is “Women of the Orient: Intimate Profiles of the World’s Most Feminine Women” by Boye Lafayette De Mente which was republished in many editions. In “Traveling with Mr. M” two Swedes visit five different East and Southeast Asian countries to gain “experience” which they then share: “Have you done it with any Vietnamese yet?” asked Maud. “Oh my God, we arrived only yesterday… Is there anything that attracts you, then?” asked Lisen. “Yesterday morning we’ve seen hundreds of temptations in white robes on the bike” said Mr. M. “You are mean. School girls – isn’t it perverse?” exclaimed Maud. “I think uniforms are chaste. You should have seen those Japanese” I say “By uniforms I don’t mean, of course, to do it with children!” “The Vietnamese wear school uniforms until the age of nineteen’ defended us Mr. M. What is particularly evident in all three text extracts in addition to the usual Asian orientalism standing for femininity, is that the Asian woman is expected to be young [accompanying] a Western man who is older, or even middle-aged. There is thus no coincidence that this type of relationship almost always follows the pattern “yellow girls – white elder men” in the same way as the mentioned counterpart “black boys – white elder women”. The Asian woman is not only feminized but also infantilized, and thus converted by the Western men to a pedophilic fetish – that is, an object that can be worshipped, and provide the satisfaction of repressed desires. What drives this fetishization of Asian women is nothing more than displaced pedophilic disposition that can be perceived as socially acceptable in an “anti-racist” relationship, and [even] praised for its multiculturalism. In such a way Swedish men having the “yellow fever” [not only] embrace the long Western tradition of colonial supremacy and walk in the steps of European colonists and American soldiers, but they are even rewarded for their pedophilic fetishism as being anti-racists. http://whitewatch.info/2011/11/13/asian-re...veyResultsChart |
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Nov 19 2011, 10:50 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 5-June 11 From: Australia |
what about the south asian guys on this forum with a fetish for asian women, is that also driven by pedophilia? id say old dirty men with an asian fetish is the result of pedophilia, its got nothing to do with being white.
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Nov 20 2011, 02:42 AM
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what about the south asian guys on this forum with a fetish for asian women, is that also driven by pedophilia? id say old dirty men with an asian fetish is the result of pedophilia, its got nothing to do with being white. Asians are the only race that still long to be be with white people despite how they are viewed by whites as different and inferior. Arabs, blacks, Latinos, Indians dont exhibitg this peculiar, stomach hurling phenomenon that has an almost naive, infantile and childish seeking out for the west in just about every facet from looks, to lifestyle to mentality that creates the term asiaphile that does not exist if a whit eperson is attracted to any other non-white race. The similiarity with pediphile is no coincidence. The asian and white relationship is similar to a child who is being fu-ked by an older person. The asian has no voice in white society and is portrayed in ways to keep him/her under represented in the mainstream or life of society other than someone who obeys and listens to the status qou like a child, and yet they still reach out to the white majority like a little child and in turn they get fu-ked. Asiaphile is quite q witty and accurate term for the relationship between white and asian. Until there is dignity in the dynamic it will always be asiaphilia, it is as like pedophilia one side that is firmly in control. |
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Dec 11 2011, 11:18 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 11-December 11 |
This "old white man with young asian girl" phenomena is hardly driven by pedophilia! It's a mutually messed up relationship based on the asian woman wanting a supporter and the old white man wanting an attractive partner. I live in Thailand and see this here often, at first my thoughts were "eww what a terrible man taking advantage of the women here" now having lived here for so long I know very different! More often than not, it's the women that seek out these relationships and secures a white husband(or foreign husband) to secure a comfortable life for her family that she otherwise may not have been able to do. The husband thus benefits by having an attractive young wife.
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Dec 12 2011, 01:48 AM
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Haha! Koreans.
That's all I have to say. |
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Dec 13 2011, 12:58 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 12-September 07 |
Theres two types of yellow fever dont get them mixed up.
Just like theres two types of guys that love blond girls! One type is the freaken pervert who is out to hurt and molest innosent kids and rape innocent woman. The other type is just an average person , could be a good person who is looking for a asian wife or a blonde wife,or brunnette or redhead white wife, weather hes asian , or white, doesnt matter, there are two types, good and evil people. Dont be so judgmental and nieve and also dont be so trusting! This post has been edited by Sisi: Dec 13 2011, 01:01 AM |
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Dec 13 2011, 01:57 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,894 Joined: 14-July 09 |
So many weak and timid American men are afraid of American women, so they want foreign woman with a reputation for submissiveness. They're too emasculated to handle any woman with a hint of assertiveness and independence.
Me? I can tame any women
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Dec 13 2011, 12:28 PM
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Many seem to be pedophiles such as Woody Allen who, for all intents and purpose, molested his young adopted Korean daughter and then married her.
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Dec 13 2011, 01:42 PM
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Jan 14 2012, 11:42 AM
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Haha! Koreans. That's all I have to say. Haha ! little Shanghai men ! That is all your little dominant women have to say . HAHA The less southern Chinese southeast Asian shanghai bloody genetics a Japanese or Koren hasthe more bigger they tend to be and less William hung-ish in appearance In Shanghai the women are traditionally more masculine than the men, who are considered to be timid/sheepish and rather passive aggressive, and that is why, for generations, the women of SHanghai have always been the sole "bread-winners" of the family hustling and making cash while the men stay at home cooking cleaning raising the children. The "little men of China" or the "little SHanghai man" are a funny bunch, with big dreams. They absolutely ADORE pink glittery spandex which they never forget to meticulously strap on before going about their daily Gymnastic Olympian practices. In Shanghai if you are sexy, you are said to look like Yao Ming, if you are athletic you are told to become a professional ribbon twirler. Only Koreans with Southern Chinese / Shanghai blood look small and weak, isn't that what you mean ? - FACT btw go back to shanghai chinar -embarassedlaugh This post has been edited by starrr: Jan 14 2012, 07:39 PM |
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Jan 14 2012, 01:06 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,943 Joined: 25-March 09 From: Sylmar Cal |
It's a long paper, some of it I agree with, some of it I don't.
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Jan 16 2012, 03:48 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 12-September 07 |
Im a white westerner and I too think its discusting when they go for innocent children, hey thats in any race of children!
Also anyone from any race that gos after children is sick! And just because he was white doesnt mean all white people are like that! And just because a man marries an asian woman Im saying woman and if it was her choice to marry a white man then it has nothing to do with pedephile! BTW some much older asian men marry young white ladies too. Get it strait!!! Chou |
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Jan 16 2012, 04:02 AM
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Im a white westerner and I too think its discusting when they go for innocent children, hey thats in any race of children! Also anyone from any race that gos after children is sick! And just because he was white doesnt mean all white people are like that! And just because a man marries an asian woman Im saying woman and if it was her choice to marry a white man then it has nothing to do with pedephile! BTW some much older asian men marry young white ladies too. Get it strait!!! Chou It's nothing against White women, just White men who have a perverted nature. It's like past the age of 40 and they turn into fat, balding perverts! |
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Jan 16 2012, 04:44 AM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 5-June 11 From: Australia |
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Jan 16 2012, 11:16 PM
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are you saying they are worse than old asian men? How do you explain that White men have the highest percentage of pedophiles. In Scandinavia there's a political group for Pedophiles. In America there's things like NAMBLA (north american man boy love association). I don't see how anyone can point fingers at Asian men when White men get boners everytime they see little boys. If you have a White husband, you better guard your children.... |
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Jan 17 2012, 03:34 AM
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How do you explain that White men have the highest percentage of pedophiles. In Scandinavia there's a political group for Pedophiles. In America there's things like NAMBLA (north american man boy love association). I don't see how anyone can point fingers at Asian men when White men get boners everytime they see little boys. If you have a White husband, you better guard your children.... Im against anyone who gos after children! Are'nt they doing anything about this ? Seriously if I seen this in person, I would'nt let it slide, that man needs to be sent to jail! Those poor kids! Also its not fare to judge all white men like that, Im sorry you had to meet the worse ones, but there are alot of good white men in this world. Actually you just shouldnt trust a stranger and you shouldnt trust anyone so easily regardless of what race they are, gaurd your children!Trust should be earned. And you shouldnt hate so easily, not everyone is bad and thats unjust also. This post has been edited by Sisi: Jan 17 2012, 03:37 AM |
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Jan 17 2012, 11:10 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,476 Joined: 7-January 11 From: America |
The reason people make this argument is because Asians have more androgynous bodies when compared to other races. A lot of people think adulthood is just hormones. Since Asian bodies don't produce as much hormones as other races, Asians end up having a more child-like appearance. This is especially true among the less mixed northerners. Remember that this is just physical appearance and not necessary personality. However, there is more to adulthood than just having sexual characteristics.
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Jan 18 2012, 07:41 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,059 Joined: 12-February 04 |
I hate how us Asian dudes make the excuse that white guys love asian girls cause they're pedophiles in a way. Because it makes us seem like we were genetically meant to look like babies, when I see the opposite being true with many individual Asians. We must be careful to fall prey to this victimized mentality.
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Jan 18 2012, 07:43 AM
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The reason people make this argument is because Asians have more androgynous bodies when compared to other races. A lot of people think adulthood is just hormones. Since Asian bodies don't produce as much hormones as other races, Asians end up having a more child-like appearance. This is especially true among the less mixed northerners. Remember that this is just physical appearance and not necessary personality. However, there is more to adulthood than just having sexual characteristics. I guess body wise it would be true, but not always the case of course. And I think Asians being more focused with having a baby face ignores the fact that many blacks have baby round faces as well. Of course I have seen long faces on either race, more so from Asians though, and the simple fact that we are more pure. We also ignore the multitude of chubby round faced white people, which I guess one old topic alluded to that said white people can have flat faces as well. This post has been edited by questionnaire: Jan 18 2012, 07:47 AM |
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Jan 18 2012, 03:07 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,476 Joined: 7-January 11 From: America |
I hate how us Asian dudes make the excuse that white guys love asian girls cause they're pedophiles in a way. Because it makes us seem like we were genetically meant to look like babies, when I see the opposite being true with many individual Asians. We must be careful to fall prey to this victimized mentality. I see what you mean. It does seem like a guy is having a victim mentality if he accuses his competitors of being latent pedophiles. However, the reality is that Asians are more likely to look sexually ambiguous when compared to other races. It is the result of adaptation to Siberia's ice age climate. Asian bodies produce less hormones than that of other races. Less hormones means less obvious sexual characteristics. This in turn means a more child-like appearance. Technically any non-Asian who is attracted to Asians would be latent pedophiles including white women who are attracted to Asian men. Once again, it also depends on which Asians you are talking about. The less mixed full Mongoloids of the north are more likely to be androgynous. This would be Koreans, Japanese, northern Chinese, Mongolians, eastern Siberian natives, and Eskimos. Just take a look at those J-Pop and K-Pop celebrities. A lot of them don't look manly or girly. A lot of Southerners are mixed with proto-Mongoloids and Australoids. Proto-Mongoloids are actually the original Asians before adaptation to Siberia's tundra climate. Compared to the "chinesey faced" Mongoloids, the proto-Mongoloids and the Australoids are less androgynous since they adapted to a warmer environment. This is also why Southeast Asians have a stronger sex drive when compared with northerners. I guess body wise it would be true, but not always the case of course. And I think Asians being more focused with having a baby face ignores the fact that many blacks have baby round faces as well. Of course I have seen long faces on either race, more so from Asians though, and the simple fact that we are more pure. We also ignore the multitude of chubby round faced white people, which I guess one old topic alluded to that said white people can have flat faces as well. It's not just the face. Full Asian women are less likely to have large breasts and wide hips. Full Asian men are less likely to have facial hair. Building muscle mass is also more difficult for full Asian men. Asian Mongoloids are the most androgynous of all the human races. On the positive side, the future human is predicted to be more androgynous. |
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