When Malays are also migrating, Are you one of them ? |
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When Malays are also migrating, Are you one of them ? |
May 4 2007, 05:37 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 27-January 07 From: JToWn & MbourNe |
Are you one of them with different reasons compare to Indian and Chinese Malaysian ?
QUOTE When Malays are also migrating
Nik Nazmi has written a very interesting entry on his blog. His entry title - "Apabila Orang Melayu Turut Berhijrah…" which translates to "When the Malays migrate as well..." is a fresh take of a Malay's point of view when we're talking about something as critical as our homeland's failing economical policies. Here are the top 2 paragraphs from his entry in Malay. "Saya baru pulang daripada sebuah majlis makan malam tertutup bersama beberapa tokoh korporat. Tuan rumah majlis tersebut menceritakan bagaimana dia bertemu seorang tokoh muda Melayu Malaysia yang bekerja di sebuah bank pelaburan terkemuka dunia di Singapura. Beliau berkata kepada tokoh muda tersebut, tak minat pulang ke Malaysia ke? Pasti dia boleh memainkan peranan besar di bank-bank tempatan. Jawab tokoh muda tersebut: “Saya tak ingin pulang. Kalau saya pulang dan dilantik menjadi ketua, orang akan memandang saya mendapat jawatan tersebut hanya kerana saya Melayu. Mereka pasti memikirkan ada dua-tiga eksekutif Cina yang berada di belakang saya, membuat kerja-kerja saya. Mereka tidak akan menghargai kebolehan, penat lelah dan titik peluh saya untuk mencapai kejayaan tersebut. Saya lagi rela berada di sini di mana orang tahu saya kena bekerja keras untuk sampai di sini.” Here is an English translation. "I have just arrived home from a private dinner with a few prominent corporate figures. The host of the dinner was just telling a story as to how he met a young Malay Malaysian corporate figure that is working in a very famous investment bank in Singapore. He asked the young man if he was interested in going back to Malaysia. He would surely be able to play a very large role in the local banks. The young corporate figure replied, "I am not interested in going home. If I go back and get elected as a head, people will think that I obtained the position just because I am Malay. They will surely think that I will be backed by 2-3 Chinese executives that will do all my work for me. They will not appreciate my skills, hard work and sweat that I have put into achieving this success. I rather stay here where people know I have worked hard to arrive at where I am today." This hits the nail right on its head. The government's continued ignorance to continue with the failing NEP and its racial based methods to run the country clearly requires a big wake up call. I am sure that this young Malay corporate figure in Singapore is not alone in his thinking. I have had Malay friends who have mentioned the very same thing to me before. Things shouldn't have to do with the colour of your skin. Your religion shouldn't matter. What ethnic background you have shouldn't be a cause for discrimination. When you push people away with discriminatory policies, they will just make do and take the more appealing choice that will give them better success in life when arriving at a crossroad in life. In this case - this fellow Malay has decided to live on in Singapore with his skills, where people will respect him for what he is. You can't buy respect. You may be able to buy votes with exorbitant spending through 'money politics' and continue to stay in power, but you cannot buy the souls and hearts of the rest of the country. As people get more educated about the issues that have they have been blinded with, they will realise how much needs to be done in order to make their country better. It is very good to hear from a Malay Malaysian. This truly provides a very fresh take on this whole economical policy issue. "Isu orang bukan Melayu meninggalkan Malaysia kerana kecewa dengan dasar ekonomi kerajaan sudah cukup biasa diulas. Tetapi apabila ada orang Melayu yang kononnya menjadi penerima faedah utama dasar tersebut juga mengambil langkah untuk keluar, ia menghantar mesej yang cukup mendalam untuk kerajaan." The translation goes as below. "The issue of non-Malays leaving Malaysia because they are disappointed with the government's economical policy has been repeatedly brought up. But when there are Malays who are supposedly the main benefactors of the policy who take steps to get out - this sends a really deep message to the government". Bravo Nik for your entry. Let's hope it does not fall on deaf ears. Link: http://www.harbx.com/archives/2006/12/when_malays_are.html This post has been edited by firdausj: May 4 2007, 05:44 AM |
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May 8 2007, 07:05 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 6-September 05 From: Belle City |
Most Malays will never settle permanently in other country. We will stay there as long as our heart can take and then balik kampung to retire. I am a US green card holder but I don't plan to stay here forever or change my citizenship.
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May 8 2007, 11:04 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,529 Joined: 16-February 06 |
Anecdotally, I've recently noticed more Malays in Melbourne which means better quality Malay food here
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May 12 2007, 07:38 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,614 Joined: 29-August 05 |
I know some Malays who migrated or plans to migrate for the same reason.
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May 14 2007, 07:44 AM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 26-October 06 |
QUOTE(1+1 @ May 8 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]2931456[/snapback] Most Malays will never settle permanently in other country. We will stay there as long as our heart can take and then balik kampung to retire. I am a US green card holder but I don't plan to stay here forever or change my citizenship. You may not want to be a US citizen but the fact that you did obtain a PR and chose to stay in US now instead of returning to Malaysia speaks for itself. You are in a situation no different from the Malay quoted in the above article. |
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Jun 3 2007, 08:04 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,892 Joined: 11-May 04 From: A Humble Abode |
Migrating has such an air of... finality, to it. I prefer the term 'merantau'.
I love both countries in different ways, but UK is home now. Malaysia though, is still Home. |
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Jun 3 2007, 07:07 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,529 Joined: 16-February 06 |
QUOTE(malaccan @ Jun 3 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]2980724[/snapback] Migrating has such an air of... finality, to it. I prefer the term 'merantau'. I love both countries in different ways, but UK is home now. Malaysia though, is still Home. Ha, ha, I know what you mean but the longer you stay away, the harder it is to go back. |
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Jun 3 2007, 08:54 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,845 Joined: 24-January 07 From: Bolehland |
I remember one minister said sth like migration among Malaysians is just like"semut dengan gula".They move to where they can earn more money and strive for a wealthier life
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Jun 3 2007, 09:28 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,277 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Sydney, Australia |
Actually those are just ignorant statements made by idiotic politicians in the Malaysian government.
I'm actually pissed about them about all their talk and no action attitude that isn't giving the country any progress nor benefits. Did you know my life here in Australia isn't an easy one? I have to work as a kitchen hand in Queensland for starters just before I graduated to pay up my courses and some of my living expenses. After I graduate it's very hard for me to find an I.T job in Queensland. Only those who get the jobs are either close nit friends inside a company who have referrals or family. For 3 months I tried applying for full-time positions in I.T without avail and in the meantime I was working as a farm-boy picking cherry tomatoes for the whole Australian nation to eat. After 3 months trying without success I decided I had enough. It's time to move to New South Wales where most of the jobs are located. With that money I had saved while working I made a daring effort to move to Sydney. So here I am now and at least I had working experience in the I.T sector that will help my career. However my fight is still not over yet because currently I'm a in a bit of a jam and I am taking action to improve my quality of life. All that I believe and all the lifestyles that I have experience in Malaysia I have to throw away. A sacrifice must be made if I have to get along with the people of Australia. Since I cannot do things the way it is done in Malaysia now that I am a permanent resident I have to do things the Aussie way. Migration isn't a good and easy thing. It's takes a lot out of you and you have to change to adapt with the people around you. You can't stay the same as you were when you're living in your own country because your ways will conflict the interest of your host country. I kept this in mind because I came all the way, spend my time and money doing all this and it will be a waste if I just give up and go home. The feeling of your own achievements, success and accomplishments is very sweet. And "NO ONE!" not even some prime minister or high ranking associate of another country can bribe you away from that feeling. It is because during this stage you have the confidence and the knowledge to do things by yourself without being dependable to anyone. You will feel PROUD in the end. |
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Jun 4 2007, 11:03 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,845 Joined: 24-January 07 From: Bolehland |
^^ BOD thanks for sharing that with us.I know those are just ignorant statements made by our politicians.Trust me,we have that enough lately especially that controversial "bocor" issue.Seriously I think I make a better politicial than most of them.lol They should have known that ppl migrating not solely because of gaining wealth.But also because of their children's education.I know I'll have to endure many hardships if I step out of my comfort zone and venture abroad.But hey I am young,I am willing to take whatever that is thrown at me if that is what it takes to change my life dramatically.
This post has been edited by theng: Jun 4 2007, 11:09 AM |
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Jun 4 2007, 01:28 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 743 Joined: 5-December 06 |
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Jun 5 2007, 02:06 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,892 Joined: 11-May 04 From: A Humble Abode |
^I had no idea...
QUOTE(Bringer_Of_Death @ Jun 4 2007, 03:28 AM) [snapback]2981809[/snapback] Actually those are just ignorant statements made by idiotic politicians in the Malaysian government. I'm actually pissed about them about all their talk and no action attitude that isn't giving the country any progress nor benefits. Did you know my life here in Australia isn't an easy one? I have to work as a kitchen hand in Queensland for starters just before I graduated to pay up my courses and some of my living expenses. After I graduate it's very hard for me to find an I.T job in Queensland. Only those who get the jobs are either close nit friends inside a company who have referrals or family. For 3 months I tried applying for full-time positions in I.T without avail and in the meantime I was working as a farm-boy picking cherry tomatoes for the whole Australian nation to eat. After 3 months trying without success I decided I had enough. It's time to move to New South Wales where most of the jobs are located. With that money I had saved while working I made a daring effort to move to Sydney. So here I am now and at least I had working experience in the I.T sector that will help my career. However my fight is still not over yet because currently I'm a in a bit of a jam and I am taking action to improve my quality of life. All that I believe and all the lifestyles that I have experience in Malaysia I have to throw away. A sacrifice must be made if I have to get along with the people of Australia. Since I cannot do things the way it is done in Malaysia now that I am a permanent resident I have to do things the Aussie way. Migration isn't a good and easy thing. It's takes a lot out of you and you have to change to adapt with the people around you. You can't stay the same as you were when you're living in your own country because your ways will conflict the interest of your host country. I kept this in mind because I came all the way, spend my time and money doing all this and it will be a waste if I just give up and go home. The feeling of your own achievements, success and accomplishments is very sweet. And "NO ONE!" not even some prime minister or high ranking associate of another country can bribe you away from that feeling. It is because during this stage you have the confidence and the knowledge to do things by yourself without being dependable to anyone. You will feel PROUD in the end. You've always intrigued me BOD. Again, all the best in your future undertakings. I sincerely feel that Malaysia is that much poorer for losing sons like you. @swingdoctor: Yeah, it gets harder as the years go by. Now when I'm back in Msia I feel like I'm visiting rather than being home. But it still is Home. |
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Jun 5 2007, 06:28 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,277 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Sydney, Australia |
Thank you all for keeping my story in mind.
Everyone must remember that most things don't come easy. You have to work your way up to earn respect among the people and the world. Only determination and the will to succeed will bring you through. QUOTE(theng @ Jun 5 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]2982859[/snapback] ^^ BOD thanks for sharing that with us.I know those are just ignorant statements made by our politicians.Trust me,we have that enough lately especially that controversial "bocor" issue.Seriously I think I make a better politicial than most of them.lol They should have known that ppl migrating not solely because of gaining wealth.But also because of their children's education.I know I'll have to endure many hardships if I step out of my comfort zone and venture abroad.But hey I am young,I am willing to take whatever that is thrown at me if that is what it takes to change my life dramatically. Okay Theng I expect you to hold a "Datin" position in the political office when you've done your schooling. Give me a call when you're there at the top so I can come over and congratulate you. |
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Jun 5 2007, 09:02 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,845 Joined: 24-January 07 From: Bolehland |
^^^ Trust me,BOD I will.
And I would love to see u gaze at me in admiration at that time.Muahahahahaha |
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Jun 5 2007, 11:28 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,277 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Sydney, Australia |
QUOTE(theng @ Jun 6 2007, 10:02 AM) [snapback]2985448[/snapback] ^^^ Trust me,BOD I will. And I would love to see u gaze at me in admiration at that time.Muahahahahaha Okay, sugar I would love to hear all about it. Make sure you don't dig your own grave by making that statement. |
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Jun 6 2007, 12:32 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,157 Joined: 21-October 04 From: Sarawak, East MALAYSIA |
Well, migrate if you can, but NEVER surrender your Malaysian citizenship. Apply for PR in other countries if you want, but DO NOT SURRENDER your Malaysian citizenship.
Lately, there's been cases where ex-Malaysians who wants to return back to Malaysia & have their application to re-apply their previous Malaysian citizenships being rejected. It seems, once you willingly ditched your Malaysian citizenhip in order to become a foreign country' citizen, you can't become Malaysian again ... for good. It seems, like the minister in charge announced early this year, "Menyesal tiada gunanya ...". Somehow, I agree with him. |
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Jun 6 2007, 12:34 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,157 Joined: 21-October 04 From: Sarawak, East MALAYSIA |
Well, migrate if you can, but NEVER surrender your Malaysian citizenship. Apply for PR in other countries if you want, but DO NOT SURRENDER your Malaysian citizenship.
Lately, there's been cases where ex-Malaysians who wants to return back to Malaysia & have their application to re-apply their previous Malaysian citizenships being rejected. It seems, once you willingly ditched your Malaysian citizenhip in order to become a foreign country' citizen, you can't become Malaysian again ... for good. It seems, like the minister in charge announced early this year, "Menyesal tiada gunanya ...". Somehow, I agree with him. |
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Jun 6 2007, 12:58 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,845 Joined: 24-January 07 From: Bolehland |
I was on drug
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Jul 11 2007, 07:50 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 27-January 07 From: JToWn & MbourNe |
QUOTE Tired of Malaysia? Between 1996 and April this year, 106,000 Malaysians gave up their citizenship: 79,199 Malays, 25,107 Chinese, 1,347 Indians and 350 other races. Marriage was the most common reason for giving up citizenship.
It has been the popular assumption that the non-Malays are the ones leaving Malaysia for greener pastures and the Malays have no reason to leave because comfort zone is here. Are more Malays leaving the country (and not because of marriage)? Someone should conduct a survey. The other day, a Malay corporate figure told me that he was considering migrating. He said he was sick and tired with what's been happening in this country. Another very high-profiled, jet-set corporate man (not a Malay) is also thinking of going. He told me he can't tolerate the racism anymore. http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2007/07/malays-are-leaving.html This post has been edited by firdausj: Jul 11 2007, 08:07 AM |
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Jul 12 2007, 04:55 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,277 Joined: 2-May 04 From: Sydney, Australia |
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jun 6 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]2985741[/snapback] Well, migrate if you can, but NEVER surrender your Malaysian citizenship. Apply for PR in other countries if you want, but DO NOT SURRENDER your Malaysian citizenship. Lately, there's been cases where ex-Malaysians who wants to return back to Malaysia & have their application to re-apply their previous Malaysian citizenships being rejected. It seems, once you willingly ditched your Malaysian citizenhip in order to become a foreign country' citizen, you can't become Malaysian again ... for good. It seems, like the minister in charge announced early this year, "Menyesal tiada gunanya ...". Somehow, I agree with him. Firstly should I consider am I proud to be an individual of that nation? Secondly is it worth it all? All those people who cast us aside. Seen us as nothing even if we work so hard to do our best as an individual? The third thing we need to consider is why should we go back ? Even if you put up an attractive packages to lure us in it would not make us come back. For most of us who had left tend to know that these packages the Malaysian government has offered seek to soil a persons reputation and above all the persons dignity. The Malaysian government has no shame at all. |
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