Becoming a Malaysian Citizen Options

[puteriUK]

I am a British-born Malay who has lived in London, UK all my entire life. I live with my immediate family and I go back to Malaysia often to visit the rest of my relatives. I love Malaysia and even going back as often as every 3-4months is not enough for me. I am currently a British citizen and if possible I would like to become a Malaysian, or have the opportunity to work and experiance Malaysia more. How shall I go about this?

[ricochet]

I am a British-born Malay who has lived in London, UK all my entire life. I live with my immediate family and I go back to Malaysia often to visit the rest of my relatives. I love Malaysia and even going back as often as every 3-4months is not enough for me. I am currently a British citizen and if possible I would like to become a Malaysian, or have the opportunity to work and experiance Malaysia more. How shall I go about this?

why do you want to change your citizenship? you can experience all you want to experience by being what you are .... will changing the citizenship make any difference?

[Betong]

You can just go to Malaysia and work there. It as simple as that...
But if you want more experiance about Malaysia and its Malay world try live in kampung...

[puteriUK]

You can just go to Malaysia and work there. It as simple as that...
But if you want more experiance about Malaysia and its Malay world try live in kampung...

But how? I can only stay max 3months je la.....

[puteriUK]

why do you want to change your citizenship? you can experience all you want to experience by being what you are .... will changing the citizenship make any difference?

its not about the WHYS, its about the HOWS....

[ricochet]

But how? I can only stay max 3months je la.....

you say you worked for MAS london....and now you lament on the 3 month stay period. hello dear....what are you doing actually. Does any company give so much leave like dat

even so, you could always go to Singapore and cum back again to get your visa extended.....I dun think you require any visa right

basically if you have a relative in Malaysia....and if you want to stay longer...can apply for a long term visa lor

[ricochet]

its not about the WHYS, its about the HOWS....

I am curious to know why dats all....but if you insist on wanting to know HOW...go to the london high commission lor...you can get all details there

they would always welcome any malays who wants to be malaysian.... I bet they are surprised

[ricochet]

PART III - Citizenship

[edit] Chapter 1 - Acquisition of Citizenship

[edit] Article 14
Subject to the provisions of this Part, the following persons are citizens by operation of law, that is to say:
(a) every person born before Malaysia Day who is a citizen of the Federation by virtue of the provisions contained in Part 1 of the Second Schedule; and
(b) every person born on or after Malaysia Day, and having any of the qualifications specified in Part 11 of the Second Schedule.
© (Repealed).
(Repealed).
(Repealed).

[edit] Article 15
Subject to Article 18, any married woman whose husband is a citizen is entitled, upon making application to the Federal Government, to be registered as a citizen if the marriage was subsisting and the husband a citizen at the beginning of October 1962, or if she satisfies the Federal Government -
(a) that she has resided in the Federation throughout the two years preceding the date of the application and intends to do so permanently; and
(b) that she is of good character.
Subject to Article 18, the Federal Government may cause any person under the age of twenty-one years whose parents one at least is (or was at death) a citizen to be registered as a citizen upon application made to the Federal Government by his parent or guardian.
Subject to Article 18, a person under the age of twenty-one years who was born before the beginning of October 1962, and whose father is (or was at his death) a citizen and was also a citizen at the beginning of that month (if then alive), is entitled upon application made to the Federal Government by his parent or guardian, to be registered as a citizen if the Federal Government is satisfied that he is ordinarily resident in the Federation and is of good character.
For the purposes of Clause (1) residence before Malaysia Day in the territories comprised in the States of Sabah and Sarawak shall be treated as residence in the Federation.
The reference in Clause (1) to a married woman is a reference to a woman whose marriage has been registered in accordance with any written law in force in the Federation, including any such law in force before Merdeka Day, or with any written law in force before Malaysia Day in the territories comprised in the States of Sabah and Sarawak:
Provided that this Clause shall not apply where the woman applies to be registered as a citizen before the beginning of September 1965, or such later date as may be fixed by order of the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, and is at the date of the application ordinarily resident in the States of Sabah and Sarawak.

(Repealed)

[edit] Article 16
16.

Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -
(a) that -
(i) he is resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;
(ii) (Repealed).
(b) that he is of good character; and
© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language.
(2) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, in such special circumstances as it thinks fit, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -
(a) that he has resided in the Federation during the seven years immediately preceding the date of the application, for periods amounting in the aggregate to not less than five years;
(b) that he intends to do so permanently;
© that he is of good character; and
(d) that he has an elementary knowledge of the Malay language.
Article 16a 16A. Subject to Article 18, any person of or over the age of eighteen years who is on Malaysia Day ordinarily resident in the State of Sabah or Sarawak is entitled, upon making application to the Federal Government before September 1971, to be registered as a citizen if he satisfies the Federal Government -

(a) that he has resided before Malaysia Day in the territories comprised in those States and after Malaysia Day in the Federation for periods which amount in the aggregate to not less than seven years in the ten years immediately preceding the date of the application, and which include the twelve months immediately preceding that date;
(b) that he intends to reside permanently in the Federation;
© that he is of good character; and
(d) except where the application is made before September 1965, and the applicant has attained the age of forty-five years at the date of the application, that he has a sufficient knowledge of the Malay language or the English language or, in the case of an applicant ordinarily resident in Sarawak, the Malay language, the English language or any native language in current use in Sarawak.

[edit] Article 17
(Repealed)


[edit] Article 18
18.

No person of or over the age of eighteen years shall be registered as a citizen under this Constitution until he has taken the oath set out in the First Schedule.
Except with the approval of the Federal Government, no person who has renounced or has been deprived of citizenship under this Constitution or who has renounced or has been deprived of federal citizenship or citizenship of the Federation before Merdeka Day under the Federation of Malaya Agreement, 1948 shall be registered as a citizen under this Constitution.
A person registered as a citizen under this Constitution shall be a citizen by registration from the day on which he is so registered.
(Repealed).

[edit] Article 19
19.

(1) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -
(a) that -
(i) he has resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;
(ii) (Repealed).
(b) that he is of good character; and
© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language.
(2) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, in such special circumstances as it thinks fit, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -
(a) that he has resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;
(b) that he is of good character; and
© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language.
(3) The periods of residence in the Federation or the relevant part of it which are required for the grant of a certificate of naturalization are periods which amount in the aggregate to not less than ten years in the twelve years immediately preceding the date of the application for the certificate, and which include the twelve months immediately preceding that date.
(4) For the purposes of Clauses (1) and (2) residence before Malaysia Day in the territories comprised in the States of Sabah and Sarawak shall be treated as residence in the Federation; and for purposes of Clause (2) residence in Singapore before Malaysia Day or with the approval of the Federal Government residence in Singapore after Malaysia Day shall be treated as residence in the Federation.
(5) A person to whom a certificate of naturalization is granted shall be a citizen by naturalization from the date on which the certificate is granted.
(6) (Repealed)
(7) (Repealed)
(8) (Repealed)
(9) No certificate of naturalization shall be granted to any person until he has taken the oath set out in the First Schedule.
Article 19a 19A. (Repealed)


[edit] Article 20
20. (Repealed)


[edit] Article 21
21. (Repealed)


[edit] Article 22
If any new territory is admitted to the Federation after Malaysia Day in pursuance of Article 2, parliament may by law determine what persons are to be citizens by reason of their connection with that territory and the date or dates from which such persons are to be citizens.

[malaccan]

I am a British-born Malay who has lived in London, UK all my entire life. I live with my immediate family and I go back to Malaysia often to visit the rest of my relatives. I love Malaysia and even going back as often as every 3-4months is not enough for me. I am currently a British citizen and if possible I would like to become a Malaysian, or have the opportunity to work and experiance Malaysia more. How shall I go about this?

Hi puteriUK. Check your PM. I've British-born Malay friends, some of whom actually worked at MAS HQ in London! I bet you either kow or know of them.

For what it's worth, it's easier to get UK citizenship than it is a Msian one I'm afraid.

[puteriUK]

For what it's worth, it's easier to get UK citizenship than it is a Msian one I'm afraid.
[/quote]

wahhhhhh

[malaccan]

For what it's worth, it's easier to get UK citizenship than it is a Msian one I'm afraid.
wahhhhhh

LoL. Dah dah dah, jangan nangis ye. Conversely there are many Msians who would like UK citizenship, kan?

[ricochet]

LoL. Dah dah dah, jangan nangis ye. Conversely there are many Msians who would like UK citizenship, kan?

putri...I'll swap mine for yours...anytime

[Betong]

For what it's worth, it's easier to get UK citizenship than it is a Msian one I'm afraid.
wahhhhhh

In my opinian it not hard as you think it was... If govt doesn't grant you a citizenship just live there as "pendatang asing"...
It more easier and cheaper. But I do think Malaysia govt will granted your application if you apply...

[ricochet]

In my opinian it not hard as you think it was... If govt doesn't grant you a citizenship just live there as "pendatang asing"...
It more easier and cheaper. But I do think Malaysia govt will granted your application if you apply...

for a malay to apply....nah its juz a formality....its quite easy...

for non malays....you wait till kingdom come lar

[puteriUK]

In my opinian it not hard as you think it was... If govt doesn't grant you a citizenship just live there as "pendatang asing"...
It more easier and cheaper. But I do think Malaysia govt will granted your application if you apply...

Even if i stay as "pendatang asing" it will be difficult to get a job without any PR of somesort...
ok jom kita swap..

[ricochet]

Even if i stay as "pendatang asing" it will be difficult to get a job without any PR of somesort...
ok jom kita swap..

makcik sayang....to get an employment in Malaysia you dun have to get a PR. As long as a company in Malaysia wants to employ you, you can be employed in Malaysia thereby giving you immediate residence to do whatever you want in Malaysia in the context of your employment contract in a nutshell. If you are a professional, then probably you will be the expatriate status.....lagi glamour haha

Short cut....can always marry betong and you can stay in Malaysia forever and ever...betong is a doctor....right doc

[Betong]

for a malay to apply....nah its juz a formality....its quite easy...

for non malays....you wait till kingdom come lar

Bro, don't mara-mara la.. I just play-play la... Dun get me wrong bro, but I'm again the practice of govt that give free citizenship like what happen in Sabah to whoever which didn't have any kind of reletionship to Malaysia. But Puteri UK case was different, she have some kind of relationship with Malaysia through her parents.
Lets take one example, if Rico married a filipino or Indonesian, I also agree if he want his son to get citizenship because somehow he have connection with Malaysia....

Even if i stay as "pendatang asing" it will be difficult to get a job without any PR of somesort...
ok jom kita swap..

Ooops, sorry I don't want swap my citizenship for anything.... Like rico said, it's easier for you to get PR if you married me

makcik sayang....to get an employment in Malaysia you dun have to get a PR. As long as a company in Malaysia wants to employ you, you can be employed in Malaysia thereby giving you immediate residence to do whatever you want in Malaysia in the context of your employment contract in a nutshell. If you are a professional, then probably you will be the expatriate status.....lagi glamour haha

Short cut....can always marry betong and you can stay in Malaysia forever and ever...betong is a doctor....right doc

Hehehehe, me a doctor... Doctor sakit jiwa bolehla...

[ricochet]

Bro, don't mara-mara la.. I just play-play la... Dun get me wrong bro, but I'm again the practice of govt that give free citizenship like what happen in Sabah to whoever which didn't have any kind of reletionship to Malaysia. But Puteri UK case was different, she have some kind of relationship with Malaysia through her parents.
Lets take one example, if Rico married a filipino or Indonesian, I also agree if he want his son to get citizenship because somehow he have connection with Malaysia....
Ooops, sorry I don't want swap my citizenship for anything.... Like rico said, it's easier for you to get PR if you married me
Hehehehe, me a doctor... Doctor sakit jiwa bolehla...

In SG...assuming I marry a singaporean, my kid will be automatically a singaporean. However, as a malaysian, I can also opt for a malaysian citizenship status for my kid. At the age of 21, my kid can choose to be a singaporean or malaysian. Everybody does that from what I know.

I where got marah marah one.....and I also pray pray lar

doc.... woodbridge got vacancy for you if you cant tahan tanjung rambutan... woodbridge got many MU paranoid patients

[Betong]

In SG...assuming I marry a singaporean, my kid will be automatically a singaporean. However, as a malaysian, I can also opt for a malaysian citizenship status for my kid. At the age of 21, my kid can choose to be a singaporean or malaysian. Everybody does that from what I know.

I where got marah marah one.....and I also pray pray lar

doc.... woodbridge got vacancy for you if you cant tahan tanjung rambutan... woodbridge got many MU paranoid patients

Ayoo, woodbrigde arrr... Some say woodbrigde was the best in SG and JB and some say Batam

[PB.]

hey so can someone, anyone, tell me what you think the ideal malaysian citizen would be?