Mongoloid Race Options

[FlyingHorse]

[Ugtay]

Yes mongoloid race lets speak about it!

[Suren911]

Well I wouldn't use the word "Mongoloid" because it's just a derogatory term that old western scholars came up with. I would just say "Mongol race" or "Mongolic race" or even more broad, Altaic people. Cause we all originated from the same place and at one point looked pretty much the same.

[Ugtay]

Well I wouldn't use the word "Mongoloid" because it's just a derogatory term that old western scholars came up with. I would just say "Mongol race" or "Mongolic race" or even more broad, Altaic people. Cause we all originated from the same place and at one point looked pretty much the same.

Althou we have same origin we are not living in peace togther some have lost their culture and the others think themselves to be better and not going to accept thier other brethren it's not good,it's too bad

[Boobylai]

^Whom?

[Suboreturns]

95% of racial documents are written by Europeans. The other 5% are non-Europeans using European sources. Cute situation isn't it

So you can't expect a non-biased or non-discriminary approach as the system which was used to justify slavery and colonisation is still in place. However Europeans themselves are opening up their eyes somewhat, many have already thrown out those categories in favor of modern anthropology and genetics. Anyways Altaic is only a linguistic grouping, if you want modern racial groupings here it is (recent anthropologics):

Mongoloid Subraces:
- Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)
- Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)
- Turanid race (Mongoloids hybridized with Caucasiods; Turkey, Hungary)
- Amerindian race (American Indians; various subraces)
- Northeast Asian or Northern Mongoloid race (various subraces in China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)
- Southeast Asian or Southern Mongoloid race (various subraces in southwest China, Indochina, Thailand, Myanmar [Burma], Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, the last four partly hybridized with Australoids)
- Micronesian-Polynesian race (predominantly Southern Mongoloid partly hybridized with Australoids)

Sources:
- Baker, J. R. (1974) "Race", Oxford University Press, New York and London.
- McCulloch, Richard, (2004) "The Racial Compact".

Forgot who it was who suggested southern Mongoloid to be classified as Malaijid, and 'Amerindian' is also known as Clovisian, though debate whether Clovisians themselves were from Northern Asian stock is still debatable. Though McCulloch is a bit of a contraversial author however, as he has views on racial seperatism in the U.S. and Nordicism. If he was a Nordic citizen of Norway, Sweden or Denmark -> I would support his views, but he's in the U.S., land of immigrants, so too bad for him. Some old anthropologists such as Carleton S. Coon (Not to mention even earlier ones) have been heavily criticised for his work due to his failure to study population genetics which modern anthropologists have studied aligning it to give more accurate results. Baker's work isn't bad, but at present there are way too many subraces for since genetics got involved. We also have a Turanid race now even, though they believe our traits are due to intermixing rather then proven facts of genetic drift (no caucasiod ancestry in many blondie/redhead Mongols).

[Boobylai]

It's hard for them to understand that the Yellow skined and Black haired thing is an adaptation to the region

In the Cold North you don't need that

PS Europeans except for south europeans migrated from Central Asia to their current location millenia ago. You don't see colour eyes in the South Europeans well verry few due to intermixing. Coloured eyes developed in CA i think due to it's climate. so people stayed in a similar climate some migrated to warmer places and lost the coloured eyes and lighter hair.

This goes both for Caucasoid peoples and Mongoloid

[vihmapura]

the French said the Australian Black Aborigenes were a mixing of Mongoloids and Afrikans .

It's hard for them to understand that the Yellow skined and Black haired thing is an adaptation to the region

In the Cold North you don't need that

PS Europeans except for south europeans migrated from Central Asia to their current location millenia ago. You don't see colour eyes in the South Europeans well verry few due to intermixing. Coloured eyes developed in CA i think due to it's climate. so people stayed in a similar climate some migrated to warmer places and lost the coloured eyes and lighter hair.

This goes both for Caucasoid peoples and Mongoloid

[Boobylai]

^eeeh no there aboriginals they're related to Africans but not mongoloids


when people left Africa there were 2 groups one the future caucasoid/mongoloid group and the aboriginals who moved to australia and south india if i remeber correctly.

[FlyingHorse]

^eeeh no there aboriginals they're related to Africans but not mongoloids
when people left Africa there were 2 groups one the future caucasoid/mongoloid group and the aboriginals who moved to australia and south india if i remeber correctly.

Tibetian high mountain was the fu-kin ambush

[Suboreturns]

Aryans are Persians; what is so disturbing nowadays is as Hitler designed the Aryan Migration theory, all his theories were thrown out by intellectuals as pseudoscience but as a result, the Europeans went "Germans aren't superior, we are ALL superior" and invented Indo-European theory to cover things up. You expect anyone to believe that the Europid people came from Persia? I personally believe that people did migrate from Africa upwards to Europe however this is pre-historic, Europids and Aryans are much different.

The theory of "Light skinned, blond Hair, blue Eyed Persian rulers being the Aryan race" is incredibly stupid. It's called genetic evolution and drift fellas that made Europids who they are, not only that; If the Europids are really from Persia they would have brought with them the very technologically advanced civilisation with them -> they didn't. So I'm sorry that I don't support their theories trying to hide their primitive roots of European civilisation by attempting to relate to far superior civilisation known as Persia/Iran (Land of the Aryans).

This post has been edited by Suboreturns: Dec 25 2008, 02:17 PM

[yhellothar]

I think they were speaking of the general geographic area around Persia/Mideast.

Most whites are just descended from cultureless apes running around in the forests of Europe though.

[Graham_Cracker07]

^eeeh no there aboriginals they're related to Africans but not mongoloids
when people left Africa there were 2 groups one the future caucasoid/mongoloid group and the aboriginals who moved to australia and south india if i remeber correctly.

How do you explain other black people in Asia & the Pacific (Negritos & Melanesians) They look different from Aborigines.

Negritos in the Philippines:


Melanesians in the Solomon Islands:


Aborigines of Australia:


Negritos & Melanesians look African, Aborigines look like a race of their own. The look similar to Indians though.

[Suboreturns]

Well racial studies even today are pretty limited and uninformed. It's probably always going to be this way, the human race is too diverse.

[baybal]

Aryans are Persians; what is so disturbing nowadays is as Hitler designed the Aryan Migration theory, all his theories were thrown out by intellectuals as pseudoscience but as a result, the Europeans went "Germans aren't superior, we are ALL superior" and invented Indo-European theory to cover things up. You expect anyone to believe that the Europid people came from Persia? I personally believe that people did migrate from Africa upwards to Europe however this is pre-historic, Europids and Aryans are much different.

The theory of "Light skinned, blond Hair, blue Eyed Persian rulers being the Aryan race" is incredibly stupid. It's called genetic evolution and drift fellas that made Europids who they are, not only that; If the Europids are really from Persia they would have brought with them the very technologically advanced civilisation with them -> they didn't. So I'm sorry that I don't support their theories trying to hide their primitive roots of European civilisation by attempting to relate to far superior civilisation known as Persia/Iran (Land of the Aryans).

Yeah, they were infested by Altaic civilisation, so they are even wearing a Korean hats ^,.^

[Suboreturns]

There's even debate of Scythian origins whether Iranic or Turkic. Have a look:

Only found Scythian script of Issık Kurgan burial site (3rd / 4th century B.C.):


Turkic Orkhon script:


Iranic translation:
"The vessel should hold wine of grapes, added cooked food, so much, to the mortal, then added cooked fresh butter on"
Turkic translation:
"Prince died at his 23. Farewell Esik people"

Iranic translation talks about wine, grapes, chese etc. Turkic translation talks about the death of the son of the Khan and Esik people. The lake that the Kurgan is found, is named Issık. It is also similar to the name of Scythians in foreing sources (İskit, Saka). Then forget about all crafted bias theories and tell me, which one actually looks scientificly logical?

Haha, hey guess what? Politics have entered history!... Oh duh what's new ne ways
So yeah

[Ugtay]

^Whom?

It's somthing between moghols and uzbeks of Iran and Afghanistan moghols think themselves to be better than uzbeks because of som moghol painting and gardens and uzbeks think themselves to be better than moghols because they can speak in uzbek but moghols can't speak in mogholon.althou they both were and are under pressure of persians(in iran) tajiks and pashtuns(in afghanistan) they did not stand united against them they are only retreating from them

This post has been edited by Ugtay: Dec 27 2008, 12:56 AM

[Ugtay]

It's hard for them to understand that the Yellow skined and Black haired thing is an adaptation to the region

In the Cold North you don't need that

PS Europeans except for south europeans migrated from Central Asia to their current location millenia ago. You don't see colour eyes in the South Europeans well verry few due to intermixing. Coloured eyes developed in CA i think due to it's climate. so people stayed in a similar climate some migrated to warmer places and lost the coloured eyes and lighter hair.

This goes both for Caucasoid peoples and Mongoloid

I'm both agree and disagree with you DNA dos not chages only with climate chages it's true than Aryans(indo europians) were in central asia and western siberia and they had coloured eyes and light hair and southern european are a part of Indo Europians but now they are mixed with other races and this is the part were climate is going to be important now a day latins are mixed Aryan having both coloured eyes and brown eye coromosome if now they migrate to for example siberia after a centuary they will have coloured eyes but if a group of indo europeans who are not mixed and don't havebrown and black eye coromosome migrate to a desert their DNA will not change.tatars are living in siberia for many centuarys but they haven't got coloured eyes becuase they don't have it's DNA and etc

This post has been edited by Ugtay: Dec 27 2008, 08:45 AM

[Ugtay]

Aryans are Persians; what is so disturbing nowadays is as Hitler designed the Aryan Migration theory, all his theories were thrown out by intellectuals as pseudoscience but as a result, the Europeans went "Germans aren't superior, we are ALL superior" and invented Indo-European theory to cover things up. You expect anyone to believe that the Europid people came from Persia? I personally believe that people did migrate from Africa upwards to Europe however this is pre-historic, Europids and Aryans are much different.

The theory of "Light skinned, blond Hair, blue Eyed Persian rulers being the Aryan race" is incredibly stupid. It's called genetic evolution and drift fellas that made Europids who they are, not only that; If the Europids are really from Persia they would have brought with them the very technologically advanced civilisation with them -> they didn't. So I'm sorry that I don't support their theories trying to hide their primitive roots of European civilisation by attempting to relate to far superior civilisation known as Persia/Iran (Land of the Aryans).

both europeans and ancient persians are aryans and all camed from central asia ancient persian were similar to europeans untill Arabian muslims attacked them now they are mixed with semits I can speak in persian(farsi) they call (mother madar) (father pedar) (brother baradar) (door dar) (key kelid) (mort marg) etc

[baybal]

So, you think that the ancient Aryans were in siberia and far east in begining of the neolyth only to scribe their meaningless runes on protolaltaic languages only to pretend to be a neolythic autochtonous population? Ahahaha lol. Chinese ideographic system have roots somewhere in now inner mongolia, travel inner mongolia and watch ideographic system evolution on cave walls, etc. But it's not so widespread fact, would like the CCP to let their people to know that their writing system have an Altaic origin?!

This post has been edited by baybal: Dec 26 2008, 11:36 PM