Western and Eastern: different standards of Asian beauty?? Options

[1800geico]

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This post has been edited by 1800geico: Oct 2 2011, 09:07 PM

[CheolSu]

left: asian video game character designed by a westerner
right: how the character would be designed if intended to suit asian (japanese in particular) tastes

I'd take the left one if she had the right one's boobies.

[rockcrazyboy]

*I'm beginning to think that people are gonna call me a racial hypocrite*...but.....

okay...first of all....answer to some posts...asian girls are not very obsessed about plastic surgery(except for Koreans maybe) and most of them, including big stars, are natural beauty. Philippines is a good example about natural beauty.

I find it understandable for westerners to be very much obligated to like asian girls because....let's face the truth....everything, I repeat, everything about asian girls is better than western girls. Their skins, their body structure, their muscle composition, their skeletal composition....asian girls are much more feminine compared to the wide-bodied tall Amazons of the west.

But the other factor to think about is the master-slave relation. Asian women have been portrayed in many western films as either a prostitute, stripper, or a slave(ONLY!). So the westerners are inclined to think of asian women as inferior and thereby pursue the pleasure of having an affair with someone who's willing to serve you.

So, the white are totally messed up....or even up to the extent that I could say they're "fu-ked up" about their tastes...but on the other hand...it's totally understandable(but not acceptable).

[Tabs]

I find it understandable for westerners to be very much obligated to like asian girls because....let's face the truth....everything, I repeat, everything about asian girls is better than western girls.

Most Westerners are not attracted to Asians, honestly. It's more of a niche interest, so I disagree with your argument.

That doesn't mean that Asians aren't attractive, it's just that as far as the majority goes, it's not for us. Most white guys/girls tend to date their race, and date other races as a secondary option. Those who prefer or think Asians are more attractive (or even, as attractive as white people) would be in the minority. It's just cultural perspective. The same way I think it's normal for Asians to find other Asians more attractive than whites, blacks, Hispanics, etc. It's the way you're raised/conditioned, not reality. In all reality I think you'd have a very hard time convincing me that one race is (generally) more attractive than any other--we just all have our own standards of beauty.

This post has been edited by Tabs: Oct 11 2011, 10:44 AM

[AsiaticGlory]

Most Westerners are not attracted to Asians, honestly. It's more of a niche interest, so I disagree with your argument.

That doesn't mean that Asians aren't attractive, it's just that as far as the majority goes, it's not for us. Most white guys/girls tend to date their race, and date other races as a secondary option. Those who prefer or think Asians are more attractive (or even, as attractive as white people) would be in the minority. It's just cultural perspective. The same way I think it's normal for Asians to find other Asians more attractive than whites, blacks, Hispanics, etc. It's the way you're raised/conditioned, not reality. In all reality I think you'd have a very hard time convincing me that one race is (generally) more attractive than any other--we just all have our own standards of beauty.

I agree. However, I would replace "cultural perspective" with "racial differences." It is interesting how I connect better with FOB Asian girls than with the white/Latina girls that live in the same neighborhood as me. If the media stayed out of the way, I am willing to bet that the majority of people would pick someone of their own race.

[GentleWind]

Get over skin colors and physical appearance. Don't invest too much emotional and mental efforts into it. Those who do is their problem.

That is my 2 cents.

[GentleWind]

Life comes with many bagagges already. You don't need more.

[rockcrazyboy]

Well....one thing I can say about differences between girls from east and west is that.....yeah...we need to get over the looks and skin color. It's about attitude. In the west, the girls are so open to sex and....I practically don't live in a country where they practice the openness to sex so obviously. So it's the personal value that differs the girls from the west and the east.

Wind, I like your sig.

[lukchin]

Why are people always trying to say that one race is better than the other on here??
Everyone has their own opinion on what is beautiful. Oddly enough in most asian countries, they prefer light-skinned asian women with tall noses and big eyes... This is probably a preference because it is a rarity, and people are generally attracted to someone exotic in their eyes. In contrast, in North America flatter noses, darker skin and almond eyes are exotic and unique to a person who is not familiar with these features. In my opinion, both are beautiful!

[lukchin]

I think the difference is not necessarily about women in the west being open to sex, but about the east generally being more conservative so there are issues like this that remain more taboo(when really they should be discussed such as safe sex).

[lukchin]

*I'm beginning to think that people are gonna call me a racial hypocrite*...but.....

okay...first of all....answer to some posts...asian girls are not very obsessed about plastic surgery(except for Koreans maybe) and most of them, including big stars, are natural beauty. Philippines is a good example about natural beauty.

I find it understandable for westerners to be very much obligated to like asian girls because....let's face the truth....everything, I repeat, everything about asian girls is better than western girls. Their skins, their body structure, their muscle composition, their skeletal composition....asian girls are much more feminine compared to the wide-bodied tall Amazons of the west.

But the other factor to think about is the master-slave relation. Asian women have been portrayed in many western films as either a prostitute, stripper, or a slave(ONLY!). So the westerners are inclined to think of asian women as inferior and thereby pursue the pleasure of having an affair with someone who's willing to serve you.

So, the white are totally messed up....or even up to the extent that I could say they're "fu-ked up" about their tastes...but on the other hand...it's totally understandable(but not acceptable).

This isn't just hypocritical, it's extremely inaccurate. First, I'd like to say I have no problem with plastic surgery. It's a personal decision, and if it makes someone happier about themselves then great. LOTS of asian women undergo plastic surgery, but maybe you just aren't aware of it. It's highly likely that more asian women undergo plastic surgery than in "western" countries, because the cost is much cheaper than in the west. Most common surgery is probably the eyelids to create the double lid, second would probably be silicone implant in the nose to create a taller nose -not just in korea! I have plenty of friends from Taiwan and Thailand doing these surgeries.

Secondly, "amazon" from the west? I guess you aren't aware that the national average height for women in Canada(my home country) in 1.63m while China's national average for females is 1.58m. Not much of a difference in height. Now, I took into consideration that you are from the Philippines which has a male average height of 1.63m... I'm going to assume since you think western women are all so incredibly tall because you fall short of your national average height.

Lastly, skeletal structure? You mean small bones, correct? This is from poor bone density. If you can touch your smallest finger to your thumb around your wrist you are at a greater risk of osteoporosis..

Why not just accept that people come in various colours, shapes and sizes and we're all beautiful in the eyes of someone.

[SemperFidelis]

I think the difference is not necessarily about women in the west being open to sex, but about the east generally being more conservative so there are issues like this that remain more taboo(when really they should be discussed such as safe sex).

he thinks a woman's only value lies in her virginity and that they are damaged goods if they lose it before marraige

[americanRidiot]

This isn't just hypocritical, it's extremely inaccurate. First, I'd like to say I have no problem with plastic surgery. It's a personal decision, and if it makes someone happier about themselves then great. LOTS of asian women undergo plastic surgery, but maybe you just aren't aware of it. It's highly likely that more asian women undergo plastic surgery than in "western" countries, because the cost is much cheaper than in the west. Most common surgery is probably the eyelids to create the double lid, second would probably be silicone implant in the nose to create a taller nose -not just in korea! I have plenty of friends from Taiwan and Thailand doing these surgeries.

Secondly, "amazon" from the west? I guess you aren't aware that the national average height for women in Canada(my home country) in 1.63m while China's national average for females is 1.58m. Not much of a difference in height. Now, I took into consideration that you are from the Philippines which has a male average height of 1.63m... I'm going to assume since you think western women are all so incredibly tall because you fall short of your national average height.

Lastly, skeletal structure? You mean small bones, correct? This is from poor bone density. If you can touch your smallest finger to your thumb around your wrist you are at a greater risk of osteoporosis..

Why not just accept that people come in various colours, shapes and sizes and we're all beautiful in the eyes of someone.

LOL american done more plastic surgery than entire asia region
the cost of plastic surgeries in asia probably less than in United States, but most average asian can't afford them.

for average american, the cost of plastic surgeries = less than a month of salary, while it cost more than a year of salary for average asian

also plastic/cosmetic surgery in US is more extreme compare to asian, it involves cutting and reshaping your bone structure like cutting and reshaping your jaw line

[rockcrazyboy]

he thinks a woman's only value lies in her virginity and that they are damaged goods if they lose it before marraige

You're wrong and you know it. It's not my own personal belief. I got it from my ancestors. Actually, I never even said the stuff that you're inferring to right now. I am promoting the virtue of virginity in BOTH man and woman. Unmarried Sex is what I'm against. And I don't need to give reasons for that, you all know it way too much already.

In fact, I care about virginity in the way it affects the person's mentality. I've said this in countless threats and you've read them. Why you've decided not to retaliate and try to correct me is beyond me.

What I'm doing is enforcing Asian culture. If you're unhappy with it, so be it. Don't try to ruin our people with your corrupt Western thoughts.

[rockcrazyboy]

This isn't just hypocritical, it's extremely inaccurate. First, I'd like to say I have no problem with plastic surgery. It's a personal decision, and if it makes someone happier about themselves then great. LOTS of asian women undergo plastic surgery, but maybe you just aren't aware of it. It's highly likely that more asian women undergo plastic surgery than in "western" countries, because the cost is much cheaper than in the west. Most common surgery is probably the eyelids to create the double lid, second would probably be silicone implant in the nose to create a taller nose -not just in korea! I have plenty of friends from Taiwan and Thailand doing these surgeries.

Secondly, "amazon" from the west? I guess you aren't aware that the national average height for women in Canada(my home country) in 1.63m while China's national average for females is 1.58m. Not much of a difference in height. Now, I took into consideration that you are from the Philippines which has a male average height of 1.63m... I'm going to assume since you think western women are all so incredibly tall because you fall short of your national average height.

Lastly, skeletal structure? You mean small bones, correct? This is from poor bone density. If you can touch your smallest finger to your thumb around your wrist you are at a greater risk of osteoporosis..

Why not just accept that people come in various colours, shapes and sizes and we're all beautiful in the eyes of someone.

I don't know and I'm not in any position to disagree if you live in your "fairy-tale" part of the world. But I happen to have friends who had plastic surgery and suffered its side-effects.

Check your eyes, because my info says right there that I'm from Myanmar, which is a lot different from Philippines. I have no problems with Asians in particular but I majored in Western Hypocrisy in College so forgive me if I know a lot of bad things about people from the West and tend to hate them.

I do accept that people are differently beauteous in each others' eyes. I just don't wanna accept that throughout all of history, Western people have always thought that they're better than Asians. So I try to point out some contradictory points in their concern.

It's time for Eastern Domination, people!

[dinicthus]

I think you will see the whole "pale is beautiful" thing from thousands-of-years-old art from Asia.

It sure ain't a product of G.I.s knocking up Asian women.

[dinicthus]

he thinks a woman's only value lies in her virginity and that they are damaged goods if they lose it before marraige

I guess some guys want the one indicator that shows a woman hasn't been with anyone else. After that's gone, whether it's been one guy or ten million, there is no way to tell. I guess many men are just not really naturally attracted to women who are statistically more likely to be a walking disease vector, and are not interested in promiscuity on their own part, either.

[rockcrazyboy]

I guess some guys want the one indicator that shows a woman hasn't been with anyone else. After that's gone, whether it's been one guy or ten million, there is no way to tell. I guess many men are just not really naturally attracted to women who are statistically more likely to be a walking disease vector, and are not interested in promiscuity on their own part, either.

That's one way of pointing out why virginity is important to everyone; the diseases! But it's not fair that only women have such indicator. Men should have such thing too, so that women can know if a guy's virgin or not.

If everyone omits himself/herself from unmarried sex, then there would not be any Sexually Transmitted Diseases or unwanted pregnancies/abandoned babies.

[LiZhuoShi]

It's called "compensating".

We all look for the things we dont have. Westerners love the "typical" asian looks because their traits are uncommon to them. Asians love asians with western characteristics or whites because we dont get that too often.

Forget blacks, arabs and indians, they dont exist.

However, I am loved by both asian / western wimmiz.

[yonip]

i get what ur saying and it's funny because when we show pics of asians that look like different from what is generalized in the media people accuse us of hating ourselves and trying to change our looks comon now that person is narrow minded because asians r diverse

just like how many other asians think some filipino's arent asian just because they dont look like from china

This post has been edited by yonip: Dec 23 2011, 01:41 AM