eyelid job (blepharoplasty), eyelid job (blepharoplasty) Options

[hanna]

hello!!

i want to do an eyelid job.
because i´m tired of people asking me why i´m so angry or tired.
i´m usually not angry or tired when they ask...
it´s just the way i look like.

but now i want to do it. a blepharoplasty.
that opens my eye a little bit more.
has anyone done it here?

i´m adopted from korea, so i want to do it in korea.

does anyone know a good place to do it?
how much will it cost?

tell me everything!!!


dutty rock

[Iron Chef Oi]

I dont know how much it would cost in Korea, but my bro had a recent eyelid operation because his eyelashes grew in funny and severely scratched his cornea (the outer covering of the eye) causing some irritation and blurriness in vision. But since my parents work for the government, they get really good insurance and only had to pay a small deductible since it was a medically needed surgery. In your case, your insurance would value this as a cosmetic procedure and may only minimally cover the costs. There are a lot of Asian surgeons who do specialize in this field in America.

[hanna]

hello again!!

naah...
you´re right. the operation i will have to pay myself. because it´s not really medically needed.

i´m gonna do the blepharoplasty i korea. so if anyone knows a good place in korea to do it, let me know!
or if you already have done it, mail me please.
i have so many questions.
or if you too are thinking about having a blepharoplasty in korea?
should we do it together?

i have mailed some clinics that i found on the internet and asked about the costs.
but my experians says that they are not gonna answer...

i also found out on the web that there are some very good people in the us who can do a blepharoplasty job.

but i want to do it in korea.
because then i can see my homecountry on the same time!!
even if it´s only a couple of days before i go into pain after the blepharoplasty.

i am a 23 years old female.
i was adopted from korea when i was a child, and was brought to a familie in sweden where i still live.


well let me know!!



and, Iron Chef Oi- did your brother like his look after? was he in pain?

This post has been edited by hanna: Oct 17 2003, 03:25 PM

[Ek-ek]

If you have the money and could afford it then why not?

[hanna]

well i don´t have the money right now. and even if i had, there would be some hevy planing to do.

i was thinking about going to korea in the beginning of the summer or just after...


see ya!!

[Iron Chef Oi]

Hanna,

No, he wasn't in terrible pain. They had to cover his eyes with a gel to protect the incisions from infection. So I believe you will be rather poorly sighted for a while because you need to apply the gel on about every 8 hours or so for a few weeks. That gel speeds up the healing process as well. He was awake for the whole surgery so he actually got to watch the doctor perform the whole thing. They just applied a local anesthetic so his eye lid was numb. The only thing you really have to worry about is not moving your eyelid a lot and accidentally rubbing your eyes. That seemed to be about all he had to worry about. Well, that and the gel.

[JMAC]

Seriously, if its not posing any health hazards to your eyes or hindering your vision, why do it? Im disturb that so many asian women in asia are doing blepharoplasty or double eyelid surgery because they want to look "beautiful". Beautiful to what standards? By caucasian standards? This is like skin bleaching for darker people. In my opinion its pathetic and it makes me sick.

Hey Im asian too and I get the you look tired questions.

I remember one of my black friends when he used to live in a white only town that one kid (6 yrs old) was right beside him at a some mall and the kid ask his mom why my friends skin is burnt. Well its understandable the kid actually never saw a black person before but it was shocking to my friend.

You could do whatever you want hanna just plan it well.

[aznboi]

I'm not sure what to say. I believe it's anyones choice as to whether they anything done or not but I think your taking an unnecessary risk. Those types of procedures are relatively safe. It's basically taking away the fat on top of the lid to give it more definition. The surgeon will make an incision around the eyelid so that scarring will be minimal.

I've been asked before why I look so pissed off when I wasn't even feeling that way. To get that type of procedure done for that reason though isn't something I would do. I believe in reconstructive surgery but I think in your case it's purely cosmetic.

I'm sure there are very capable surgeons and doctors in Korea but I think it would be a mistake to get it done there.

1) You'll ruin a perfectly good trip because half the time you'll be recovering

2) If anything goes wrong you won't be able to communicate if the need arises. Unless your already fluent in Korean but you said you were adopted so I'm not sure what your situation is...

3) With a procedure like that you won't need to stay overnight. However, if your over there you might have to unless you can arrange for transportation back to where your staying. That might cost you as well.

That gel stuff Chef was talking about. I assume it's Polysporin. More then likely you'd be given something like that. They'd probably wrap or bandage your eyes up with gauze for at least 24 hours (that's why you might have to stay overnight). Personally if your going to do it...well good luck and hope it goes well but I hope you think twice about it.

[puCcaPigEe^]

Seriously, if its not posing any health hazards to your eyes or hindering your vision, why do it? Im disturb that so many asian women in asia are doing blepharoplasty or double eyelid surgery because they want to look "beautiful". Beautiful to what standards? By caucasian standards? This is like skin bleaching for darker people. In my opinion its pathetic and it makes me sick.

I wonder this too....I guess it's people choices and preferences and it boosts their confidence. thats a good thing. people can do what they want...as long as it doesn't harm themselves or others then you don't need to worry/think about it. they have their life I have mine. I'm ugly I don't want to be beautiful and I like my values. anyway the world seems to evolve around beauty but hey, can't change that, nor can you change other craps in life as well....

I remember one of my black friends when he used to live in a white only town that one kid (6 yrs old) was right beside him at a some mall and the kid ask his mom why my friends skin is burnt. Well its understandable the kid actually never saw a black person before but it was shocking to my friend.

children are innocent. as long as there is a racist someone in this world, I think there is a racist environment for a racist someone to learn it. attitudes are learnt, not given. I've heard of an ex-White supremist case before. lets be optimistic and learn the good values. Peace.

Sorry hanna for polluting your topic. good luck with everything.

[hanna]

yo!!

i contacted a clinic in korea by mail some time ago.
in about 2 days later, i got contacted back.
i was so happy, because i didn´t think they were.
i contacted several clinics in korea that i found on the internet.
but only this clinic to this day, have contacted me back!!

the clinic that contacted me back was bkclinic.com.

they told me how much i could expect the blepharoplasty would go on, and they also told me that all the surgeons speakt fluent english.

he told me that he could recommend hotells to me where i could stay in when i visit korea.
and he said that after the surgeon i could stay at the admission room for charge free as long as i need to.

it is to this clinic that i´m gonna go to.

and please people, i don´t do this "operation" to make me look more like my swedish friends.
i do this just to make my eyes a little bit bigger. so i don´t look so pissed. so people don´t have to be afraid of taking contact with me...special at my job.

and personal i´m fu-king tired of seeing my face in the mirror. i always look so mad.

i will ask them to make my eyes so asian they can do. (i think anyone who has done it, knows what i mean)


i am so excited!!
and i am gonna plan this very well.
i also gonna take contact with a doctor here in sweden. ask them what i need to do. what i have to take with me and everything!!

[JMAC]

Well good luck hanna!

[AngelicWhispers]

Good luck!!! I know alot of girls who have had it done and they are very satisfied and happier...

[JMAC]

Good luck!!! I know alot of girls who have had it done and they are very satisfied and happier...

Not to sound like a nitpick or sarcastic but just plain curious, can you please justify the 'happier'??? Why? I just want to understand the general mentality of these girls.

[Iron Chef Oi]

Perhaps they wanted to be happier with their looks. Maybe they feel more assured and prettier with better looking eyes. There is no justification when its just personal choice and opinion.

[jae2theb]

You wouldn't believe how popular plastic surgery is in Korea. All the chicks here get their eyes done because they want an 'eyeline' which is a Konglish word meaning the line of the eyelid. In the subway, I notice almost all of the chicks sitting in the train carriage have the eyeline thing going on. In terms of genetics, a larger percent of East Asians do not naturally have this line. In an attempt to distance themselves from their Asian-ness, these chicks pay the plastic surgeon to make a small incision abouve their eye. A lot of them I notice are kinda botch jobs. The line is not very straight, very fake-looking and makes their eyes look less attractive than their original ones.

Anyway, Hanna, in Korea there are so many plastic surgeons due to the high consumer demand for them. If you have done your homework well, then your clinic should be reputable and the outcome of the surgery should be pleasing. It's much cheaper to undergo plastic surgery than, say, Japan. Many Japanese chicks come over here to have their eyes, boobs, nose, etc done.

[JMAC]

In an attempt to distance themselves from their Asian-ness...

Well thats sad....

How could anyone tell if someone's eyeline is natural or surgery?

[cat000]

You can tell if a girl has had the eyeline surgery when she looks down. There is a defined line that goes across her eyelid where the surgery took place. For people who have a natural line there, it disappears when they look down. That's how you tell!

But sometimes the surgeries are very well done that you cannot really tell. If this is the case, ask her/him for pictures from their childhood! haha

[happydays]

Seriously, if its not posing any health hazards to your eyes or hindering your vision, why do it? Im disturb that so many asian women in asia are doing blepharoplasty or double eyelid surgery because they want to look "beautiful". Beautiful to what standards? By caucasian standards? This is like skin bleaching for darker people. In my opinion its pathetic and it makes me sick.

I wonder this too....I guess it's people choices and preferences and it boosts their confidence. thats a good thing. people can do what they want...as long as it doesn't harm themselves or others then you don't need to worry/think about it. they have their life I have mine. I'm ugly I don't want to be beautiful and I like my values. anyway the world seems to evolve around beauty but hey, can't change that, nor can you change other craps in life as well....

No, what individuals do matters! We're all just individuals in a massive population, therefore, if all of us do something it will dramatically influence the rest.


Plastic surgery sounds innocent, but look at the underlying implications. Why do you think that there is standardized beauty? What does this say about our society?


There are social injustices that exists in all forms. The injustice toward people of a particular look is progressively visible from the increase in the number of blepharoplasty surgeries performed annually. The idea of beauty from an asian perspective is becoming what they are not. Asians are born with different physical adaptations and these are our natural features. Having these features should not imply that you're born with a disability that must be fixed. We have to understand that we're not ugly--this is what asians are supposed to look like. We must not standardize beauty. By making beauty an ideal not obtainable naturally in the asian population, we are putting an entire race of ppl under oppression, and that's a social injustice that must be overcame.


Another implication of cosmetic plastic surgery is the lack of emphasis on features that will truely contribute positively in society. What kind of message does "cutting yourself to look a particular way" send to our children? To our younger generation? to our peers and ppl of other races? We have to focus our energy on such values as selflessness, generosity, kindness and compassion. These are the things that we should really value and devote our energy and money to.


About plastic surgeons -- sure cosmetic surgery has made the job very lucrative, but it has changed the meaning of plastic surgery. There are too many underpriviledge adults and children in the world with incurable skin diseases that need surgery to remove and insure survival. Hence, we need plastic surgeons to spend their time helping those unfortunate people rather than prolonging a social injustice.



Bottom line is: please don't contribute to racism and social ostricism. By getting surgery, you're worsing the situation; you're prolonging the idea that eyes from a particular race (asians) are not beautiful, that this feature is "inferior" to the caucasian look, which is not true. The double-eyelid is a rare occurance among Asians; getting it would mean eliminating your dominant Asian characteristic. if you want to look "as asian as possible" then don't get it.

Just smile more and ppl won't think you're angry all the time. like me!

This post has been edited by happydays: Mar 13 2004, 09:14 PM

[Chronowolf]

Bottom line is: please don't contribute to racism and social ostricism. By getting surgery, you're worsing the situation; you're prolonging the idea that eyes from a particular race (asians) are not beautiful, that this feature is "inferior" to the caucasian look, which is not true.

That was an awesome way to put things. It's true, I feel the same way. Asian eyes are beautiful anyway

[Cevilgenius]

Yes, I'll say what I always do to everyone else who complains about a certain cosmetic feature. You are who you are. Never forget that, never change that. You are beautiful in your own way.

-Norm