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Both Sides already have enough weapons to cause big damages, It's all about who could withstand severe suffering..
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post Mar 27 2007, 10:01 PM
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Are the soldiers willing lose their lives?
Are the civilians willling to go back to the poor days /w the economic and civilian structures being destroyed?
Being homeless and no food.

Who can go back and live the poor good old days ?

I think those questions are more real and pertinent than meanless talk adding this piece and that piece of
weapons, they are redundant. Both sides already have enough weapons to cause great harms.

In this case, I believe the chineses have an upper hand at this. Many of them are poor before so they could go back and live that style ..


I believe alot of hard-core revolutionary chinese military leaders have this type of thinking.

If they can't have taiwan, then at least they going destroy it, so nobody else can have it.
They don't mind their homeland got damaged also.


That's Mao style -trained hardcore type of thoughts.

Even the help of US and Japan, Taiwanese will not able protect their infrastructures, but probably can
prevent the chinese from landing.

/W everything pretty much destroyed in the island. If taiwaneses still want to be independent, then probably
they could. They finally have earned it.
ANd it will take 50 to 60 years to rebuild taiwan to the point where it is today.
















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post Mar 29 2007, 04:31 PM
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lilizz,
It is ok that you are too afraid to debate me, since my knowledge of politics is much superior to yours.
You see, I don't need to beat up and debate someone much smaller than myself to feed my own ego. I am very different from people like you and china. You and china need to attack smaller countries to make yourself look big. Yes, you do have a little man complex.
Here are the facts.
I will try to find that article for you from defence news .com . Taiwan has already developed cruise missles that performed better than the ones russia sold to china. Yes, it will be a shock and awe when china's targets are destroyed.
In 1996, I was in Taiwan, when the china shot missles across Taiwan. My military friends told me, the US gave Taiwan 2 dozen nukes. My opinion is that, Taiwan don't want to brag that taiwan have access to nuke weapons, because taiwan don't want to escalate cross strait tensions. Only during war, will Taiwan bring out their REAL arsnals.
Do you think, a modern high tech country is that defenseless?? Do you think countries like japan, s korea, and taiwan don't have nukes? Com mon, even pakistan have nukes.
Go to yahoo, and type in US military build up in the pacific. You will be "shocked and awed."

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Taiwan Develop a Cruise Missile Which Can Strike Mainland's Coastal Area Within Range


(Beijing, Yonhap News) correspondent Cho Sung-dae -- Taiwan completed the operational testing & evaluation (OT&E) of 'Hsiung-feng 2E' cruise missile, which has Eastern coast of China within its range, and gears up for its mass production and deployment, according to July 4th issue of Wen-hui-bao in Hong Kong.

It reports that, at the end of the last month(June, 2005,) Taiwan's Zhong-shan Science Institute completed OT&E of Hsiung-feng 2E at Jiu-peng base, Ping-dong. OT&E is to test an weapon system in a battlefield condition and evaluate its result in order to determine its operational efficiency and feasibility.

Hsiung-feng 2E, a subsonic attack missile, is the upgraded version of ship-to-ship missile Hsiung-feng 2 whose range is 150 km(93.2 mile.) It has the range of 500km(310.7 mile,) which has provinces, cities, and major military targets in Chinese east coast within its effective range .

In recent OT&E, it successfully hit a target 500km away, and it can hit within 12m(39.4 ft) radius of the target. They planned to extend its effective range to 1,000km(621.4 mile,) which makes it a major threat to the mainland(China.)

Hsiung-feng 2E will be deployed to the Air defense Command directly under Staffs Headquarter, which is equivalent to China's 2nd Artillery Corps (missile units.)



lilizz
I will tell you what I think about you..
Young people should be more involved in organizations like prevention of global warming, preventing cancer, joining organizations like anti smoking groups. Something that is more productive to society and country.
But, instead, you are promoting war and hate. You remind me of youth groups that served emperor Hiroto of japan in WWII. And you remind me of the Hitler's youth groups, they ran around and hated Jews.
You are a pathetic character. You are a filthy racist. I am quite disgusted by your posts.
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post Mar 29 2007, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(vinnie @ Mar 29 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]2824047[/snapback]

lilizz,
Taiwan Develop a Cruise Missile Which Can Strike Mainland's Coastal Area Within Range
(Beijing, Yonhap News)

Hsiung-feng 2E, a subsonic attack missile, is the upgraded version of ship-to-ship missile Hsiung-feng 2

It reports that, at the end of the last month(June, 2005,) Taiwan's Zhong-shan Science Institute completed OT&E of Hsiung-feng 2E at Jiu-peng base, Ping-dong. OT&E is to test an weapon system in a battlefield condition and evaluate its result in order to determine its operational efficiency and feasibility.




You need to clear on what you wrote ,Is this a cruise missile (aka tomahawk) or anti-ship missile?
I see both terms are using concurrently.

So, it's being developed and tested by the science academy. Have fun on those science projects.
They might explode and hurt the students if not enough caution being taken.











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post Mar 29 2007, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(lilzz @ Mar 29 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]2824105[/snapback]

You need to clear on what you wrote ,Is this a cruise missile (aka tomahawk) or anti-ship missile?


HF-2 is an anti-ship missile. HF-2E is a cruise missile.

QUOTE(vinnie @ Mar 29 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]2824047[/snapback]

Do you think countries like japan, s korea, and taiwan don't have nukes? Com mon, even pakistan have nukes.


They CAN build nukes, but they don't HAVE them. There's a difference.
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post Mar 29 2007, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Red Fox Ace @ Mar 29 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]2824216[/snapback]

They CAN build nukes, but they don't HAVE them. There's a difference.


One important question needed to ask is whether US allows them to have nuke.
Japan, Taiwan, South Korea all under the wings of US.


US had nuked Japan before, you don't think US back in their mind have some reservation
that a nuclear armed Japan might revenge against them down the line.

THat's why US is very against Japan nuclear armed.
I am sure US is also against Taiwan and South Korea having nuke, because once those countries have nukes, then they might not obey US anymore.

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- lilzz   Both Sides already have enough weapons to cause big damages   Mar 27 2007, 10:01 PM
- - bigdaub   QUOTE(lilzz @ Mar 27 2007, 11:01 PM) 2820...   Mar 27 2007, 10:47 PM
- - Red Fox Ace   The destruction of war is a reason that the DPP an...   Mar 28 2007, 04:58 AM
|- - lilzz   QUOTE(Red Fox Ace @ Mar 28 2007, 04:58 AM...   Mar 28 2007, 09:57 AM
- - Red Fox Ace   Let's not forget something about the "sev...   Mar 28 2007, 09:19 AM
- - vinnie   If they can't have taiwan, then at least they ...   Mar 28 2007, 06:02 PM
|- - lilzz   Actually, I just making an exaggeration, things wi...   Mar 28 2007, 06:57 PM
- - vinnie   Actually in war, anything is possible. Only a sh...   Mar 29 2007, 03:06 PM
|- - lilzz   QUOTE(vinnie @ Mar 29 2007, 03:06 PM) 282...   Mar 29 2007, 03:48 PM
- - vinnie   Occupation of mainland china. A few months ago...   Mar 29 2007, 03:42 PM
- - vinnie   lilizz, It is ok that you are too afraid to deb...   Mar 29 2007, 04:31 PM
|- - lilzz   QUOTE(vinnie @ Mar 29 2007, 04:21 PM) 282...   Mar 29 2007, 04:36 PM
|- - Red Fox Ace   QUOTE(lilzz @ Mar 29 2007, 04:36 PM) 2824...   Mar 29 2007, 05:19 PM
|- - lilzz   QUOTE(Red Fox Ace @ Mar 29 2007, 05:19 PM...   Mar 29 2007, 05:54 PM
|- - Red Fox Ace   QUOTE(lilzz @ Mar 29 2007, 05:54 PM) 2824...   Mar 29 2007, 07:02 PM
|- - lilzz   QUOTE(Red Fox Ace @ Mar 29 2007, 07:02 PM...   Mar 29 2007, 08:00 PM
- - vinnie   lilizz, this news was back from 2005. few month...   Mar 30 2007, 04:17 PM
|- - Red Fox Ace   QUOTE(vinnie @ Mar 30 2007, 04:17 PM) 282...   Mar 30 2007, 08:08 PM
|- - lilzz   well, yackyat, aka vinnie the bottomline is for c...   Mar 31 2007, 10:17 AM
- - vinnie   hey lilizz, read the other post on Taiwan...   Mar 30 2007, 04:36 PM
- - product_ako   China already shown its military muscles a few mon...   Mar 31 2007, 11:00 AM


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