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[yiersan]

Taiwan problem in essence is an racial question

By Richard YOung

Ladies and Gentleman , brethren of Han , my dear Chinese brothers . Let us understand one thing at first . Taiwan historically always is a integral part of Han people’s China . Taiwanese racially and culturally are the descend from ancient Han people from China . We are sharing the same custom , blood tie , language uniquely unto ourself.



The real cause which hitherto separate us is originated from our racial enemy , the Manchu , a tartar breed . Who betrayed Taiwan to Japanese , when Manchurian had wrote off a fiasco in the war with Japan , that has unhinge the Manchu in the state of trepidation . Thus the abject Manchu cowards had committed the most unsavoury ignominy in the Asia history . The signing of Ma Kuan treaty , which had ceding and surrendering Taiwan into Japan empire . This the origin when Taiwan firstly depart from China , before the Manchurian rule , Taiwan has always being a integral part of Chinese empire ruled by indomitable Han race .



After Han people revolution lead by nationalist party to rise up and overthrown the Manchu dynasty , thus politicly , the Manchu had been defeated , but that doesn’t mean that the Manchurian are without influence in today’s China . Culturally , our Han race has yet not revived after hundred years of barbaric vandalism which stemming from Manchu’s heinous racial assimilation program. Watch today’s TV program , that so called Chinese culture are uniquely Manchu style , mainly consist on churlish extravaganza which flaunts the dark side of humanity and glorify obsequiousness . Under such degenerated influence , the Han race had lost his formal pride and self-confidence .



The infamous popular Chinese dance of two human rotating ( 二人转) And the Yange dance ( 扭秧歌) are uniquely Manchu , but the real Chinese culture which descended from our Han race thus is almost being forgotten due to Manchu suppression . One has to visit Japan in order to get a glimpse what real Han civilisation is all about . The ingredient which constitute the concept of race is it’s ethnic uniqueness , namely the ethnic culture . The disappearance of Han culture in mainland China today will ultimately end our Han people as an race .



To the extent that the will for self-assertion begins to stir and move, the chains which hold us down become perceptible. This experience is necessary so that our creative powers are flexed and finally cast off these chains. Our ultimate goal is emancipate from the yoke exerted from soul destroying Manchurian repression , the resuscitation of Han culture is already flaring up in Mainland ( I’ve read from internet ) , although it is in a state of gestation , but destined to triumph , for this , will win back the heart of twenty million Han brethren from Taiwan , thus embrace unification with our hearts .



One reason Taiwanese does not wish to embrace unification is because the Manchu , who has keeping woven soul destroying ropes on our necks , with hostile intention of stealing Han people’s experience of self-worth , and thus destroy Han civilisation for ever . The resuscitation of Han civilisation also implies the exorcise the Manchurian repression which ultimately going to unite Han brethrens from mainland and Taiwan together and restore our Han’s utopia .



The first racial revolution lead by nationalist was on a political realm , sure it was a victory , it had overthrown Manchu rule , but it was nevertheless was incomplete , it has not fully restore our Han people as race in a real sense , thus , the second racial revolution is gestating which target on a spiritual realm as to exorcise Manchu influence and fully restore our Han civilisation , the triumph of Han culture will helping a united China regain his formal pride and majestic temperament and render the feeling of awe and admiration around other Asian country .



Our Han people’s mission is resurrect from the shackle which enforced upon us in a spiritual realm , who ever feels like bemoan this , may sing a lament for it , but to want hinder it is foolishness and an offence against Guardian spirit of history, because Han culture carries progressive element which glorify the best part of humanity , namely love and willingness for devotion . Surely our enemy Manchu will attempt to thwart our success by shooting poisonous arrow from behind the curtain , if we unable to prevent Manchu further infiltration , the dark shroud of new barbarian era will enfold east .



Taiwanese are authentic Han descendent , you can’t induce them to embrace Manchu or Mongolian , since they are alien race . Restore Han civilisation would enhance mainland’s visage amount the heart of Taiwanese who formally oppose to unification with mainland China , since they don’t recognize the Manchurian China as an real China . Thus I like to finally draw a sound conclusion that Taiwan problem in essence is a racial question .

[Type98G]

Taiwan problem in essence is an racial question

By Richard YOung

Ladies and Gentleman , brethren of Han , my dear Chinese brothers . Let us understand one thing at first . Taiwan historically always is a integral part of Han people’s China . Taiwanese racially and culturally are the descend from ancient Han people from China . We are sharing the same custom , blood tie , language uniquely unto ourself.
The real cause which hitherto separate us is originated from our racial enemy , the Manchu , a tartar breed . Who betrayed Taiwan to Japanese , when Manchurian had wrote off a fiasco in the war with Japan , that has unhinge the Manchu in the state of trepidation . Thus the abject Manchu cowards had committed the most unsavoury ignominy in the Asia history . The signing of Ma Kuan treaty , which had ceding and surrendering Taiwan into Japan empire . This the origin when Taiwan firstly depart from China , before the Manchurian rule , Taiwan has always being a integral part of Chinese empire ruled by indomitable Han race .
After Han people revolution lead by nationalist party to rise up and overthrown the Manchu dynasty , thus politicly , the Manchu had been defeated , but that doesn’t mean that the Manchurian are without influence in today’s China . Culturally , our Han race has yet not revived after hundred years of barbaric vandalism which stemming from Manchu’s heinous racial assimilation program. Watch today’s TV program , that so called Chinese culture are uniquely Manchu style , mainly consist on churlish extravaganza which flaunts the dark side of humanity and glorify obsequiousness . Under such degenerated influence , the Han race had lost his formal pride and self-confidence .
The infamous popular Chinese dance of two human rotating ( 二人转) And the Yange dance ( 扭秧歌) are uniquely Manchu , but the real Chinese culture which descended from our Han race thus is almost being forgotten due to Manchu suppression . One has to visit Japan in order to get a glimpse what real Han civilisation is all about . The ingredient which constitute the concept of race is it’s ethnic uniqueness , namely the ethnic culture . The disappearance of Han culture in mainland China today will ultimately end our Han people as an race .
To the extent that the will for self-assertion begins to stir and move, the chains which hold us down become perceptible. This experience is necessary so that our creative powers are flexed and finally cast off these chains. Our ultimate goal is emancipate from the yoke exerted from soul destroying Manchurian repression , the resuscitation of Han culture is already flaring up in Mainland ( I’ve read from internet ) , although it is in a state of gestation , but destined to triumph , for this , will win back the heart of twenty million Han brethren from Taiwan , thus embrace unification with our hearts .
One reason Taiwanese does not wish to embrace unification is because the Manchu , who has keeping woven soul destroying ropes on our necks , with hostile intention of stealing Han people’s experience of self-worth , and thus destroy Han civilisation for ever . The resuscitation of Han civilisation also implies the exorcise the Manchurian repression which ultimately going to unite Han brethrens from mainland and Taiwan together and restore our Han’s utopia .
The first racial revolution lead by nationalist was on a political realm , sure it was a victory , it had overthrown Manchu rule , but it was nevertheless was incomplete , it has not fully restore our Han people as race in a real sense , thus , the second racial revolution is gestating which target on a spiritual realm as to exorcise Manchu influence and fully restore our Han civilisation , the triumph of Han culture will helping a united China regain his formal pride and majestic temperament and render the feeling of awe and admiration around other Asian country .
Our Han people’s mission is resurrect from the shackle which enforced upon us in a spiritual realm , who ever feels like bemoan this , may sing a lament for it , but to want hinder it is foolishness and an offence against Guardian spirit of history, because Han culture carries progressive element which glorify the best part of humanity , namely love and willingness for devotion . Surely our enemy Manchu will attempt to thwart our success by shooting poisonous arrow from behind the curtain , if we unable to prevent Manchu further infiltration , the dark shroud of new barbarian era will enfold east .
Taiwanese are authentic Han descendent , you can’t induce them to embrace Manchu or Mongolian , since they are alien race . Restore Han civilisation would enhance mainland’s visage amount the heart of Taiwanese who formally oppose to unification with mainland China , since they don’t recognize the Manchurian China as an real China . Thus I like to finally draw a sound conclusion that Taiwan problem in essence is a racial question .

A Han supremacy speaking, he is lucky he is in Taiwan.

[Red Fox Ace]

No, the Taiwan problem has nothing to do with race.


Think of a simple psychological experiment: If you allow Taiwanese people to govern themselves for 60 years (since end of WWII,) if you feed them a constant stream of news about how China points 900 missiles at Taiwan and will invade Taiwan if Taiwan becomes independent, don't you think that the Taiwanese people will feel little loyalty towards China?

[Ecthelion]

No, the Taiwan problem has nothing to do with race.
Think of a simple psychological experiment: If you allow Taiwanese people to govern themselves for 60 years (since end of WWII,) if you feed them a constant stream of news about how China points 900 missiles at Taiwan and will invade Taiwan if Taiwan becomes independent, don't you think that the Taiwanese people will feel little loyalty towards China?

That's not how the Chinese mindset works bud. Chinese people are the not the sort of idiots to make heroic last stands, leave that to the Spartans.

The one and only reason that the Taiwanese have the cajones to do anything other than kowtow and kiss the arses of every official in Beijing is: the US and the 7th Fleet.

As long as that little barrier is there, the Taiwanese will continue to shoot their mouths off about high-brow political arguements as why or why not their Chinese or how they should unify with Japan or what not.

We'd love to believe that we are motivated by high-brow political causes, fighting communism, perserving democracy and what not. But we all know in the end it's a matter of who has the bigger guns and who kow tows under those guns.

[vinnie]

Ethelicon, you are Wrong again!
What is the point of unifiying??
yes, what is the point of unifying with your ex wife, who you had a bitter divorce battle and she took your house , car and kids? What is the point of unifying with your ex girlfriend who cheated on you and gave your herpes.?
Why do you want to unify isreal with arabs? Why do you want to unify india and pakistan?
They are only going to kill each other. They hate each other to the bone. This is a fact!
So, why do you want to unify two separate countries of Taiwan and china who hate each other to the bone? do you want to see fighting everyday? What will this accomplish? therefore, there is no common sense here.
Yes, the US 7th fleet does make some difference. But, not alot. Because, what would you accomplish if you tried to occupy the foreign country of Taiwan?? How long do you think you can hang on to Taiwan??
Just like the US in iraq, how long do you think the US can occupy iraq? Yes, why don't you send your PLA to iraq and try to occupy iraq, and see if you can do it. I seriously doubt it though!
So, please get real here. Trying to occupy a foreign country? What will this accomplish?

[Red Fox Ace]

Be quiet please Vinnie.

[product_ako]

I prefer to call it "sub-ethnic group" instead of "race."
But the tension on Taiwan is really between the WSR and Minnan BSR, which are both Han groups, as the DPP likes to frame the issue each election cycle.

The rest of the article about the Manchu and Han is interesting. But really doesn't describe the issue on Taiwan properly. It read like a bad Wuxia novel. "Down with the Qin, Restore the Ming."

[MiCC]

it pointless to argue about independence and unification, confederates and the union been arguing for over years and years and still confederates force to give up their power to the unions after the civil war.

[X_Dragon]

shut the fu-k up Vinnie.

fixed

[vinnie]

it pointless to argue about independence and unification, confederates and the union been arguing for over years and years and still confederates force to give up their power to the unions after the civil war.

The confederates was members of the US congress, all along, since the beginning of the US, 200 years ago.
While Taiwan was never a part of china. It was 600 years ago , when some immegrants from fuijin moved to Taiwan from china.
going back 600 years and try to join a foreign country will not work, Since Taiwan already has an office of the presidency, a military department, a department of congress. These are the facts.

[MiCC]

The confederates was members of the US congress, all along, since the beginning of the US, 200 years ago.
While Taiwan was never a part of china. It was 600 years ago , when some immegrants from fuijin moved to Taiwan from china.
going back 600 years and try to join a foreign country will not work, Since Taiwan already has an office of the presidency, a military department, a department of congress. These are the facts.

so? still the same $hit, who cares if taiwanese aren't going to npc congress all that matters is that there are people that wants to unify and those that don't.

[Anda]

Taiwan tosses Chiang Kai-shek statues to shed authoritarian past

www.csmonitor.com/2007/0403/p07s02-woap.html

This post has been edited by Anda: Apr 4 2007, 02:17 AM

[bigdaub]

why should people of the same race be united or be of the same country? in today's world, it doesn't make any sense. by this logic, a lot of the countries in the wolrd should be disbanded.

my opinion is that excessive race unity generally leads to mindless hate. same goes with excessive national pride.

[SkyLegenD]

Taiwanese people brought up during Japan's rule have been kissing Japan's shoes and would certainly want to be ruled under Japanese dictatorship rather than democracy.

[daiwanrock]

Taiwanese people brought up during Japan's rule have been kissing Japan's shoes and would certainly want to be ruled under Japanese dictatorship rather than democracy.

another mindless pro-unification Chinese retoric.

Taiwan's status as an independent nation and the Taiwanese wish to remain separate from China have nothing to do with feelings toward Japan. I'm Taiwanese and I'm quite indifferent when it comes to Japan. While Taiwan may be a Han-based culture sharing a lot of similarities with the folks across the strait, there really is no reason for unification. What good will it really do? Not much.

Will Canadians really be that much better off being unified with the Americans?

Will Austrians really be happier being part of Germany?

Are Scandinavians suffering as separate nations of Norway, Sweden, Demark, and Iceland?

Sometimes people of similar culture are better off staying as separate countries. Taiwan and China are another good example of that. There's something to be said about a bit of friendly competition between brother nations to drive both to excel. If one INSIST on swallowing up the other, only hate and anger of the conquered will remain and lots and lots of bloodshed for no good reason.

There's absolutely no need to bring in Japan in this discussion. The reason for bringing in Japan is to stir up the anti-Japanese sentiment a lot of Chinese have within them. And by stirring that up, it drives up their hate, which makes them feel a Taiwan outside of China is almost of a personal disgrace of some sort. That is why Chinese that are pro-unification ALWAYS, ALWAYS bring up Japan when the topic of Taiwanese Independence comes up. That is their only card, and it really doesn't work anymore.