If you don't like, you can go from Malaysia, What is this ? Options

[ricochet]

I actually paraphrased this opinion from SSC, from a chinese malaysian forumer himself.....he said the fact is..many rich and upper middle class chinese(and ther companies) owe their projects to government projects and contracts..it's a mutual thing.Why do u think Malaysia keeps seeing new estate houses and skyscrapers being built all year round. If the building stops...some people will starve.

Remember that Mahathir bailed our many chinese associations and companies with a current value of RM30 billion today during the economic slumpdown in mid 1980s.....the malays not the only one with tongkats la .

Ok lor if you say so. To me, its basically looking at the average chinese itself ...they dun depend on the govt

as for the super rich....let me phrase this. Tongkat is like viagra. One supplier many users. If supplier got problem....sure many would "tolong" ma

[forrestcat]

Typical of Asian politics..the rich wins or the military.

[ricochet]

Typical of Asian politics..the rich wins or the military.

You know why govt give projects to the chinese.....its because of quality and they get more commission

Give to malay....the sub and sub and sub and sub......in the end.....nothing was done. Remember the computer project for the school.....and what was the end result

[swingdoctor]

as i said, we deal with what we can see. if he do it in secret, public don't see it and there'll be no one who's being offended or some misconception occur that the misconduct is acceptable. if he pretend to pray in mosque, it's okay with us. we take it he's really sincere regardless of what he has in his heart. a boy in school may hate the teachers, but as long as he doesn't project those hatred into physical action, it's okay for the school principal.

But Allah/God is not interested in what humans can see but what we feel on the inside. The way to heaven is not in what we do in front of other people but what we feel in our hearts. Teachers and God are not the same, at the end of the day you don't have to please your teachers. Your teachers do not know what you think or feel on the inside but, through religion you have to please God.

I believe many religious misconduct did affect the society as whole. Islam is in it's basis is a guidance for human conduct and a law unto itself.

So is every other religion, Christianity and Buddism alike. In fact Buddism is entirely about the way of life.

it has been and it will always be until the end of time. when islam was vigorously adopted, muslims have rise to it's golden ages. unlike medieval christian, Islam didn't limit the bloom of knowledge and doesn't need a reformation or renaissance or whatever.

But is religion about greatness, about power? I thought religion is about pleasing God and going to heaven.

now many moral misconduct done always at some point effect the society as a whole. have u ever heard of "degradation of moral value among youth"? now where that this come from? it came from uncontrolable freedom. this thing expand like a plague since human are a social creatures, one people doing unproper thing may influence his friend to do so. it's like a drug. once you taste it, you'll be lust for it and our point is to prevent the first taste.

I think there are many, many reasons for "moral misconduct" and of the "degradation of moral value among youth". Peer pressure will always be an issue, it has been present since the dawn of time and has nothing to do with religion. Peer pressure is about the desire to fit in. Freedom is something that should be valued and not feared, rather then hiding our children from it, we need to teach them how to deal with it. To control it and not it control them. Freedom is something all of us will eventually have as adults.

You know why govt give projects to the chinese.....its because of quality and they get more commission

Give to malay....the sub and sub and sub and sub......in the end.....nothing was done. Remember the computer project for the school.....and what was the end result

Probably because the Chinese bribe the govnt

[ricochet]

Probably because the Chinese bribe the govnt

bribe is SOP....standard operating procedure. The question is how much more can you get

[maldini]

bribe is SOP....standard operating procedure. The question is how much more can you get

that's where PR and top negotiator skills play a part...