Why Filipinos Should Hate The Usa |
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Why Filipinos Should Hate The Usa |
Jul 10 2004, 07:18 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 8-July 04 |
In 1898 the USA acquired the Philippines from Spain. The Americans thought Filipinos were too stupid to govern themselves, so they refused to give them independence. When a Filipino pro-democracy movement tried to achieve sovereignty the US crushed the independence movement and killed 50,000 Filipinos, destroying crops and killing POWs. The colonial history of the Philippines has been described as "400 years in a convent" (under Spain) followed by "50 years in a whorehouse" (under the USA). After the Philippines gained independence, the USA supported the dictator Ferdinand Marcos until 1986. Also, the Muslim terrorist groups in the Philippines such as Abu Sayyaf were created by the USA to fight the Soviets. Today, most Filipinos worship the USA like they're some sort of saviour or something. I encourage all Filipinos to hate the USA and oppose US imperialism.
This post has been edited by osirak: Jul 10 2004, 07:38 PM |
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Jul 11 2004, 12:05 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,123 Joined: 25-April 04 From: Bol-anon Repablik |
yes the filipinos should hate the americans in their hearts but hating them openly would only make the Philippines' no. 1 importer of Filipino products ignore the Philippines as a whole. Visas would be tough, dollar would be hard to find, Filipinos in the USA and other nations would further be discriminated, the already failing RP economy will tumble and democracy will fail. anarchy will prevail.
yes, we should hate the americans.. but only in our hearts. and someday, when they rely too much on Filipinos in taking care of their old and sick, when they rely too much on Filipino engineers in their navy vessels, when they rely too much on Filipino teachers, they'd realise how important Filipinos are a part of their lives. someday, we can proudly tell them that we can live without you, but you can't live without us. well.. so much for a dream. back to reality. the philippines badly needs the US. |
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Jul 11 2004, 12:10 AM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 10,593 Joined: 6-March 04 |
what is thisabout abu sayaff is created by the americans....
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Jul 12 2004, 02:20 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,493 Joined: 26-February 04 From: Detroit's West Side. USA |
You guys just only hate them but you guys cant touch any thing on them! So?? Why do you guys have to hate them for nothing??? The USA is a greatest democrat country, he like to support, provide, aid and contribute all thing to the poorest countries and weakness and he helps us to prostrate the rouge dictator regime...You guys Filips should ally to them incase some day, the neighbor invade your country, then he will stop that neighbor...
This post has been edited by RockHeart: Jul 12 2004, 02:21 PM |
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Jul 12 2004, 02:24 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 26-June 04 From: U.K. |
This is nonsense, the USA hasn't done everything right but I think they are a LOT better than the alternative.
If we are going to hate every country because of it's history then Germany would be hated by virtually all of Europe, it's because of setting these differences aside that Europe has grown again. I see NO reason to "Hate" the USA. Perhaps dislike, disagree... NOT HATE |
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Jul 12 2004, 04:35 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 17,885 Joined: 12-June 04 From: Hawai'i |
i don't think anybody should encourage hate no matter whatever bad it is.
but for me past is the past, no one should be living only with the hurt of the past or nobody will benefit in the future. i know you dislike the us because of what the palestinian affair, but you don't need to push hatred to people, hatred don't breed anything but hatred. if you think you could recruit us haters, sorry but hatred will do nobody good, i think people should work for the betterment of the future. |
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Oct 7 2004, 11:09 AM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 9-September 04 |
Do you know the fact that Asia still has a country
people can not speak free opinions ? In North Korea , If someone try to against to KIM JON IL , the one must killed by gorverment. But American common sense and my common sense are the same. at democracy . I think all filipino also same. Ofcause , like Police is holding gun for fighting criminals. Police is under control of gerverment. and Gerverment is selected by people. but speaking suggestion to goverment is not criminal. Using bomb is criminal. Attack building by airplane is criminal. Japan stoped war immidiately the time of Atomic-bomb, if japan did not stop it after Atomic-bomb ... All Japanese are obus na now. But Japan and Iraq are different. Iraq people believe go heaven if die to the war. Iraq people educated "Kill American so Go heavn" They Iraq do not give up even no hope to win. Masakit ulo din,, obus pera din ,, America... That's Why Japan is following to America , I think America is just better than dictatorial countries . Hoping Philippines, Taiwan, Korea(except Kimjonil) ,Japan ... We asian democracy people need tie to America and keeping peace here Asia. against dictatorism . = This is my opinion. |
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Oct 7 2004, 11:13 AM
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AF Guru Group: Banned Posts: 4,875 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Woodbridge, Virginia |
Phillipines does have the strongest relations with America then any other Asian country. Going back all the way to WWII. KAZU, your Japanese right?
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Oct 7 2004, 11:57 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 9-September 04 |
>>>>> Phillipines does have the strongest relations
==== Not only Philippines. !! >>>>>> Going back all the way to WWII ==== Diba Never >>>>>> KAZU, your Japanese right? ==== I love this Philippines because I live here with my wife mabait . |
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Oct 12 2004, 08:32 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,123 Joined: 25-April 04 From: Bol-anon Repablik |
we really shouldn't hate people and stereotype even the US. the US is merely friendly to the Philippines because we are of good interest to them. We were their last bastion of defense during WWII. The Philippines served as a buffer zone for Asia and the West on this side of the world. well, Japan does too but Japanese people were never really conquered totally by another nation to mold them into the US's culture.
in PI's case, well, idol natin lahat foreign so no question on who's the greater buffer zone.. ^_^ |
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Oct 15 2004, 06:21 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: 10-July 04 |
Hate those americans!!!! Love their dollars!!!! hahaha...
well, thats a fact.. most filipinos search for greener pasture in the US. btw, we should consider the good things that the americans did for us and not only focus on their faults.. smoke weed and spread the words love and peace!!! |
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Nov 29 2004, 08:15 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,539 Joined: 12-June 04 From: France |
Let us say it in this sarcastic way:
"a living whore can still enjoy to be sodomized, but what can a starving or a dead hero do?" |
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Apr 13 2005, 08:17 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 9-March 05 |
QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Jul 12 2004, 04:35 PM) i don't think anybody should encourage hate no matter whatever bad it is. but for me past is the past, no one should be living only with the hurt of the past or nobody will benefit in the future. i know you dislike the us because of what the palestinian affair, but you don't need to push hatred to people, hatred don't breed anything but hatred. if you think you could recruit us haters, sorry but hatred will do nobody good, i think people should work for the betterment of the future. exactly..Hate should never be promoted..in any forums,nor a punch line to a stand of comedy show..etc..etc..etc.. my reply to hate only in your heart..well what you hold in you heart will always find a way be let out of the cocoon its hinding from..it will reflect on your character..judgements etc..etc.. when you hate, it's due IGNORANCE..lack of understaning and openess..for some plain, JEALOUSY REMEMBER"HATE IS IGNORANCE"..learn from it.. stop the hating and start loving peace out! let me add another 2 cents..hate the americans..then why the PUTA are we all speaking in english..go figure ey...magandang araw na lang po sa lahat ng manunulat sa thread na ito..make love not war..pasensya na po sa aking minsahe..maraming salamat sa inyong lahat let me add another thing..don't hate when you lack of understanding.. oh well that's human nature we tend to hate what we can't comrehend about the history correct me if im wrong..when Americans lend a helping hand to the Philippines during war..they gave back our land..they didn't own it unlike some other countries..they gave us tanks armors etc..etc..don't only remember the bad shi*'s but also the good sh*t. This post has been edited by tropical_beauty: Apr 13 2005, 10:00 PM |
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Apr 15 2005, 12:52 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 26-May 04 From: TheLandofFilipinoHeroes |
QUOTE (osirak @ Jul 10 2004, 07:18 PM) who the hell in earth had given you the authority to encourage filipinos to hate the americans huh? remember, don't repay evil for evil, wait for the Lord to handle the matter. hehe. peace! This post has been edited by ghanie: Apr 15 2005, 02:41 AM |
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Apr 24 2005, 02:05 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 19-April 05 From: Chi-Town |
Dude, that’s a long time ago. I read in other Philippine history books and Marine Corps books about what US troops did to Filipinos in the Philippine American, that they killed 200,000 Filipinos, many of them were still boys like 14 to 18 years of age. I read that a common slogan for American troops in the “Pilippine-American War” was “Killing Filipinos was a ni&&er killing business.” But do I hate the USA? Not at all. My grandfather served in WW2 as an army medic as did his brothers served also. One of them died in combat in the Pacific. They’re one of many Filipino Americans here in the US that served since the American Civil War. Some of my uncles served in the Navy and Army in the 1960s through early 1980’s and my younger cousins will be joining the Navy and Marine Corps after high school. So I’m pretty sure my family are proud to be an American as well as their Filipino heritage. They fly the American flag often in front of their houses. This country has given a lot to my family and to my ancestral homeland in WW2 and post WW2. They’ve helped many other countries as well read these two articles about America.
“America the Good Neighbor” “Why I like Americans” We’re not like in other regions of the world where hate beget hate begets violence begets petty revenge. We are mostly a Christian and forgiving people. I should not hate modern Anglo-Celtic Americans of what their great great grandfathers did a long time ago. Preach your hate somewhere else or go to http://www.islam.com where they bash the US all the time. Anti-Americanism is the new Anti-Semitism of our time. Anti-Americanism One time when I was a kid in high school, I asked my friends who were like 1st and 2nd Generation Mexican American about what they thought what happened in the Mexican-American War in 1846 and if they hate the US for it. They said that was a long time ago and the Anglo-Americans of the time were different. They don’t hate the US at all. They love America also. This post has been edited by ronin: Apr 24 2005, 02:09 PM |
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Jan 27 2006, 03:56 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-January 06 |
um this must be really old but i wanna say something bout this...
i think it right for filipinos to hate usa i mean usa didnt allow filipinos in the treaty of paris and filipinos are still being burdened by us debt and lately how about the 5 us gis that raped the filipina girl in subic and was taken by the us embassy not giving local authority the chance to punish them and even if we do usa will always cut ties with filipinos of course theres the good things chocolates and cash... |
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Jan 28 2006, 02:07 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,709 Joined: 23-April 05 From: Gotham City |
i don't think we should hate the USA..hating them only blinds us..i think we should just be wary of them...be allert to the fact they have a long history of using the philippines...don't buy everything the US gov says as truth.
This post has been edited by TakTAk-Boy: Jan 28 2006, 02:08 PM |
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Jan 28 2006, 04:41 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,650 Joined: 20-December 04 |
We must not hold grudges that is not our way..but we must be aware of what really happened and never forgot lest history repeat itself (Iraq war = Filipino am war).
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Feb 10 2006, 04:45 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-January 06 |
its true we should look into the present but we should also look back in the past i mean white people insult every asians ... here in the philippines they said were too "UNCIVILZED" to govern our own country i mean, hell, what does uncivilzed mean does being civilized mean you have to be white buy american products create colonial mentality and being treated like dogs in the streets even though were recieving money from the ofw how about the doctors here being lured by american poison to work in the "Land of the free and the brave" hell the only reason why its called that and no country reached it is because its divided by sea i mean look closely at books americans say there always doing good saying we should be grateful yes we should be grateful for what they did in world war 2 but they did steal our culture forced us to use us products i mean heck in some history books it says that the americans single handedly defended the philippines from america and whats with the whole spying in other countries when we do that we get blown up but if they do that to us we cant do anything at all i mean one blast in there country they get shock but when its us that get blasted we pay for it
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Feb 10 2006, 08:30 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 9-January 06 |
And you guys are reading the words off a guy who thinks Osama Bin Laden is a man like Gandhi?
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