Colonial Mentality in Physical Features, (Only Filo citizens) |
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Colonial Mentality in Physical Features, (Only Filo citizens) |
Jun 7 2007, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(tangkas @ Jun 8 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]2989636[/snapback] They do favor Colombians who are Mestizo themselves of Spaniard and Native American ( Asian) descent. I do see Asian like traits in them. My point they're no better then an Aeta or a person in the squatters region. You are right in saying that all Filipinos, regardless of whether he is an Aeta or a pure Spaniard is equal. But the point is, you have been too much blunt in stating your opinion and we Filipinos practice Smooth Interpersonal Relations, which means, we don't shoot our complaints and other brouhahas to others - instead, we make it a humoristic situation or approach the problem tactfully with all guards against hurting and offending the fellow Filipino. And honestly, you're approach is too blunt. Perhaps you could ask your wife about how Filipinos approach each other. Regarding your comments about Neo-Nazis, you're right in saying that they won't be regarded as White, but I think in American, they'd be considered Hispanic though. And in all fairness to Secret Asian Man, he never claimed that he looked White or that he wanted to be called a White. You got to understand Philippine History at least a little bit - we were occupied by the Spaniards and Americans with the use of countless massacres, indoctrination, and lectures that made us and our ancesotrs feel inferior. Therefore we Filipinos have evolved to a certain level that is called Colonial Mentality, wherein a person who is being called "looking-White", or "looking-Caucasian" (whatever the term may be, Amboy, Mestizo, Tisoy, etc.) is very special, as it denotes a special kinship with the colonizer, thereby making him technically superior in the eyes of the other groups. That's why we claim being Spanish-Chinese-Filipino (not Malay, because Filipinos are Taiwanese aborigine descendants) - to avenge our wounded pride as a nation for being under 500 years of colonial domination which continues up until now under America. So if you want to prevent offending others, start taking some crash courses in Smooth Interpersonal Relations from your Filipina wife, no offense meant. And, your reply that Anglo-Filipinos don't look Nordics at all may be a generalization. I study at one of the exclusive schools in Manila, are a lot of them are Amerasians (most of which are Anglo-Americans) and I can tell you, they indeed have facial appearances and complexions that make them look like pure Caucasians, such as red hair, green eyes, and freckles. Maybe you've been watching too much Filipino soap operas, like Bea Alonzo, Georgina Wilson, and Anne Curtis, who are British or AUstralian mixed with Filipinos - the thing is, they don't look Nordics because their mothers were pure Filipinos, but how about those whose mothers were from the outstart Spanish Mestizas? I have lots of acquaintances with gray and hazel eyes and have parents who come from British people, and I can vouch that they indeed look more Nordic than the pure Britons I've ever encountered in my whole life. |
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Jun 7 2007, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(tangkas @ Jun 7 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]2989636[/snapback] They do favor Colombians who are Mestizo themselves of Spaniard and Native American ( Asian) descent. I do see Asian like traits in them. My point they're no better then an Aeta or a person in the squatters region. I can see your point; but you brought up the KKK, a very sensitive topic. You are part white, your explaining to a non-white how kkk would torture him,it would be offensive. |
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Jun 8 2007, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(ocrapdm @ Jun 7 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]2989816[/snapback] And, your reply that Anglo-Filipinos don't look Nordics at all may be a generalization. I study at one of the exclusive schools in Manila, are a lot of them are Amerasians (most of which are Anglo-Americans) and I can tell you, they indeed have facial appearances and complexions that make them look like pure Caucasians, such as red hair, green eyes, and freckles. Maybe you've been watching too much Filipino soap operas, like Bea Alonzo, Georgina Wilson, and Anne Curtis, who are British or AUstralian mixed with Filipinos - the thing is, they don't look Nordics because their mothers were pure Filipinos, but how about those whose mothers were from the outstart Spanish Mestizas? I have lots of acquaintances with gray and hazel eyes and have parents who come from British people, and I can vouch that they indeed look more Nordic than the pure Britons I've ever encountered in my whole life. I'm sorry but I have to disagree w/ the last paragraph, about the Nordic thing (again) I'm Anglo-Filipino (I guess i'll use that term) and i've seen 100s of other Anglo-Filipinos in my lifetime because I live in a military town. And i'll tell you that the majority of them look more Filipino than white. Some look Asian, some look kind of Hispanic. A few look white, but not Nordic, more like Italian. The only ones i've seen w/ blonde hair & blue eyes are the ones that are only a quarter Filipino and there's not many of those around here. But I took the time to find all the pics of Filipino/White ppl that i kno because I have no life, and if you didn't kno already, i like using picture examples. Some of these i already posted on the first page. ![]() My cuz & me ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Both Filipino/White ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ^Those last 3 are about the whitest ones I know. So yeah, Filipino side clearly dominates over white! Hey if any of you guys are reading this ^ please don't be mad that i used your pic, consider youself a cool person. This post has been edited by Graham_Cracker07: Jun 8 2007, 03:17 AM |
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Jun 8 2007, 12:43 AM
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I like looking pictures in this thread. Thanks GC.
http://a391.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01468...468128390_l.jpg the guy in the right looks like the guy who played the teenage hulk in the hulk movie. The guy who woke up from his nightmare. |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:14 AM
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as a Spanish descendant from Latin America, i can tell you that im frankly shocked how much the people in these pictures can pass as Mexicans or Colombians i mean all the way to Venezuelans , Brazilians all over really...but they sure do look mixed, not of pure Spanish descent
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Jun 8 2007, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(tangkas @ Jun 7 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]2989613[/snapback] It appeared as if he was acting like he's special or better then Malay Filipino. That gets under my skin. I wanted him to know to a racist KKK person he's not white, and to them he's nothing special. The same way all mixed people including myself is nothing special to the KKK. i think its because he's a FOB. not all fobs are like that but a few tisoys fobs do feel they have bragging rights. its just the culture. lighter skin & refined features are considered better because its such a humid, hot country & the sun is indeed overpowering, especially in the summer. naturally one would have an aversion to too much sunlight exposure. usually once you land in a western country, things like likas bleaching soap, fairness creams, ect., are not available and not even used at all. its like in the states u dont go to salons to get ur skin bleached, you go there to get tanned. its strange coz mestizo people come to america thinking they'll get some special star treatment & they are shocked to find out they are just another face in the crowd. they dont get celeb teatment here like in 'pinas. in a switch of fate, the most social & extroverted pinoys are usually the moreno types. no lie. straight up brown pacific islander pinoy. the type that have a swagger, the lingo, and the confidence. misenterpeted by fobs as "mayabang". but really... its just basically a kid that has his $hit together coz he loves being who he is & isnt stuck in the past. people like halfies & tisoys are usually the odd ones out, in the states. they also fall prey to getting whitewashed or hanging out with mexicans just to "fit in". out here its so different. everybody is tan in california.... except for a few fobby east asians , most everybody likes to get a healthy golden glow. and you are right, the KKK sees no distinction in mixed or half/hapa whatever. if you even have a drop of blood that isnt anglo saxon caucasian, then basically you should be shot.... according to them. |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:31 AM
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sorry guys, im a bit new to the "Philipino expirience" lol......so white descendants or mixed mestizos etc.. think they are better in the Philipines and stuff? Are they the ruling elite? Surely they should not be the majority right?
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Jun 8 2007, 03:59 AM
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SecretAsianMan, i've read your posts on the other threads as well as this thread and I strongly encourage you to stay. I see you as a valuable poster that contributes highly to this Filipino forum. I understand that your quite sensitive to words, nevertheless, refrain from running away like a pussy (excuse my french), instead convey your views and challenge certain individual's presumptuous remark, after all this is a forum where opinions can be expressed and openly discussed.
It seems to me you got offended when 'tangkas' stated "you're not white" blatantly, as if your pride has been hurt because you wanted to be part of these elite individuals of 'small minority'. Whatever your reasons, enlighten us. I know you didn't say directly (i'm white, mixed etc) but your comments "Such people, even including people like me, are a small minority -- certainly not not large enough to define the representative looks of mestizo/Eurasian people in the Philippines, I would imagine..." said otherwise. I can relate to 'tangkas'' experience regarding his visit to the Philippines. I, too, was aware of these so called 'Amerasians' and 'Mestizos' inferiority complex towards the darker Malay Filipino, hence my answer to the poster's question (earlier on this thread) was 'Amerasians' and 'Mestizos', as I sensed racial reason behind the question. I'm still baffled as to why nobody has criticized or spark a debate when I stated 'White Supremacy Hypothesis' as one of the reason. Sociologically speaking, asians (not all obviously) and other non-white races feels the need to associate themselves with the caucasians, as they feel they are more superior. To simplify things, they shaped the 'modern world', dominate the world economy, amongst the richest countries in the world, dominate the media and popular culture, set the standard of 'beauty' etc just to name a few. I consider myself as a Filipino (not this and that) because I was born there! period, hence my signature and my username. What annoys me the most is that, were too busy debating about our racial differences, when we should unite and move forward as one people, strive together for a better economy and a better future. I expect backlash from this post...i'm waiting I must congratulate 'ocrapdm' for his comment as it made my day "You got to understand Philippine History at least a little bit - we were occupied by the Spaniards and Americans with the use of countless massacres, indoctrination, and lectures that made us and our ancesotrs feel inferior. Therefore we Filipinos have evolved to a certain level that is called Colonial Mentality, wherein a person who is being called "looking-White", or "looking-Caucasian" (whatever the term may be, Amboy, Mestizo, Tisoy, etc.) is very special, as it denotes a special kinship with the colonizer, thereby making him technically superior in the eyes of the other groups. That's why we claim being Spanish-Chinese-Filipino (not Malay, because Filipinos are Taiwanese aborigine descendants) - to avenge our wounded pride as a nation for being under 500 years of colonial domination which continues up until now under America" This post has been edited by PinoyMogul: Jun 8 2007, 04:01 AM |
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Jun 8 2007, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(ocrapdm @ Jun 8 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]2989816[/snapback] You are right in saying that all Filipinos, regardless of whether he is an Aeta or a pure Spaniard is equal. But the point is, you have been too much blunt in stating your opinion and we Filipinos practice Smooth Interpersonal Relations, which means, we don't shoot our complaints and other brouhahas to others - instead, we make it a humoristic situation or approach the problem tactfully with all guards against hurting and offending the fellow Filipino. And honestly, you're approach is too blunt. Perhaps you could ask your wife about how Filipinos approach each other. Regarding your comments about Neo-Nazis, you're right in saying that they won't be regarded as White, but I think in American, they'd be considered Hispanic though. And in all fairness to Secret Asian Man, he never claimed that he looked White or that he wanted to be called a White. You got to understand Philippine History at least a little bit - we were occupied by the Spaniards and Americans with the use of countless massacres, indoctrination, and lectures that made us and our ancesotrs feel inferior. Therefore we Filipinos have evolved to a certain level that is called Colonial Mentality, wherein a person who is being called "looking-White", or "looking-Caucasian" (whatever the term may be, Amboy, Mestizo, Tisoy, etc.) is very special, as it denotes a special kinship with the colonizer, thereby making him technically superior in the eyes of the other groups. That's why we claim being Spanish-Chinese-Filipino (not Malay, because Filipinos are Taiwanese aborigine descendants) - to avenge our wounded pride as a nation for being under 500 years of colonial domination which continues up until now under America. So if you want to prevent offending others, start taking some crash courses in Smooth Interpersonal Relations from your Filipina wife, no offense meant. And, your reply that Anglo-Filipinos don't look Nordics at all may be a generalization. I study at one of the exclusive schools in Manila, are a lot of them are Amerasians (most of which are Anglo-Americans) and I can tell you, they indeed have facial appearances and complexions that make them look like pure Caucasians, such as red hair, green eyes, and freckles. Maybe you've been watching too much Filipino soap operas, like Bea Alonzo, Georgina Wilson, and Anne Curtis, who are British or AUstralian mixed with Filipinos - the thing is, they don't look Nordics because their mothers were pure Filipinos, but how about those whose mothers were from the outstart Spanish Mestizas? I have lots of acquaintances with gray and hazel eyes and have parents who come from British people, and I can vouch that they indeed look more Nordic than the pure Britons I've ever encountered in my whole life. I dont think you know what Nordic is . Nordic look is a minority in America. Nordic people are the lightest of whites, with light blond hair, and blue eyes. Never seen a mixed person look that way ever. The country with an almost pure Nordic population is Iceland. Most Spaniards and Europeans are not Nordic. Many of those Germans Nazi were not close to being Nordic. You apparently think Nordic is one with green eyes. It's not for information. That lady that someone posted doesnt come close to be Nordic. Nordic folks dont have wide nostrils like the woman that was posted. They have their unique features. Red hair, green eyes, and freckles were is found a lot in Ireland, and most Irish are not Nordic in look. |
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Jun 8 2007, 04:02 AM
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QUOTE(ocrapdm @ Jun 8 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]2989816[/snapback] You are right in saying that all Filipinos, regardless of whether he is an Aeta or a pure Spaniard is equal. But the point is, you have been too much blunt in stating your opinion and we Filipinos practice Smooth Interpersonal Relations, which means, we don't shoot our complaints and other brouhahas to others - instead, we make it a humoristic situation or approach the problem tactfully with all guards against hurting and offending the fellow Filipino. And honestly, you're approach is too blunt. Perhaps you could ask your wife about how Filipinos approach each other. Regarding your comments about Neo-Nazis, you're right in saying that they won't be regarded as White, but I think in American, they'd be considered Hispanic though. And in all fairness to Secret Asian Man, he never claimed that he looked White or that he wanted to be called a White. You got to understand Philippine History at least a little bit - we were occupied by the Spaniards and Americans with the use of countless massacres, indoctrination, and lectures that made us and our ancesotrs feel inferior. Therefore we Filipinos have evolved to a certain level that is called Colonial Mentality, wherein a person who is being called "looking-White", or "looking-Caucasian" (whatever the term may be, Amboy, Mestizo, Tisoy, etc.) is very special, as it denotes a special kinship with the colonizer, thereby making him technically superior in the eyes of the other groups. That's why we claim being Spanish-Chinese-Filipino (not Malay, because Filipinos are Taiwanese aborigine descendants) - to avenge our wounded pride as a nation for being under 500 years of colonial domination which continues up until now under America. So if you want to prevent offending others, start taking some crash courses in Smooth Interpersonal Relations from your Filipina wife, no offense meant. And, your reply that Anglo-Filipinos don't look Nordics at all may be a generalization. I study at one of the exclusive schools in Manila, are a lot of them are Amerasians (most of which are Anglo-Americans) and I can tell you, they indeed have facial appearances and complexions that make them look like pure Caucasians, such as red hair, green eyes, and freckles. Maybe you've been watching too much Filipino soap operas, like Bea Alonzo, Georgina Wilson, and Anne Curtis, who are British or AUstralian mixed with Filipinos - the thing is, they don't look Nordics because their mothers were pure Filipinos, but how about those whose mothers were from the outstart Spanish Mestizas? I have lots of acquaintances with gray and hazel eyes and have parents who come from British people, and I can vouch that they indeed look more Nordic than the pure Britons I've ever encountered in my whole life. You think the KKK loves Hispanics ? Come on ! If they hate Jews what makes you think they love Hispanics ? |
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Jun 8 2007, 05:13 AM
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QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 8 2007, 01:30 AM) [snapback]2989985[/snapback] I'm sorry but I have to disagree w/ the last paragraph, about the Nordic thing (again) I'm Anglo-Filipino (I guess i'll use that term) and i've seen 100s of other Anglo-Filipinos in my lifetime because I live in a military town. And i'll tell you that the majority of them look more Filipino than white. Some look Asian, some look kind of Hispanic. A few look white, but not Nordic, more like Italian. The only ones i've seen w/ blonde hair & blue eyes are the ones that are only a quarter Filipino and there's not many of those around here. But I took the time to find all the pics of Filipino/White ppl that i kno because I have no life, and if you didn't kno already, i like using picture examples. Some of these i already posted on the first page. ![]() My cuz & me ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Both Filipino/White ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ^Those last 3 are about the whitest ones I know. So yeah, Filipino side clearly dominates over white! Hey if any of you guys are reading this ^ please don't be mad that i used your pic, consider youself a cool person. You do look more Malay then anything. However, dont argue with that guy. He doesn't know what Nordic is. In America Nordics are some what of a minority. How many US presidents fit into the Nordic mold? Yes, you know not many of them. Our President Bush is not clsoe to being Nordic. That OP thinks all whites are Nordic. Some times its best not to debate with those who want to keep their heads in the sane like an Ostrich . This post has been edited by tangkas: Jun 8 2007, 05:25 AM |
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Jun 8 2007, 05:24 AM
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Jun 8 2007, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE(Najjiah @ Jun 8 2007, 03:25 AM) [snapback]2990173[/snapback] i think its because he's a FOB. not all fobs are like that but a few tisoys fobs do feel they have bragging rights. its just the culture. lighter skin & refined features are considered better because its such a humid, hot country & the sun is indeed overpowering, especially in the summer. naturally one would have an aversion to too much sunlight exposure. usually once you land in a western country, things like likas bleaching soap, fairness creams, ect., are not available and not even used at all. its like in the states u dont go to salons to get ur skin bleached, you go there to get tanned. its strange coz mestizo people come to america thinking they'll get some special star treatment & they are shocked to find out they are just another face in the crowd. they dont get celeb teatment here like in 'pinas. in a switch of fate, the most social & extroverted pinoys are usually the moreno types. no lie. straight up brown pacific islander pinoy. the type that have a swagger, the lingo, and the confidence. misenterpeted by fobs as "mayabang". but really... its just basically a kid that has his $hit together coz he loves being who he is & isnt stuck in the past. people like halfies & tisoys are usually the odd ones out, in the states. they also fall prey to getting whitewashed or hanging out with mexicans just to "fit in". out here its so different. everybody is tan in california.... except for a few fobby east asians , most everybody likes to get a healthy golden glow. and you are right, the KKK sees no distinction in mixed or half/hapa whatever. if you even have a drop of blood that isnt anglo saxon caucasian, then basically you should be shot.... according to them. Part of my wife's family are mixed with Spanish. When I met them it was like I was meeting a bunch of Nicaraguans. However, none of them brag about being Spanish, and they're not snoty and conceited. I love them because they dont claim Spanish. They claim Filipino, and thats it.My wife looks pure Filipina. None of that mixed look came down to her, and she's sexy and brown. If you notice most foreign men, including white men, who marry Filipino dont go after the so called Mestiza. They like the brown skinned sexy Pinay. Nicole Schwzinger ( if I spelled her name right) is mixed with Pinay, but she's brown. No man in America or Europe would say she's ugly. In America the sexiest Pinay are brown. I bet Mestiza are upset because they're so used to being the sexy ones. They come here, and notice they aren't what is classified as sexy Filipina. Beauty = looking more European White and less non white are over. Look at American celebs. Most of them are tanned, and minorities like blacks, hispanics, jew, and asians are getting much play and air time. |
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Jun 8 2007, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(uwag_davao @ Jun 8 2007, 12:43 AM) [snapback]2990004[/snapback] I like looking pictures in this thread. Thanks GC. http://a391.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01468...468128390_l.jpg the guy in the right looks like the guy who played the teenage hulk in the hulk movie. The guy who woke up from his nightmare. Thanks! I haven't seen that movie but I looked the dude up and you're right, they do look alike QUOTE(tangkas @ Jun 8 2007, 05:13 AM) [snapback]2990321[/snapback] You do look more Malay then anything. However, dont argue with that guy. He doesn't know what Nordic is. In America Nordics are some what of a minority. How many US presidents fit into the Nordic mold? Yes, you know not many of them. Our President Bush is not clsoe to being Nordic. That OP thinks all whites are Nordic. Some times its best not to debate with those who want to keep their heads in the sane like an Ostrich . Well even if he doesn't know what Nordic is, he seems to be suggesting that some Anglo-Filipinos look like white folks. QUOTE I can tell you, they indeed have facial appearances and complexions that make them look like pure Caucasians, such as red hair, green eyes, and freckles. QUOTE I have lots of acquaintances with gray and hazel eyes and have parents who come from British people, and I can vouch that they indeed look more Nordic than the pure Britons I've ever encountered in my whole life. I have never in my life seen a Filipino/White peson that looks like what he described & you can see from the pics i posted that the Filipino side dominates. |
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Jun 8 2007, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(PinoyMogul @ Jun 4 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]2982419[/snapback] I have seen people like that (mixed) in the Philippines especially in Manila/Quezon City where a lot of the 'Westerners' reside. They obviously look of mixed stock, they get a lot of stare from people, I should know. I got two brothers and 1 sister and not surprisingly, my sister gets the most attention ![]() Anyway i'm off. Good day everyone. Oh yeah! Your sister is hot!!! |
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Jun 9 2007, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 5 2007, 01:35 AM) [snapback]2982990[/snapback] I was afraid i would get backlash for this, but i'm not really a fan of the chinito look either. It's not because i think they're ugly, but you can find chinito-looking ppl all over Asia. I like it when Filipinos stand out. Hmmm...I'm guessing you haven't seen a Spanish-Chinese combo. There are quite some in Southern Mindanao. Beautiful people. Unfortunately you don't get to see them on TV/movies. |
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Jun 9 2007, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(MILTON @ Jun 8 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]2990157[/snapback] as a Spanish descendant from Latin America, i can tell you that im frankly shocked how much the people in these pictures can pass as Mexicans or Colombians i mean all the way to Venezuelans , Brazilians all over really...but they sure do look mixed, not of pure Spanish descent These people are common sight in the Philippines, as well as in Filipino American communities in the United States. THey claim that these are Nordics. In the Philippines, most of the ANglo-Filos in the Middle Class look very much like this, but those in the upper class can pass off as unmixed though... |
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Jun 9 2007, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(MILTON @ Jun 8 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]2990181[/snapback] sorry guys, im a bit new to the "Philipino expirience" lol......so white descendants or mixed mestizos etc.. think they are better in the Philipines and stuff? Are they the ruling elite? Surely they should not be the majority right? Not all White descendants and mixed mestizos think they're better, but many do. They call the indigenous Filipinos lots of pejorative terms, such as "indio", "muchacho" (used in the Philippines negatively - similar meaning to "a poor boy"), etc, etc. Many Filipinos (up to 30%) are Mestizos, but due to extreme remarriages to indigenous Filipinos, those with noticeable Caucasoid physical appearance would probably appear to be 15% only (OK, just my opinion). They are not really exclusively the ruling class, but they sure do have a VIRTUAL MONOPOLY on the ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, SOME POLITICAL FUNCTIONS, and some ECONOMIC POWERS, the first and last one being shared with the Chinese and the relatively new and emerging power of Mixed Filipino-White Americans. |
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Jun 9 2007, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(PinoyMogul @ Jun 5 2007, 05:34 AM) [snapback]2983324[/snapback] So, according to 'Kiss_the_Girls' white and pale look are seen as exotic in the Philippines hence they are much more embraced!? What about our northern asian cousins like the Japanese, Koreans or Northern Chinese? who more or less have 'white' and 'pale' skin due to colder climate? Although I have seen some, they are obviously outnumbered by these so called 'Amerasians' and Mestizos. I think Kiss_the_Girls, who likes to use the bastardized term 'Filo's', needs to take a little look at the history of the Philippines, and appreciate that being under Spanish (classed as Caucasians) rule for 333 years, one cannot underestimate 'Colonial Mentality' as one of the reasons. "It would be different abroad" you said. If what you say is true, that opposite attracts, all the time (towards exoticness), then there would be no racism. This is a diverse subject that I don't want to get into, its too lengthy and I don't want to get drag into the social disparity bit. I don't really get washed up over this colonial mentality term when it comes to physical features. The Japanese have never been influenced by a foreign power. But why are they so obsessed with western standards of beauty so much?Kiss_the_Girls is right. It is seen as exotic. When I go to the malll and there are white foreigners, especially non old males, everyone looks. All the salesgirls, shoppers, etc. I'm the only one who gets quite annoyed by it. I go like, 'duh! I see white people on TV everyday.' People naturally want to have something they don't. White people want to get a tan. Dark people want to be white. Straight haired curly up. Dark haireds bleach their locks, etc. |
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Jun 9 2007, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(PinoyMogul @ Jun 8 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]2990268[/snapback] SecretAsianMan, i've read your posts on the other threads as well as this thread and I strongly encourage you to stay. I see you as a valuable poster that contributes highly to this Filipino forum. I understand that your quite sensitive to words, nevertheless, refrain from running away like a pussy (excuse my french), instead convey your views and challenge certain individual's presumptuous remark, after all this is a forum where opinions can be expressed and openly discussed. It seems to me you got offended when 'tangkas' stated "you're not white" blatantly, as if your pride has been hurt because you wanted to be part of these elite individuals of 'small minority'. Whatever your reasons, enlighten us. I know you didn't say directly (i'm white, mixed etc) but your comments "Such people, even including people like me, are a small minority -- certainly not not large enough to define the representative looks of mestizo/Eurasian people in the Philippines, I would imagine..." said otherwise. I can relate to 'tangkas'' experience regarding his visit to the Philippines. I, too, was aware of these so called 'Amerasians' and 'Mestizos' inferiority complex towards the darker Malay Filipino, hence my answer to the poster's question (earlier on this thread) was 'Amerasians' and 'Mestizos', as I sensed racial reason behind the question. I'm still baffled as to why nobody has criticized or spark a debate when I stated 'White Supremacy Hypothesis' as one of the reason. Sociologically speaking, asians (not all obviously) and other non-white races feels the need to associate themselves with the caucasians, as they feel they are more superior. To simplify things, they shaped the 'modern world', dominate the world economy, amongst the richest countries in the world, dominate the media and popular culture, set the standard of 'beauty' etc just to name a few. I consider myself as a Filipino (not this and that) because I was born there! period, hence my signature and my username. What annoys me the most is that, were too busy debating about our racial differences, when we should unite and move forward as one people, strive together for a better economy and a better future. I expect backlash from this post...i'm waiting I must congratulate 'ocrapdm' for his comment as it made my day "You got to understand Philippine History at least a little bit - we were occupied by the Spaniards and Americans with the use of countless massacres, indoctrination, and lectures that made us and our ancesotrs feel inferior. Therefore we Filipinos have evolved to a certain level that is called Colonial Mentality, wherein a person who is being called "looking-White", or "looking-Caucasian" (whatever the term may be, Amboy, Mestizo, Tisoy, etc.) is very special, as it denotes a special kinship with the colonizer, thereby making him technically superior in the eyes of the other groups. That's why we claim being Spanish-Chinese-Filipino (not Malay, because Filipinos are Taiwanese aborigine descendants) - to avenge our wounded pride as a nation for being under 500 years of colonial domination which continues up until now under America" Tnx |
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