Minahasan Topic, What do you know about the Minahasan? Options

[han2]

hey this is great, now when we google the word "minahasan", this thread comes out too...

anyway, back on topic:

Sam Ratulangi

Dr. Gerungan Saul Samuel Yacob Ratulangi or Ratu Langie (November 5, 1890 - June 30, 1949), usually known as Sam Ratulangi, was a Minahasa politician from North Sulawesi, Indonesia.

The son of Jozias Ratulangi and Augustina Gerungan, both from wealthy, well-respected Minahasa families, Sam Ratulangi was born in Tondano, North Sulawesi, at the time a part of the Dutch East Indies. He was a gifted student, who after completing his studies in Tondano and Jakarta followed in his father's footsteps and went to Amsterdam in the Netherlands for further studies. He graduated from a teacher's college as a science teacher in 1915, studied for two more years at the University of Amsterdam, and in 1919 earned his Ph.D. at the University of Zurich, Switzerland.

On his return to Indonesia, he moved to Yogyakarta to teach science at a high school, and then moved on to Bandung to found the insurance company Assurantie Maatschappij Indonesia — the first known instance of the word "Indonesia" being used in an official document. [1] He had already led some Indonesian students' associations in Europe, and in 1924 was appointed as secretary of the Council of Minahasan Students. He used this position to lobby for more rights and is widely credited with getting the Dutch to abolish forced labor (Herendiensten) in Minahasa.

Appointed to the Volksraad (the Dutch East Indies' parliament) in 1927, he continued to agitate for equal rights and was one of the founding members of the United Scholars of Indonesia (Vereniging van Indonesische Academici) in 1932. He continued to serve in the Volksraad until 1937, when he was arrested and jailed for several months due to his increasing political involvement. He then became the editor of Nationale Commentaren, a Dutch-language news and issues magazine.

In early August 1945, he was appointed as one of the members of the Preparatory Committee on Indonesian Independence, and after Sukarno's unilateral declaration of independence on August 16th, he was thereafter appointed as the governor of Celebes (Sulawesi) in August 22nd. Arrested by the Dutch on April 5th, 1946, he was exiled for three years to Serui on Yapen Island, Papua. Freed briefly in March 23, 1948 and brought to Yogyakarta, he was captured again on December 25, 1948 when the Dutch occupied Yogyakarta. Due to his failing health, he was released again in Jakarta in February 1949, where he died on June 30. [2]

In August 1961, Ratulangi was posthumously awarded the title of Pahlawan Kemerdekaan Nasional (National Independence Hero) by Sukarno. Manado's Sam Ratulangi Airport, the main thoroughfare Jalan Sam Ratulangi and the Sam Ratulangi University are all named after him.

This post has been edited by han2: Aug 9 2007, 02:59 AM

[claudia]

han2, rad this 2 days ago, you're in those permesta story are you?
Some story that never been completely in Our curiculum at school.

At least initially the 'Permesta' (Piagam Perjuangan Semesta Alam) rebellion was a reformist rather than a separatist movement
this one interesting topic.

[han2]

here's another indonesian hero of Minahasan descent:

Robert Wolter Monginsidi

Robert Wolter Monginsidi (Malalayang, Manado, 14 Februari 1925–Pacinang, Makassar, 5 September 1949) adalah seorang pejuang kemerdekaan Indonesia sekaligus pahlawan nasional Indonesia.

Beliau dimakamkan di Taman Makam Pahlawan Makassar.

@claudia: post been edited...

[jason76]

wow, very attractive....yeah, i think many minahasans look similar to filipinos too...

agree, and they definately do not look like Europeans

"Minahasans were said to look, eat, and talk like Dutchmen."

[minaaaa]

i found these jokes very classic. =)
________________________________________________________________________
NYANDA PERNAH BALAS

Utu, seorang murid SMP yang terkenal nakal, ditegur oleh Ibu Gurunya.
Ibu Guru : " Utu, kiapa kalamarin ngana nyanda maso skolah ?"
Utu : " Sakit, Nci !"
Ibu Guru : " Kiapa nyanda kirim surat ?"
Utu : " Percuma ! Nci kwa nyanda pernah balas...?????"

BECAK

Ada tiga nona nona dari Manado mo nae tu becak, kong bilang bagini 'pa itu tukang becak.
" Bang ! 'Tong tiga boleh...?". Kong 'tu abang manyao bagini :
" Hah...?! Tong satu aja berat banget apa lagi tiga, Neng !!!!"

BRAPA LITER

Suatu waktu, Kale pigi pa Oom Petu pe warong. Pas sampe dimuka warong :
Kale : Oom Petu, bli roko dang...?
Oom Petu : (acuh sambil ba ator jualan)
Kale : (deng suara yang sadiki keras) Oom Petu...bli roko dang ?
Oom Petu : (masih tetap acuh)
Kale : (bataria keras skali) Oom petu....! Bli roko dang...!
Oom Petu : (deng nada marah) Eh..Kale, baku hormat sadiki deng orang tua,
ngana pe kira kita pongo ? Brapa liter minya so ngana mo bli ?
Kale : ??

ANJING KOROTEI

Oom Anton ada sementara bagale tanah kong Oom Abe, depe birman datang batanya.
Abe : Hei Anton ngana ada lia tape anjing ?
Anton : Kiapa so ngana tanya pa kita ?
ngana kira kita pe karja jaga-jaga ngana pe anjing ?
Abe : Tuangali lei, cuma tanya bagitu so bamarah.
Ngana dang ada bagale apa so ?
Anton : Bagale tanah for mo kubur tape ayam.
Abe : kalu for mo kubur akang ayam, kiapa dang kong pe basar skali tu lubang ?
Anton : soalnya tape ayam so ada di dalam anjing pe puru.
Abe : apa tu anjing pe warna ?
Anton : Korotei
Abe : Pemaar lei ngana....! Itu tape anjing ....!

KANIBAL

Alo : Hei...Utu, ngana tau apa arti kata kanibal ?
Utu : Nintau noh...
Alo : Kalu bagitu skarang kita mo tanya pangana, kalu ngana makang ngana
pe mama deng papa, orang pangge apa dang pa ngana ?
Utu : Yatim piatu noh...

BAKU TINGGI PANGKAT

Ale : Kita pe papa waktu taong 1975, depe pangkat so Mayor.
Skarang, so Mayjen.
Utu : ah..kalu kita pe Oom taong 1970 so Kolonel.
Ale : Berarti so Jendral skarang kang ?
Utu : Nyanda, so meninggal.

This post has been edited by minaaaa: Aug 9 2007, 09:10 AM

[alfan]

^kagak ngerti gw

[XxRyoChanxX]

^ hahahha those jokes are funny
thanks for sharing

Robert Wolter Monginsidi

I remember learning about him when I was small..
I used to make fun of his last name... (shame on me)

This post has been edited by XxRyoChanxX: Aug 9 2007, 03:30 PM

[NEWGINAFETS]

^kagak ngerti gw

it's funny!! you want me to translate?

[han2]

here's a third person's account of life in manado:

North Sulawesi

Manado is a fun town!

The people make the town seem like that. The people of Manado are interesting - generations of mixed bloods and Portuguese, Dutch, Japanese, Indian, Chinese and many others, make the local population very different looking from other Asian people. Additional influence comes from the not-far-away Philippines.

Lifestyles of the Locals

Manado is a rich town. Rich, not in the western way of thinking, even far from the standards of Jakarta, but still rich. The fortunes come from the old coconut, vanilla and clove plantations. But also from rich fishing resources, mining, as well as trade with Central Sulawesi, the Sanghie Islands (a get away for Filipinos) and the Moluccas.

The economic elite are primarily of Chinese origin, just like in many other Asian countries. The only difference with the local Chinese community is that in Manado there are not many racial tensions. All of the communities are quite well integrated. Multiracial families (Chinese and Manadonese) are quite common.

You ask why I think Manado is funny. Well, Manado is funny because here it seems as if time stopped fifty years ago. Business is still based not on contracts but on hand shakes. The bureaucracy is easy bypassed with good personal relations and problems are managed through old respected family chiefs.

Cars, equipment, machinery and banking affairs are more expensive (10% to 15 %) than in Jakarta or Surabaya, but nobody cares. More important to the locals is that coconut oil, rice, fish and chili peppers are not expensive, but are easy to find and buy.

As soon as a little money is in the pocket of most Manadonese, you can be sure that the money will run out in one day. He or she, will run to the local Matahari department store and buy whatever attracts his or her attention. Or if there is a bit more money, it will be spent in restaurants, (there are many), discos, and other forms of nightlife.

The Manadonese guide their lives by stories they hear of the lifestyles in Singapore and Jakarta. Fashions come here a couple of years later than in the rest of the world. For example, recently thousands of hand phones have been sold. 90% of them are not in use anymore, because the owners have used up all their money to pay the phone bills or in many cases even borrow money so that they can show off to their friends that they have a hand phone.

Most middle class people live in town, or live within 5-10 kilometres of the town of Manado. Poorer people live around the river that divides the town in two. Nicer neighborhoods are up in the hills, where the politicians and government officials live.

Most of the middle and upper class Manadonese have relatives in the villages near the plantations. The plantation-based relatives hold most of the family wealth and all Manadonese, from time to time, have to visit their relative's village for money refueling.

[claudia]

minaaa: I got your jikes, that's so funny. I really like the 3rd one. Are you related to 'DABU-DABU BAKASANG'
Masih inga pa waraney aka Binyo?

han2: I can't belive yo found those stories, btw I rad them all already however, they're interesting. Cheers!

[Bhaskara]

@tangy: You mean the Torajans? I dunno, they are recognized as two different ethnicities in Indonesia, but who knows, there's gotta be a deep investigation first. Some Torajans have slanted eyes too, and both the Minahasans and Torajans still held on to their traditional beliefs by the time of the western colonialists (most ethnicities have already converted to Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam), and later both of the ethnicities became the object of Christian Missionaries (which is, btw, a hot topic in various regional chat in AF).

Let's talk about Manado Malay dialect! Manado Malay ISO code is "xmm", a part of Malay Creole family.
Along with the religion, the missionaries also brought Malay language, which explains eventhough it's faraway from Riau Islands, their language are very similar. Not identical, though, 'cos most Indonesians would have some difficulties understanding what they are talking about. It became an independent dialect of Malay language. But consider this, you travel from Riau through Sumatra where you still understand their Malay, but when travelling through Java and Kalimantan you found out that their language is very different. Then you came to the southern part of of Sulawesi, where you found different languages as well. But when you reach out North Sulawesi, suddenly you understand their dialect again!

Their dialect is somehow similar to the Malay /Bahasa Indonesia you found in Maluku Islands and Papua. Understandable because the Malay dialect was brought to them by the same Missionaries. Example, while it's "Buku saya" in Bahasa Indonesia, it's "Kita pe buku" in Minahasan dialect and Papuan dialect (and basically all Eastern Indonesia's dialects/version of Bahasa Indonesia).

[han2]

the language:

Manado Malay

Manado Malay is a language spoken in Manado and the surrounding area. The local name of the language is Bahasa Manado, and the name Minahasa Malay is also used, after the main ethnic group speaking the language. Since Manado Malay is used only for spoken communication, there is no standard orthography.

Manado Malay is closely related to standard Indonesian. It differs from standard Indonesian in having a large number of Portuguese and Dutch loan words and in its use of "kita" as a first person singular pronoun (it's a first person inclusive plural pronoun in standard Indonesian).

Grammar

Word stress

Most words have stress on the pre-final syllable:
kaDEra 'chair'
STEnga 'half'
DOi 'money'

But there are also many words with final stress:
buTUL 'right, correct, true'
toLOR 'egg'

Pronouns

kita 'I / me'
ngana 'you (singular)'
dia 'he / she'
torang 'we'
ngoni 'you (plural)'
dorang 'they'

Possessives

Possessives are built by adding "pe" to the personal pronoun or name or noun, then followed by the 'possessed' noun. Thus "pe" has the function similar to English "'s" as in "the doctor's uniform".

E.g. Kita pe oto, kita pe tamang.

Shortened forms are usual:

"ta pe" instead of "kita pe"

"nga pe" instead of "ngana pe"

"de pe" instead of "dia pe"

"tong pe" for "torang pe"

ngoni stays ngoni

"dong pe" for "dorang pe"

The word "pe" shouldn't only follow a personal pronoun.

E.g.

Komputer pe monitor = the computer's monitor

Matthias pe kamar = Matthias' room
kita pe oto 'my car'
kita pe tamang 'my friend'
Édodo'é 'Oh my God'
Mimi pe mama 'the mother of Mimi'

The W-Words

Why = KYApa?

Where = di MAna?

Who = SApa?

Which one(s) = tu MAna?

Tense

Ada ('to be') can be used in Manadonese Malay to indicate past tense. eg 'Dorang ada turun Wenang' They went down to Manado 'Kita ada makan' We ate, or We have eaten.


@claudia: thanx

[Bhaskara]

That's a quite good article from Wikipedia. But the proper terms should be "dialect" rather than "language".

[claudia]

Oh dear, han2 you've been searching again.....
Great start for those who want to know the Manado Malay but since than the language has been extended by local people. There so many new words been added by the local itself, like the B.Indonesian with metro jakarta are a bit different & Manado malay with metro manado also slightly different.

When I went there last time I couldn't understand of some of the new words.

[han2]

for those not familiar with it, here's a map of North Sulawesi, the land of the Minahasan:



@claudia, yeah...

[claudia]

Yeas han2.... thanks for the map.

@han2, what?

[han2]

Topography and climate

Minahasa with a total area of 4,167.87 km2 is the most heavily populated and highly developed district in North Sulawesi. Only 20% of its land remains under forest, and the population density has soared to over 300 persons per square km – less than half of that of Java, but still very high.

Minahasa is extremely mountainous, with a narrow coastal fringe, and an interior plateau, where irrigated rice fields provide abundant harvest. Minahasa has abundant rain and clove trees grow well in the upland hills as do vegetables such as potatoes, carrots and cabbages.

People and Religion

The Minahasa are numerically and culturally the dominant group in North Sulawesi, living in the relatively densely populated valleys and plateau’s of the interior. They were appreciated by the Dutch for their administrative and teaching abilities, Protestant work ethic, soldiering, and maritime skills. There is still considerable Eurasian admixture in the population. Minahasans are especially hospitable to Westerners. Their houses reflect European tastes. Urban Chinese have intermarried with the Minahasans to a large extent. There are also small immigrant communities of Bugis, Makassarese, and Arabs and transmigrant colonies of Javanese and Balinese.

Minahasa district is the most Christianized part in Indonesia, with about 90% of the people Protestants and 10% Catholics. The excellent education system is due to intense competition among the different church schools, plus a lot of church money. The Minahasans take Christianity as seriously as the Makassarese and Bugis practice Islam in the South.

Christmas is celebrated joyfully and with great pageantry in Manado and surrounding areas. Surviving are animist beliefs in supernatural spirits contacted through native priest.

[jokotarub]

for those not familiar with it, here's a map of North Sulawesi, the land of the Minahasan:

thanks for the map, han2

North Sulawesi, however, is not the land of the Minahasans only. Minahasa, which begin at the northern tip of the Sulawesi mainland and end roughly at Poigar river at the south, is. The larger North Sulawesi is home to several ethnic groups, of which Minahasan is merely one, although probably the largest. Here's a map of Minahasa:



I'm not reviving the skin debate on the earlier pages, but minaa and claudia are actually right when they pointed out that some darker-skinned people from North Sulawesi are probably not Minahasan by ethnicity. Sanger people (of Sangihe & Talaud islands) are normally darker, a bit curly-haired and closer to Moluccans in physical appearance. People of Bolaang Mongondow (of Mongondow, Bintauna, Kaidipang & Bolango ethnic groups) also tend to have darker skin than Minahasan, although not the further physical similarities with Moluccans.

This post has been edited by jokotarub: Aug 14 2007, 11:21 PM

[XxRyoChanxX]

Minahasa district is the most Christianized part in Indonesia, with about 90% of the people Protestants and 10% Catholics. The excellent education system is due to intense competition among the different church schools, plus a lot of church money. The Minahasans take Christianity as seriously as the Makassarese and Bugis practice Islam in the South.

Christmas is celebrated joyfully and with great pageantry in Manado and surrounding areas. Surviving are animist beliefs in supernatural spirits contacted through native priest.

Kota Tomohon is also known as "Kota Pendidikan" (my parents are from tomohon)

I love Xmas time in manado, it's so much fun
I also love pengucapan (thanksgiving)

SMA Lokon St.Nikolaus the new "It" school

SMA Lokon St.Nikolaus adalah SMA Swasta yang terletak di Kota Tomohon propinsi Sulawesi Utara. Saat ini,
SMA ini berstatus sekolah unggulan bertaraf Internasional. SMA Lokon St.Nikolaus Tomohon memiliki akreditasi 'A'
oleh Departemen Pendidikan dan Kebudayaan Indonesia. Pada tahun 2005 sekolah ini diresmikan oleh presiden Soesilo bambang yudhoyono.



classroom


main office


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This post has been edited by XxRyoChanxX: Aug 14 2007, 03:54 PM

[han2]

The Minahasan people:

One of the most western oriented people, the hospitable and open-minded Minahasan people are Christians. Their first contact with the Europeans came in the 16th century with the arrival of Spaniards and Portuguese spice traders. However, it wasn't until the Dutch landed on their shores that they became totally Christianized.
At the beginning of the 17th century, the cultures of North Celebes were still dominated by the old Austronesian heritage of insular Southeast Asia. Indian influence had been negligible even in comparison with parts of the Philippines - there were no conspicuous Hindu religious accretions, no Indic scripts and very few Indian linguistic borrowings. Islam seems to have reached certain aristocratic groups via Ternate in the 1560s, but would not become an important part of folk culture in any part of North Celebes until the late nineteenth century. Contact with Spanish and Portuguese explorers began in the 1520s, and several Jesuit missionaries visited the area from 1563 onward, but only on the island of Siau was a European presence at all sustained in the sixteenth century (De la Costa 1958:7-11; Wessels 1933). (Henley 1996:23)

@jokotarub: Thanx for the clarification.