Chin Peng Options

[wongfeehung]

Chin Peng or Ong Boon Hua is famous in Malaysian history!!!

He is now 84 years old,harmless and living in Thailand....
and would like to come home to Malaysia and see his last
days out!!!!

He may have been a communist but he is a man of honour!!!!

I think he should be allowed to live in Malaysia........
What do you think.......

[fadlee]

wtf is wrong with you? chin peng is a terrorist and not someone to be honoured.. i wont agree if he wud be allowed to live here in malaysia..

fei hong.. if you feel like supporting communist ideology go to china for god sake..

[swingdoctor]

Virtually all communists were idealists and they believed that what they were doing was for the betterment of the average person, however misguided they may have proven to have been later on. having said that I don't believe that either of those two people will be allowed back into Malaysia.

[Betong]

Chin Peng or Ong Boon Hua is famous in Malaysian history!!!

He is now 84 years old,harmless and living in Thailand....
and would like to come home to Malaysia and see his last
days out!!!!

He may have been a communist but he is a man of honour!!!!

I think he should be allowed to live in Malaysia........
What do you think.......

But he kill many people back then. He may come back but he will have to settle in the jail or being shot to death. That my opinion.

[wongfeehung]

"man of honour"...was a eupherism!!!!!!

This post has been edited by wongfeehung: Aug 2 2007, 01:43 AM

[Crystallised Dre...]

I asked my Comm./Moral Studies lecturer about this once. He proceeded to tell me the story of a former Japanese soldier.

His friend had invited a Japanese friend to visit Malaysia, more specifically the city of Kuching (where I stay). This Japanese friend did not come alone - in fact, she brought along her grandfather. Her grandfather happened to be a former Japanese soldier that came to Kuching during the Japanese Occupation. During his stay in Kuching, he went around looking for families of those he killed during his service here and made an official apology. Turned out this old man had suffered heavy guilt over what he had done to his victims, and his past actions haunted his conscience.

Thing is, when you approach old age, worldly wealth, fame and whatever become of lesser and lesser importance to you. You seek only to let bygones be bygones and return to where you came from. This could probably be the case with Chin Peng. Besides, why didn't he go to some communist country like China or something where his communist ideologies could be fulfilled?

However, the problem is no matter what Chin Peng's reasons may be, there is a fear in Malaysia that his homecoming might cause some Communist revival or something. But then at times I wonder whether there is anything to fear at all. If the government is fully confident about its foundations in the country, I don't think there's much need to worry about Communism. Besides, with people so bent on free speech, free expression and things, Communism might not be much of an appeal to them. Of course it's not good to be too confident, but it's not good to be too paranoid either.

Though personally I feel that the government wouldn't allow Chin Peng in any time soon. They wouldn't even think about the whole issue as long as Chin Peng doesn't do another widely-broadcast appeal.

[wongfeehung]

wtf is wrong with you? chin peng is a terrorist and not someone to be honoured.. i wont agree if he wud be allowed to live here in malaysia..

fei hong.. if you feel like supporting communist ideology go to china for god sake..

"fadlee"...yes he was a communist!!!!! times have changed you appear to have no idea what communism is about!!!
and what happened in Malaysia .... While I do respect your age...I think you should do some more research!!!!! on this subject!!! and perhaps we can later discuss..= sorry about any spelling errors.....

At the moment Malaysia allow's corrupt government officials to live in Malaysia = UNMO.....why not an old man!!!!! of over 80 yrs old!!!!

I think the problem is with UNMO supporters.....they are scared of this old man!!!!

fadlee are you a UNMO supporter??????

[fadlee]

"fadlee"...yes he was a communist!!!!! times have changed you appear to have no idea what communism is about!!!
and what happened in Malaysia .... While I do respect your age...I think you should do some more research!!!!! on this subject!!! and perhaps we can later discuss..= sorry about any spelling errors.....

At the moment Malaysia allow's corrupt government officials to live in Malaysia = UNMO.....why not an old man!!!!! of over 80 yrs old!!!!

I think the problem is with UNMO supporters.....they are scared of this old man!!!!

fadlee are you a UNMO supporter??????

and why did you choose communism besides democracy? are u like blind with the ideology of classless,stateless organization..? even under democracy constitution you still feel theres a lack of freedom but maybe you like to live under constant rule of law which forbid you from doing anything.. ironically under communism theres no freedom at all..

what makes you think im an UMNO supporter (not UNMO)? what about some old 80 years old man la? are you talking about your beloved lee kuan yew?

so tell me.. how to stop corruption? it sounds easy as you thought it is.. its more complex than what you can think of..

[swingdoctor]

and why did you choose communism besides democracy? are u like blind with the ideology of classless,stateless organization..? even under democracy constitution you still feel theres a lack of freedom but maybe you like to live under constant rule of law which forbid you from doing anything.. ironically under communism theres no freedom at all..

what makes you think im an UMNO supporter (not UNMO)? what about some old 80 years old man la? are you talking about your beloved lee kuan yew?

so tell me.. how to stop corruption? it sounds easy as you thought it is.. its more complex than what you can think of..

If you read the ideal of communism, in a perfect world communism would probably work better then our current version of democracy. The issue is that we don't live in an ideal world and in communism there usually ends up being one person with absolute power, which goes against the ideals of communism anyway. Anyway you know the saying "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". At the time Chin Peng was active many communists members felt they were fighting for the people for a better society, often against colonialists or govents that were percieved as being corrupt or monarchs with absolute power. I'm not glorifying what Chin Peng did because history tells us that Communism despite its ideals just doesn't work, and I don't agree that the use of force as the Communists back then employed was justifyable.


Stop corruption, easy enough, what you need is enough people making the govnt accountable. Giving the opposition parties more power, voting along lines of percieved ability rather then race.

[kimyee73]

wtf is wrong with you? chin peng is a terrorist and not someone to be honoured.. i wont agree if he wud be allowed to live here in malaysia..

fei hong.. if you feel like supporting communist ideology go to china for god sake..

Have you been to China lately? It's more capitalist than Malaysia now.

[Esfandiari]

wtf is wrong with you? chin peng is a terrorist and not someone to be honoured.. i wont agree if he wud be allowed to live here in malaysia..

fei hong.. if you feel like supporting communist ideology go to china for god sake..

Agree with you Fadlee! Chin Peng should stay in Thailand!

But China is communist in name only these days! They are very capitalistic and doing free-market economy. Wong Fee Hung won't feel comfortable in China if he were communist ... China too bourgeois capitalist ... you should suggest him North Korea!!

[Betong]

Wong Fee Hung not a Chinese!!!! lol!!!

[wongfeehung]

Wong Fee Hung not a Chinese!!!! lol!!!

This "wongfeehung" is not chinese but is Malaysian!!!!! (duh)

[Betong]

^^ Really!!! I always thought you Singaporean... Sorry!!!

[wongfeehung]

^^ Really!!! I always thought you Singaporean... Sorry!!!

I am 100% Malaysian, and to confuse you""""""
I am not Malay/Chinese or Indian, but 100% Malaysian!!!


I have lived in Singapore...at Chip Bee.....

[tangawizi]

Chin Peng or Ong Boon Hua is famous in Malaysian history!!!

He is now 84 years old,harmless and living in Thailand....
and would like to come home to Malaysia and see his last
days out!!!!

He may have been a communist but he is a man of honour!!!!

I think he should be allowed to live in Malaysia........
What do you think.......

What is he famous for? Isn't it better to live in Thailand?

[tangawizi]

I asked my Comm./Moral Studies lecturer about this once. He proceeded to tell me the story of a former Japanese soldier.

His friend had invited a Japanese friend to visit Malaysia, more specifically the city of Kuching (where I stay). This Japanese friend did not come alone - in fact, she brought along her grandfather. Her grandfather happened to be a former Japanese soldier that came to Kuching during the Japanese Occupation. During his stay in Kuching, he went around looking for families of those he killed during his service here and made an official apology. Turned out this old man had suffered heavy guilt over what he had done to his victims, and his past actions haunted his conscience.

Thing is, when you approach old age, worldly wealth, fame and whatever become of lesser and lesser importance to you. You seek only to let bygones be bygones and return to where you came from. This could probably be the case with Chin Peng. Besides, why didn't he go to some communist country like China or something where his communist ideologies could be fulfilled?

However, the problem is no matter what Chin Peng's reasons may be, there is a fear in Malaysia that his homecoming might cause some Communist revival or something. But then at times I wonder whether there is anything to fear at all. If the government is fully confident about its foundations in the country, I don't think there's much need to worry about Communism. Besides, with people so bent on free speech, free expression and things, Communism might not be much of an appeal to them. Of course it's not good to be too confident, but it's not good to be too paranoid either.

Though personally I feel that the government wouldn't allow Chin Peng in any time soon. They wouldn't even think about the whole issue as long as Chin Peng doesn't do another widely-broadcast appeal.

Wow... what did the victims' family do when the old japanese soldier came knocking on their door to apollogise ??? I wonder if they got pissed ....

So maybe if this Chiin Peng made an official apology that he is sorry for being a communist, i am sure the malaysians will take him back. malaysians are a forgiving nation.. i believe. Look at Anwar, he's back in the limelight now..

[Protoculture]

He may have been a communist but he is a man of honour!!!!

He should be hanged for initiating the Communist insurgency back during the Emergency (1948 - 1960) & later 2nd wave of insurgency (1969 - 1988).

Many innocent men & women, both Malays & non malays (including Chinese) suffered Commies brutalities. Many brave police & military servicemen sacrificed their lives in order to defend this country from communist yoke!

Hell no! Chin Peng has no place in Malaysia. He can rot in wherever place he calls home now ... but definitely not Malaysia!