When will the Vietnamese elders before 1975 pass the power, to the Vietnamese youngsters after 1975? Options

[SoCal]

I am talking about both sides, Vietnamese in Vietnam and Overseas Vietnamese.


In other words, when will the Vietnamese elders who are in their 40s and above go away

and let the Vietnamese youngsters in our 30s and below taking leadership role?


Will the transition of power take place from 2010 to 2020 or after 2020?

This post has been edited by SoCal: Sep 15 2007, 10:04 PM

[Tradtacular]

Usually younger people don't know much about the structures and inner workings of government, younger people below 40 tend to be very apathetic and uninformed on politics. It's best to leave power with the elders for the time being until the young become more mature and wisen up. Also, allowing the young in Vietnam to rule could be come with catastrophic results, the young would change the structure of Vietnam too rapidly and you know what happened when Gorbechev tried to give Russia a rapid make over from socialism to capitalism...the Russia economy turned to sh!t and the economy of Russia is still in shambles.

If the Vietnamese government were to reform it's economic system it should at most reform it gradually similar to how the Chinese have reformed their country.

[SoCal]

Trade

Is it safe to assume the power of the Viet elders will be passed to the Viet youth after 2020?


I hope the Viet elders are not too greedy and hanging on power for too long.

[VietGuy7]

I'm eagerly awaiting for the peaceful passing of hardliners from both Hanoi and Saigon. More relevant is the passing of those in Hanoi, since they are in power.

[Tradtacular]

Trade

Is it safe to assume the power of the Viet elders will be passed to the Viet youth after 2020?
I hope the Viet elders are not too greedy and hanging on power for too long.

There will be a time when the Vietnamese Elders become too old and senile to rule and will have to pass on power to the younger and more fit...and hopefully for Vietnam's sake, more educated by then.

[SoCal]

In 2020, I will be 44.


How about you?



Do you consider yourself a Viet youth or a Viet elder?

[tooooswt]

There will be a time when the Vietnamese Elders become too old and senile to rule and will have to pass on power to the younger and more fit...and hopefully for Vietnam's sake, more educated by then.

so wouldn't it be wise to take some of the younger people and let them shadow the elders now? Maybe something like an internship?

[Tradtacular]

lol

I'm not even Vietnamese, I'm just a half-Chinese guy who pays attention and has an interest in alot of Asian political/economic affairs stuff.
By 2020 I'll be 30/31

[SoCal]

lol

I'm not even Vietnamese, I'm just a half-Chinese guy who pays attention and has an interest in alot of Asian political/economic affairs stuff.
By 2020 I'll be 30/31

So right now, you are around 14/15 years old?


Are you still a minor?

[Tradtacular]

No, I'm 18...LOL

[GenomVirues]

I am talking about both sides, Vietnamese in Vietnam and Overseas Vietnamese.
In other words, when will the Vietnamese elders who are in their 40s and above go away

and let the Vietnamese youngsters in our 30s and below taking leadership role?
Will the transition of power take place from 2010 to 2020 or after 2020?

I'm afraid the majority of young Viets diaspora are brainwashed by their parents and they will do the same when they have kids.

I bet those in Vietnam are doing the same thing too.

It's a vicious cycle even though its getting weaker...it's going take a while.

[SoCal]

I'm afraid the majority of young Viets diaspora are brainwashed by their parents and they will do the same when they have kids.

I bet those in Vietnam are doing the same thing too.

It's a vicious cycle even though its getting weaker...it's going take a while.

Genom:


Therefore, we are the only hope left.

[GenomVirues]

Cold War 2!!!

I wonder which side the VCP with ally with? Russia? U.S? or play cool with both sides? More likely they'll go with Russia...


I already know which side the VNCH on


History is about to repeat itself? It's back the the 70's again, but only time will tell. Or maybe I'm just paranoid

Russia tests world's most powerful vacuum bomb

MOSCOW, September 11 (RIA Novosti) - Russia has tested a thermobaric bomb that is the most powerful in the world, a top military official said Tuesday.

Known as a vacuum bomb, it uses a fuel-air explosive and can create overpressures equal to an atomic bomb, said Alexander Rukshin, deputy chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.

"It is environmentally friendly, compared to a nuclear bomb, and it will enable us to ensure national security and at the same time stand up to international terrorism in any part of the globe and in any situation," he said.

He stressed that the bomb does not violate any of the international agreements that Russia has signed.

U.S. develops 14-ton super bomb, bigger than Russian vacuum bomb


WASHINGTON, September 13 (RIA Novosti) - The U.S. has a 14-ton super bomb more destructive than the vacuum bomb just tested by Russia, a U.S. general said Wednesday.

The statement was made by retired Lt. General McInerney, chairman of the Iran Policy Committee, and former Assistant Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force.

McInerney said the U.S. has "a new massive ordnance penetrator that's 30,000 pounds, that really penetrates ... Ahmadinejad has nothing in Iran that we can't penetrate."

He also said the new Russian bomb was not a "penetrator."

On Tuesday, the Fox News television channel said: "A recent decision by German officials to withhold support for any new sanctions against Iran has pushed a broad spectrum of officials in Washington to develop potential scenarios for a military attack on the Islamic regime.".

Commenting on the report, McInerney said: "Since Germany has backed out of helping economically, we do not have any other choice. ... They've forced us into the military option."

McInerney described some possible military campaign scenarios and said: "The one I favor the most, of course, is an air campaign," he continued.

He said that bombing would be launched by 65-70 stealth bombers and 400 bombers of other types.

"Forty-eight hours duration, hitting 2500 aimed points to take out their [Iranian] nuclear facilities, their air defense facilities, their air force, their navy, their Shahab-3 retaliatory missiles, and finally their command and control. And then let the Iranian people take their country back," the general said describing the campaign, adding it would be "easy."

McInerney is well-known among the U.S. conservatives. He is the chairman of the Iran Policy Committee co-chaired by James Woolsey, former CIA director, William A. Nitze, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Richard Schifter, former Assistant Secretary of State, and Professor Raymond Tanter, former Personal Representative of the Secretary of Defense to arms control talks in Europe.

The McInerney statement was made following a Fox News report that U.S. "officials are making plans to attack Iran as early as next summer," since Washington believes diplomatic efforts have failed.

This post has been edited by GenomVirues: Sep 16 2007, 12:16 AM

[dalatian]

I'm eagerly awaiting for the peaceful passing of hardliners from both Hanoi and Saigon. More relevant is the passing of those in Hanoi, since they are in power.

Of the 3 big boys right now, only Nong Duc Manh is from the north. Both Nguyen Tan Dung and Nguyen Minh Triet hail from the south.

[VietGuy7]

^ Lol, I meant in the sense of North Vietnam and South Vietnam.

Edit: I'm predicting that Vietnam (Cuba, China too) will eventually go democratic in about 30-50 years (perhaps longer for China and sooner for Cuba), the same way that the Soviet Union, Nicaragua, etc. have gone. But for this to happen, the old hardliners must die off first--and necessarily peacefully too! Then the younger, western educated, more progressive, more scientific, non dogmatic, fully pragmatic, more dynamic leaders will make reforms that ultimately lead to democracy. As the years and decades roll by, the shift of power will increasingly go from the government to the private sector.

Ultimately, there will be a tipping point.

This post has been edited by VietGuy7: Sep 16 2007, 12:42 AM

[phreezen]

^ Lol, I meant in the sense of North Vietnam and South Vietnam.

Edit: I'm predicting that Vietnam (Cuba, China too) will eventually go democratic in about 30-50 years (perhaps longer for China and sooner for Cuba), the same way that the Soviet Union, Nicaragua, etc. have gone. But for this to happen, the old hardliners must die off first--and necessarily peacefully too! Then the younger, western educated, more progressive, more scientific, non dogmatic, fully pragmatic, more dynamic leaders will make reforms that ultimately lead to democracy. As the years and decades roll by, the shift of power will increasingly go from the government to the private sector.

Ultimately, there will be a tipping point.

We have democracy now. If you want American style democracy in the next 30-50 years, I would recommend you not hold your breath....


In about 30-50 years America's democracy will resemble Vietnam's.....

This post has been edited by phreezen: Sep 16 2007, 01:33 AM

[papabearvn]

Of the 3 big boys right now, only Nong Duc Manh is from the north. Both Nguyen Tan Dung and Nguyen Minh Triet hail from the south.

You forget about Mr. Le Hong Anh, Minister of Public Security, ranked No. 2 in the Politburo. This is the person much in charge of our geo-strategic relationships, although all his visits to other countries are not likely to get attention from western media.

[papabearvn]

^ Lol, I meant in the sense of North Vietnam and South Vietnam.

Edit: I'm predicting that Vietnam (Cuba, China too) will eventually go democratic in about 30-50 years (perhaps longer for China and sooner for Cuba), the same way that the Soviet Union, Nicaragua, etc. have gone. But for this to happen, the old hardliners must die off first--and necessarily peacefully too! Then the younger, western educated, more progressive, more scientific, non dogmatic, fully pragmatic, more dynamic leaders will make reforms that ultimately lead to democracy. As the years and decades roll by, the shift of power will increasingly go from the government to the private sector.

Ultimately, there will be a tipping point.

If all countries can be like that ... uhm... I have a sense that the flat world is kind of utopia , I hope that I'm wrong.

[PB.]

hi iam a vietnamese elder

[nguoicasison]

i say dont passs $hitt. keep the powerr till dey diee denn passs. no explanationn neededd.