Anti-Asian tirades in the Philippines Options

[ocrapdm]

Filipinos seem like anti-fellow Asians.

1. The 60 year old Japanese who "punched" the governor's daughter in the Ninoy Aquino International Airport gets jailed, while the US Serviceman convicted rapist was not even brought to Philippine jails and is still technically in US sovereignty (embassy). WHat's more shocking is that Filipinos even blame the poor girl who was raped, when it is in fact the fault of the serviceman, who can't control his urges. (Apparently, a schoolgirl who was raped in Japan and a grandmother who was also raped in Korea, both by US servicemen, were all convicted, with NO Japanese or Koreans blaming the schoolgirl or the grandmother. OF course the story of the Filipina wives of US servicemen protesting against the decision of Judge Pozon to convict the rapist is simply appaling - 'halatang tuta ng kano'.

2. Korean builder Hanjin Corporation is being forced by so-called environmentalists and nationalists to relinquish their building of comdominiums on the forest of Subic with the reasons of 1) destroying the environment and 2) impinging Philippine sovereignty, but isn't that actually done by United States in over 50 military bases in the country, particularly in the Subic Freeport, where the current Hanjin company is based?

3. Filipinos would rather have an American superpower, rather than a Chinese superpower, which by the way, is actually better, because of a common Asian heritage.

4. Philippines claim Spratly Islands, Scarborough Shoal, Palmas Islands, and Sabah from neighboring Asian countries, while it cannot even claim Guam, Marianas Islands, and Palau, which are all provinces of the Philippines during the Spanish Era (notwithstanding the similar language, culture, and ancestry we Filipinos with them) - just because the latter areas are being colonized by Whites.

5. Filipinos would even rather give the Spratlys to the US, rather than to Vietnam, China, Brunei Malaysia, or Taiwan. Of course, there are still active elements calling for the Philippine statehood under the United States. WHy, it is even apparent why the US supports Philippine claim over the Spratlys, beause it knows it can benefit from the Spratlys, since the Philippine government is actually a puppet of the US government, at least in many ways.

Of course it is not unknown among history circles that the reaso the US colonized the Philippines is because they, especially their racist legislators, is to transfer their African-American populations here. Of course, they know that this would further confuse our demographic composition, but of course, it's safe to assume that they don't care.

It would not also be an overstatement that Filipinos smile heartily while serving Caucasian customers (I saw once in Glorietta), while maintaining their not so happy countenance to fellow Asian customers (eg, Koreans and Japanese).

It is also not surprising while KOREANS, JAPANESE, and CHINESE all get racist catcalls (e.g., intsik, chinese, tsekwa, krung-krung, sakang) while CAUCASIANS don't have such (the term obviously does not qualify). Filipino hospitality is only to the CAUCASIAN, not to the EAST ASIANS, who feel like being treated lower, if not even equal, with the CAUCASIANS. Of course, we hear GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS (e.g., Mayor of a city and a governor in Mindanao) punching, slapping, and even shouting tirades against Koreans, but they wouldn't do that to an American.

There is also the chismis of Filipinos who complain of too much CHINESE or too much KOREAN, but they shout praises about too much AMERICANS in the Philippines. Of course, unsurprisingly, Americans make up the top spot in the number of foreign marriages to Filipinas.

It should also be of no amazement, that we are the only country in Asia who has not been affected by the Korean Wave phenomenon. There are a lot of scheduled release of Mexican and Colombian Telenovelas this year and next year.

Just watch Pinoy Big Brother Teen Edtion, most, if not all of them, are European halfies. It should rather be aptly named International Big Brother rather than Pinoy, because whenever it is aired it looks like its from Europe or America. Of course, I haven't read something like a Filipino complaining or sending a letter to the management of the TV company about the "misleading title" or the "preponderance of non-Filipinos" (whichever you prefer). ABS-CBN and GMA and their subsidiaries keeps on "importing" Eurasian (or Australasian) and Amerasian peoples (examples include San Milby, Anne Curtis, Gerald Anderson, Jake Cuenca, and a lot others)

Filipinos should learn to relate more to their Asian nehgbors rather than to America or Europeans, etc. If there was a non-Caucasian country who wouls qualify for admission to Stormfront, hands down, it would be the Philippines.

I understand I might get a lot of hate replies to these "truths", but then, if the Philippines wants to emerge as an Asian tiger, it should cut its dependency to America and its Colonial Mentality (One person says, "Filipinos worship Whites" = somewhat true).

[*promo]

what can i say... colonial mentality is a disease that plagued Filipinos of decades. They are easily swayed into "thinking" what the media does.

c'monnnnnnnnnn.....you can see it here with Filipinos that actually live there. they wish to have the spanish back! -sad

[*promo]

bridge the gap ...Filipino Americans need to take over Philippines!

[Skulls&Bones]

bridge the gap ...Filipino Americans need to take over Philippines!

Filipinos in the Philippines dont want their sellout compatriots back. They gave the middle fingers to their mother land for better lives in other country when they left. So, just enjoy the good lives you're experiencing now and forget about the Philippines.

Thats what ive read from other forums from Filipinos in the Philippines about Filipino American.

This post has been edited by Skulls&Bones: Apr 25 2008, 10:55 AM

[*promo]

Filipinos in the Philippines dont want their sellout compatriots back. They gave the middle fingers to their mother land for better lives in other country when they left. So, just enjoy the good lives you're experiencing now and forget about the Philippines.

Thats what ive read from other forums from Filipinos in the Philippines about Filipino American.

fu-k u and fu-k u for re instilling stereo type! and i'm talking about Fil-Ams not FOBS!

you need take look around and see whats really going on with Filipino American now days.

[Skulls&Bones]

fu-k u and fu-k u for re instilling stereo type! and i'm talking about Fil-Ams not FOBS!

you need take look around and see whats really going on with Filipino American now days.

What stereotype are you talking about? and whats the difference between Fil-Ams and FOBS, FOBS are FIl-Ams no? No boy, stay where you are and enjoy what uncle Sam is shovin ur @$$.

[P. Bredahl]

Stop making it sound as if Koreans, Japanese and Chinese people are fu-king victims in the Philippines. As far as i know theyre much better off than many Filipinos in their own countries.

And you obviously havent seen Big Brother from Europe or America if you think Big Brother Pinoy looks like that

This post has been edited by P. Bredahl: Apr 25 2008, 11:26 AM

[xzsurf]

its true some filipinos worship americans..

[Iki]

Anti-asian?. Are you freakin' kidding me???. We opened our arms to the chinese for centuries, even the japanese after the war. GTFO here you troll....

[flipcombatmedic]

First of all how can there be Anti-Asian tirades when Filipinos are Asian?

Second, some of these are generalizations. There's a book written by a Filipino political scientist (or historian) about Anti-Americanism in the Philipppines. I think one of his major arguments were that a lot of is never discussed and never given much attention, even though it was prevalent. He relates is to the reason why both Americans and Filipinos don't remember the Filipino-American War.

Third, "Rather the U.S. than China..." fu-k I'd rather NO superpower.

Fourth, Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese have their own 'fan-base' in the Philippines, and I'm not talking about their media (or media only <<<< let's not get started there). I've known so many girls in my old neighborhood who were married or had relationships e.g. had a boyfriend had a baby etc. with Chinese (HK) and Japanese who treated them like $hit (family and all, treated them like an anomaly in the family, given that Southeast Asians are also mistreated and looked down upon by East Asians in some occasions), yet expound (because merely because these countries are rich) as if these people were better than Filipinos.

Fifth, as if this happens only in the Philippines or amongst Filipinos. There were several times in Hawaii when my mother was put aside a white customer in a Thai restaurant over a white tourist, I told my mom that maybe it was a mistake or it was just an anomaly, obviously several locals and Filipinos who she talked to have had similar experiences. When I ate at a Vietnamese restaurant (not all of course) here, I was more or less treated like a Mexican, when older white people were given better service. I was waited to be attended to for 20 mins, which by the time other customers (white) had just gotten their order, when I was there at least five minutes before.

[*promo]

What stereotype are you talking about? and whats the difference between Fil-Ams and FOBS, FOBS are FIl-Ams no? No boy, stay where you are and enjoy what uncle Sam is shovin ur @$$.

STFU crab...what you want some white hairy sugar daddy for Philippine huh.

regardless what you say, FILIPINO-American WILL start to HELP, Philippines.

selfish motherfu-ks!

[risip]

It would not also be an overstatement that Filipinos smile heartily while serving Caucasian customers (I saw once in Glorietta), while maintaining their not so happy countenance to fellow Asian customers (eg, Koreans and Japanese).

Not contesting this but way I see it personally, "white" customers seems more "generous" and more often to say "thank you" than others - at least in an Asian country. Idk, but probably they do it at most since: (1) these are more foreign places they are not familiar to; (2) most other Asian folks may take it for granted since we share some of their culture and thus have some familiarity with the places here (not to mention that it's hard for many of them not to compare with what they have at home).

"White" folks appreciating Asia have been rare until only in recent history that's why it takes more convincing them that we are being in par (or even better) with them through service and hospitality - animosity towards them creates negative impressions leading to unlikely stereotypes. IMO, the "kind treatment" should have been equal to everybody, but also nothing beats how the mentality stayed how, particularly the Americans, have been the "liberators" during the last World War, so they've been given than most.

This post has been edited by risip: Apr 25 2008, 02:27 PM

[sitataymo]

Filipinos seem like anti-fellow Asians.

4. Philippines claim Spratly Islands, Scarborough Shoal, Palmas Islands, and Sabah from neighboring Asian countries, while it cannot even claim Guam, Marianas Islands, and Palau, which are all provinces of the Philippines during the Spanish Era (notwithstanding the similar language, culture, and ancestry we Filipinos with them) - just because the latter areas are being colonized by Whites.

You have no clue as to what you're talking about.
These people would object to any Philippine claim over their sovereignty just as much as Filipinos would object to any Chinese or US control over their sovereignty. Don't even try and suggest that the similiarities of culture, language and ancestry is the common bond with these people, they are more independent and self reliant than most provinces in the Philippines.
You would have a disaster waiting to happen if you were even to claim that the people from these regions want any part of another country's hands in their affairs, exactly what is happening with the Moros in the southern part of the Philippines.

It's true that you see alot of Filipinos suck up to whites within the Philippines, but you would not see that outside of the Philippines. If anything, Filipinos born and raised outside of Philippines see themselves as equal or more capable than whites and do question actions or situations that discredit their existence, something that the Philippines should practice when dealing with foreigners within the archipelago.

[*promo]

this guy best said it, even though i don't completely agree with some his articles, this one just hit me too hard, too real.

Worried about racial discrimination when travelling overseas? Try to evaluate your current standing in your own country. Just by virtue of your regional accent, skin tone, alma mater, and even height, you are discriminated against in your own country.

In the presence of foreigners, we Filipinos are often reduced to sheepishly-smiling and highly-accommodating buffoons. No wonder we are touted as a friendly and hospitable people. With the proper attitude and flair, most foreigners can make their way into any Philippine society clique, gain access through any security measure, and secure limelight space in Philippine showbiz – generally schmooze their way into the hearts of the political and social elite of the country. For us, mere association with one of them is a validation of our place in our own society. Imelda Marcos was the most famous embodiment of this trait.

With the amount of preferential treatment that is given to foreigners in this country, we are lucky that we haven’t yet found ourselves hosts to a new generation of foreign carpetbaggers and opportunists. Yet foreigners get better service at restaurants and banks and are given serious consideration when they raise a stink about anything. Among ourselves, however, complaining about bad service, raising relevant issues, or even standing up for certain principles in a serious manner goes against every principle of our â€ËÅ“pakikisama’ mentality and general apathetic disposition.

sound all too familiar around here too as Filiipnos here too either love spanish/Americans. they can never see themselves as equal or more.

This post has been edited by *promo: Apr 25 2008, 07:08 PM

[Sonofvisayas]

It's very evident that filipinos love americans, i mean just look what country has themost Filipinos

[NeoVxR]

plz PMFJI
without the filipinos, who to me seem the most "global" people on earth, the danger of conflict between the west and asia would be much bigger.
the masses are just ill-informed, common people from all continents should seek to associate against the warmongers, intrigantes and exploiters.
I am very much for mutual respect.
plz don't forget us europeans, we even come into trouble because we refuse the black-and-white thinking. but we have had enough of nationalism.

[ocrapdm]

Stop making it sound as if Koreans, Japanese and Chinese people are fu-king victims in the Philippines. As far as i know theyre much better off than many Filipinos in their own countries.

And you obviously havent seen Big Brother from Europe or America if you think Big Brother Pinoy looks like that

It's not even a matter of being more economically superior or being more rich than Filipinos. It's all about how Filipinos treat them. They're really victims in the Philippines, just ask one of them (or rather, read a newspaper). Like it seems you haven't been living in the Philippines for a long time.

Everyone can see that if an American gets violated or murdered, it usually makes headlines, but when other Asians gets such treatment, they don't really obtain such media representation.

What I'm saying is that a lot of Pinoy Big Brother contestants rather look like thoe from Big Brother from Europe/America/Latin America, I'm not saying that each and everyone of the PBB contestants are Caucasians, beause if it were, PBB would gain the highest rating spot in Philippine television, everybody knows that.

[ocrapdm]

Anti-asian?. Are you freakin' kidding me???. We opened our arms to the chinese for centuries, even the japanese after the war. GTFO here you troll....

During President Magsaysay up until Marcos era there were actually limits to the entrance of other Asians, particularly Chinese. Marcos even banned the teaching of Chinese language among the CHinese schools.

President Quezon actually welcomed thousands of Jews during the World War I to the Philippines (and that's fine), but then, he banned "Orientals", particularly Chinese and Japanese from enterig and settling in the Philippines.

Yes, admit it or not Philippines is a bit anti-Asian, or more aptly, anti-East Asian.

[ocrapdm]

First of all how can there be Anti-Asian tirades when Filipinos are Asian?

Second, some of these are generalizations. There's a book written by a Filipino political scientist (or historian) about Anti-Americanism in the Philipppines. I think one of his major arguments were that a lot of is never discussed and never given much attention, even though it was prevalent. He relates is to the reason why both Americans and Filipinos don't remember the Filipino-American War.

Third, "Rather the U.S. than China..." fu-k I'd rather NO superpower.

Fourth, Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese have their own 'fan-base' in the Philippines, and I'm not talking about their media (or media only <<<< let's not get started there). I've known so many girls in my old neighborhood who were married or had relationships e.g. had a boyfriend had a baby etc. with Chinese (HK) and Japanese who treated them like $hit (family and all, treated them like an anomaly in the family, given that Southeast Asians are also mistreated and looked down upon by East Asians in some occasions), yet expound (because merely because these countries are rich) as if these people were better than Filipinos.

Fifth, as if this happens only in the Philippines or amongst Filipinos. There were several times in Hawaii when my mother was put aside a white customer in a Thai restaurant over a white tourist, I told my mom that maybe it was a mistake or it was just an anomaly, obviously several locals and Filipinos who she talked to have had similar experiences. When I ate at a Vietnamese restaurant (not all of course) here, I was more or less treated like a Mexican, when older white people were given better service. I was waited to be attended to for 20 mins, which by the time other customers (white) had just gotten their order, when I was there at least five minutes before.

First = this post should rather be anti-East Asian, but even though, Filipinos are rather fond of Americans than fellow Southeast Asians either, so it does not make any difference.

Second = It's by Renato Constantino. Filipinos and Americans don't remeber the Filipino-American War because it was not widely taught in schools, and even now, it is just taught for two hours (or two sessions) in elementary classes, while the 'great contributions fo the American legacy' is taught almost half of the whole school year.

Third = Better have a superpower of the same race than no superpower (well, for me it's this way).

Fourth = LOL. Filipinos only watch Korean drama series with 'pretty and handsome' characters (i.e., Caucasian-looking Koreans . there are a lot of them, btw). It's not just the Chinese and Japanese who treat them 'like $hit - there are a lot of Pinays mutilated and killed by their Caucasian (mostly American, Canadian, and Australian) husbands/boyfriends. Even the recent blogging scandal (DJ and Brian Gorrell) testifies to this.


Fifth = THat's why we need to change our sentiments and ideas, that just because it is done in other countries we should do it too (Hawaii is in the US). Other Asian countries don't really show too much of this obvious biased favoritism.

[ocrapdm]

You have no clue as to what you're talking about.
These people would object to any Philippine claim over their sovereignty just as much as Filipinos would object to any Chinese or US control over their sovereignty. Don't even try and suggest that the similiarities of culture, language and ancestry is the common bond with these people, they are more independent and self reliant than most provinces in the Philippines.
You would have a disaster waiting to happen if you were even to claim that the people from these regions want any part of another country's hands in their affairs, exactly what is happening with the Moros in the southern part of the Philippines.

It's true that you see alot of Filipinos suck up to whites within the Philippines, but you would not see that outside of the Philippines. If anything, Filipinos born and raised outside of Philippines see themselves as equal or more capable than whites and do question actions or situations that discredit their existence, something that the Philippines should practice when dealing with foreigners within the archipelago.

Well, during Spanish period, Moro in the southern Philippines were not actually a part of Filipinas, but Guam, Palau, and Marianas Islands are - in fact, the Chamorros are classified and considered as members of the "Visaya/Bisaya" group of people. It's really not a matter of conquering them, but a matter of talking how the Philippine government is inept in presenting its claims against the American nation.

On the second discussion, NO = Filipino Americans actually have a great deal of Depression and Suicides as compared to their fellow Asian Americas and the General US Average , according to a Fil-Am researcher named Sustento-Seneriches because, s/he postulates, of their Colonial Mentality and inferiority complex.