Anti-Asian tirades in the Philippines Options

[BatangDamo]

Well, you know what the Japanese said during WW2. Asians for asia....... how bout that.
Look what happened....

[ocrapdm]

Well, you know what the Japanese said during WW2. Asians for asia....... how bout that.
Look what happened....

What about the Spanish and the Americans? (Balangiga Massacre, Philippine-American War, and other hundreds and thousands of countless warfare)

For one thing though, the Japanese did not commit the 'atrocities' against other Asian countries, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, and Indochina. In fact, it is well documented that they helped steer the natives out of the American bombers during their defeat. I'm not defending the Japanese or what, but the reason they were treating the Filipinos as such because the Filipinos are too much pro-American (of course this is wrong, but then if you place into mind what the Japanese were noted for - their hospitable treatment of other Asians, this makes you wonder if this is really necessary).

Masaharu Homma: "You Filipinos cannot hange the fact that you are Orientals", referring to the preponderance of American and Hispanic culture here.

THe main issue in World War II is American intervention. MONROE DOCTRINE limited American influence to the American continent (which by itself is wrong, anyway), and this makes it effectively clear that US is out of Asia.

Everybody knows US bombed Japan, and this resulted to the wiping-out of 80,000 or more people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - the wiped out zones were called "Ground Zero". Sounds very familiar, especially when you recall 9-11. (The Americans were tired of Japanese, the Arabs were tired of the US), but you see, US occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, with much brutality and force, while Japan did not (the US even got a lot of Japanese territories ad colonies which included Palau, Northern Marianas, Volcano Islands, and give Sakhalin and Kuril Islands to the USSR).

US is exerting too much influene on the world today and through such, destroys cultures around the world (the Philippine culture is one such example, and the Japanese culture is coming next).

The US has absolutely no right in maintaining troop presence in Asia just as Asians have no right maintaining troop presence in the US.
US Culture and White Worship has no right to stay in the Philippines, even as Asian Culture and Asian Worship has no right in the US.

Even one scoffer said, "If you [the Philippines] were colonized by other European power, who only lose your sovereignty, but if you are colonized by the US, you lose your sovereignty, economy, and culture. If you were colonized by Japan a little longer, just as Korea was, you'd be an Asian tiger by now".

[Pogpog]

^^^^

Would have agreed with some of your assertions but since a lot of them is twisted, I don't want to refute or corroborate them.

All I can say is it's a lot of --- BULL CRAP!!!

[ocrapdm]

Oh well, everybody's entitld to their own opinions.

Everything what I've said are facts from history and from current events.

[Pogpog]

Oh well, everybody's entitld to their own opinions.

Everything what I've said are facts from history and from current events.

half fact and half truths, yes.

[Iki]

What about the Spanish and the Americans? (Balangiga Massacre, Philippine-American War, and other hundreds and thousands of countless warfare)

For one thing though, the Japanese did not commit the 'atrocities' against other Asian countries, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, and Indochina. In fact, it is well documented that they helped steer the natives out of the American bombers during their defeat. I'm not defending the Japanese or what, but the reason they were treating the Filipinos as such because the Filipinos are too much pro-American (of course this is wrong, but then if you place into mind what the Japanese were noted for - their hospitable treatment of other Asians, this makes you wonder if this is really necessary).

Masaharu Homma: "You Filipinos cannot hange the fact that you are Orientals", referring to the preponderance of American and Hispanic culture here.

THe main issue in World War II is American intervention. MONROE DOCTRINE limited American influence to the American continent (which by itself is wrong, anyway), and this makes it effectively clear that US is out of Asia.

Everybody knows US bombed Japan, and this resulted to the wiping-out of 80,000 or more people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - the wiped out zones were called "Ground Zero". Sounds very familiar, especially when you recall 9-11. (The Americans were tired of Japanese, the Arabs were tired of the US), but you see, US occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, with much brutality and force, while Japan did not (the US even got a lot of Japanese territories ad colonies which included Palau, Northern Marianas, Volcano Islands, and give Sakhalin and Kuril Islands to the USSR).

US is exerting too much influene on the world today and through such, destroys cultures around the world (the Philippine culture is one such example, and the Japanese culture is coming next).

The US has absolutely no right in maintaining troop presence in Asia just as Asians have no right maintaining troop presence in the US.
US Culture and White Worship has no right to stay in the Philippines, even as Asian Culture and Asian Worship has no right in the US.

Even one scoffer said, "If you [the Philippines] were colonized by other European power, who only lose your sovereignty, but if you are colonized by the US, you lose your sovereignty, economy, and culture. If you were colonized by Japan a little longer, just as Korea was, you'd be an Asian tiger by now".

THAT WAS ONE BULLSH*T POST. CAN YOU LIE EVEN MORE?.

[sitataymo]

Well, during Spanish period, Moro in the southern Philippines were not actually a part of Filipinas, but Guam, Palau, and Marianas Islands are - in fact, the Chamorros are classified and considered as members of the "Visaya/Bisaya" group of people. It's really not a matter of conquering them, but a matter of talking how the Philippine government is inept in presenting its claims against the American nation.

On the second discussion, NO = Filipino Americans actually have a great deal of Depression and Suicides as compared to their fellow Asian Americas and the General US Average , according to a Fil-Am researcher named Sustento-Seneriches because, s/he postulates, of their Colonial Mentality and inferiority complex.

First, the people of the Marianas stand on their own identity and do not owe allegiance to people that ruled over them from a third party, the Spanish. To claim them for our own because they have the same resemblance, culturally, linguistically and for reasons of scientific classification is like claiming Taiwan, who will also become defensive if any country was to claim them as their own.

Your second statement is BULL$hit. Plain and simple. No facts, no data, no links to a source, just out of your own imagination so you can try and justify your point of view.
Ask yourself, how many Fil-Ams have you read in this forum or any other forum talking negatively of their life. Filipinos who can live both abroad and in the Philippines have the best of both worlds, how can anyone complain about that?

[ocrapdm]

First, the people of the Marianas stand on their own identity and do not owe allegiance to people that ruled over them from a third party, the Spanish. To claim them for our own because they have the same resemblance, culturally, linguistically and for reasons of scientific classification is like claiming Taiwan, who will also become defensive if any country was to claim them as their own.

Your second statement is BULL$hit. Plain and simple. No facts, no data, no links to a source, just out of your own imagination so you can try and justify your point of view.
Ask yourself, how many Fil-Ams have you read in this forum or any other forum talking negatively of their life. Filipinos who can live both abroad and in the Philippines have the best of both worlds, how can anyone complain about that?

Well, firstly, Marianas belonged to the Philippines for 333 years, and there are frequent contacts between the two, especially before Hispaic incursions into the country. Marianas comfortably belonged to the philippines until the US came and brainwashed them and gave them Colonial Mentality (which relates to why Guamanians and other Chamorros now hate being part-Filipino).

Second, like it or not, FIL-AMS do have the HIGHEST SUICIDE and DEPRESSION rate among Asian Americans, and they also do DISCRIMINATE AGAINST FOBs, you can read all about it in the Sustento=Seneriches article and in another article by Okazaki and David, entitled "Colonial Mentality", which is a study about Filipino Americans. These ARE FACTS, SOURCES, FROM A SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION - NAMELY, the AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. You can search this in psycnet.com. All others who state otherwise are obviously either ignorant or just refuse to acknowledge their inferiority complex. So, this is no "BULL$hit", as you've said - rather, these are IMMEDIATE problems requiring IMMEDIATE solutions.

This post has been edited by ocrapdm: Apr 26 2008, 09:52 AM

[flipcombatmedic]

First = this post should rather be anti-East Asian, but even though, Filipinos are rather fond of Americans than fellow Southeast Asians either, so it does not make any difference.

Second = It's by Renato Constantino. Filipinos and Americans don't remeber the Filipino-American War because it was not widely taught in schools, and even now, it is just taught for two hours (or two sessions) in elementary classes, while the 'great contributions fo the American legacy' is taught almost half of the whole school year.

Third = Better have a superpower of the same race than no superpower (well, for me it's this way).

Fourth = LOL. Filipinos only watch Korean drama series with 'pretty and handsome' characters (i.e., Caucasian-looking Koreans . there are a lot of them, btw). It's not just the Chinese and Japanese who treat them 'like $hit - there are a lot of Pinays mutilated and killed by their Caucasian (mostly American, Canadian, and Australian) husbands/boyfriends. Even the recent blogging scandal (DJ and Brian Gorrell) testifies to this.
Fifth = THat's why we need to change our sentiments and ideas, that just because it is done in other countries we should do it too (Hawaii is in the US). Other Asian countries don't really show too much of this obvious biased favoritism.

First, exactly! If Filipinos don't like (I'll use that terminology because you do, but in no way as a whole true) East Asians, if they don't like Southeast Asians, and they have undocumented Anti-Americanism...well that's JUST NORMAL. It means they are truly individuals who are, most like everybody else, look for the most part inward. What is this external hatred? As if Japan, China, and Korea don't have any form of nationalistic xenophobia? How about "The Japanese Only"--some of which listed and barred Filipinos SPECIFICALLY---bars, even the Koreans had a "Korean Only" in Cebu! And as if SEAsian purely love each other either. When the Khmer Rouge were rampant in Cambodia, there were indigenous people (e.g. Cham) and the Viet minority were targeted. Look at the wars and the sometimes the animosities between Thais, Laos, Viet, and Khmer (and Filipinos). Look at the animosities between Indonesians and Malaysians...in fact if I remember correctly YOU kept posting "Give us back Sabah" in the Malaysian Chat. It's common, if not normal.

Second, I don't think it was that guy, but there is definitely a book on it, which I've used before when I was in college. And it wasn't the 'legacy of glorious American' phenomenon. And as far as I'm concerned I've we've been taught Fil-Am War very much when I was in school in the Philippnes...I mean in no way would Tirad Pass be forgotten if not for that. Majority of what I've learned in school in the Philippines were about the war and the struggle for independence.

Third, Ha! First of all same race? Are you Chinoy? That's why. For the rest of us Filipinos who constitute the bulk of the Philippines? Even if you were the same race, there's no guarantee that they'll be using you only for their interests. Also what is this benign idealism that for some reason because you are Asian (a Western construct ironically) they will open up their arms for you? Have you not learned 1898 when you change one master for another? When are we Filipinos going to think not as a lap dog but as an independent? All you're doing is changing one form of house N*ggaism for another. Philippine interests is Philippine interest, we have 'friends' and 'allies' but we should learn to like them (ALL OF THEM) only when they suit our interests and use rhetoric, as they do, for our interests. <<<<the first rule of realpolitik

Fourth, so you concede that there are people who harm Filipinos (REGARDLESS of race, Asian or not) then you took my point exactly. Everybody, including your fellow Filpinos in many cases, will treat you like $hit. It's not just whites! Stop making it as if East Asians had it bad in the Philippines, if anybody have it crap in the Philippines it is the local Filipinos. For example Chinese in the Philippines is one of the countries were you are treated much better than if you were in Indonesia or Malaysia, no pogroms, no governmental bias (in fact according to some authors, Chinese Filipinos tend to, traditionally stay out of politics...yet look at the wealth and the prestige they have established). Bulk of the Philippine wealth is controlled by Chinese.

Fifth, to the Japanese...there are no atrocities? There is a documentary about Indonesian and Japanese in WWII. And if anybody is concern, most people will probably talk about how great it was. Yet during that there were interviews of them saying "the Japanese were very cruel". This they only attack because of the Allies is totally crap and make the Japanese idol worship bias. And how about Thailand? It had no American ties. And you seemed to forget China and Korea. How about there in Nanjing, depending on which statistics, killed more in a week (slow and painful deaths) than two atomic bombs? And so much for the "we had to do it to escape European intrusion"<<<<when Japan had tried to conquer Korea way before the age of imperialism and tried all it can during the Co-Prosperity Years to undermine China (from taking Taiwan, the Sino-Japanese War to the Manchukuo affair against the Chinese reunification that started WWII in Asia). When will the Filipinos learn that RHETORIC IS RHETORIC. They only use Pan-Asianism, regionalism when it suits their interests. I'm not saying that's wrong, because everybody else do that and we should definitely start doing it, but don't let that go over your head. Let's look inward, be independent instead of making new demi-gods to worship. Yes white worship is wrong, but for BATHALA'S SAKE, don't replace it with yellow worship.

Sixth, this Filipino Americans having mental illnesses,...look at the Asian-Americans in general. Also because there is no study done, you can guarantee that there are some problems with Filipinos leaving elsewhere, e.g. Japan and Hongkong.

[philippines]

Well, firstly, Marianas belonged to the Philippines for 333 years, and there are frequent contacts between the two, especially before Hispaic incursions into the country. Marianas comfortably belonged to the philippines until the US came and brainwashed them and gave them Colonial Mentality (which relates to why Guamanians and other Chamorros now hate being part-Filipino).

Second, like it or not, FIL-AMS do have the HIGHEST SUICIDE and DEPRESSION rate among Asian Americans, and they also do DISCRIMINATE AGAINST FOBs, you can read all about it in the Sustento=Seneriches article and in another article by Okazaki and David, entitled "Colonial Mentality", which is a study about Filipino Americans. These ARE FACTS, SOURCES, FROM A SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION - NAMELY, the AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. You can search this in psycnet.com. All others who state otherwise are obviously either ignorant or just refuse to acknowledge their inferiority complex. So, this is no "BULL$hit", as you've said - rather, these are IMMEDIATE problems requiring IMMEDIATE solutions.

I might be reading your post the wrong way, but it sounds like you should focus more on yourself rather than on "hard facts". If you have depression or suicidal thoughts then I suggest seeing a professional instead of projecting it on to other people. Sure, I think it's sad that this is a problem in the Fil-am community, but don't project this on to me or my immediate Pinoy community because it's not true as far as I know. Besides, Japan and Korea have high suicide rates and the Philippines has a fairly low rate so maybe that means Fil-ams have a harder time adjusting, I don't know. If you have any ideas to remedy this situation then sure I'll support you and your cause.

Colonization happened a long time ago. Are you going to let these events affect your life right now?

Also preferential treatment to whites is nothing new, just visit the rest of Asia.

And please don't pay any attention to Skull&Bones he seems to have a permanent hate-on for Filipinos.

[sitataymo]

Well, firstly, Marianas belonged to the Philippines for 333 years, and there are frequent contacts between the two, especially before Hispaic incursions into the country. Marianas comfortably belonged to the philippines until the US came and brainwashed them and gave them Colonial Mentality (which relates to why Guamanians and other Chamorros now hate being part-Filipino).

The Marianas didn't belong to the Philippines, it belonged to the Spanish for 333 years. there was no Datu, no Filipino chief nor anything else that validates or suggests it 'belonged' to anyone before the Spanish came. The Chamorros were ruled independently by their own sovereignty: http://ns.gov.gu/people.html
The Chamorros have an Austronesian link but so does the rest of the Marianas and Micronesia in general yet they do not belong nor have they ever belonged to the Philippines by way of Filipino rule.
The Spanish colonial era represented themselves and not the Filipino people. The Spanish just used whatever means necessary to maintain their rule. And if it meant that they had to use Mexican and Filipinos to serve in their armies then that's what they did but don't get it confused with Philippines having ruled the Marianas through the Filipino people when decisions were made by the Spanish.
Much of the Chamorros that do have Filipino links are descendants from exiles that came before the US takeover. Through generations, because these exiles couldn't return to the Philippines, they intermarried into the local population and integrated the Chamorro ways. True that their descendants have Filipino links, but it ends there when these descendants never had a chance to identify themselves with their Filipino roots.
The Colonial Mentality that you speak of that you claim exists within these islands are all from your head. If you were to come to Guam, you would see signs in Chamorro and people practicing their ancient, pre Spanish ways; you would also see that the politicians have passed laws that preserve the rights of the indigenous. Laws that mirror indigenous laws of Hawaii, Alaska and Native Americans. The Chamorros are protective of their land and do not take for granted the misuse of the island for there is so little of it for future generations. The people are proud of their identity and see themselves as wholly Chamorro even when they are mixed with other ethnicities, unlike some Filipinos who stress that they are part something before they announce that they are Filipino.

Second, like it or not, FIL-AMS do have the HIGHEST SUICIDE and DEPRESSION rate among Asian Americans, and they also do DISCRIMINATE AGAINST FOBs, you can read all about it in the Sustento=Seneriches article and in another article by Okazaki and David, entitled "Colonial Mentality", which is a study about Filipino Americans. These ARE FACTS, SOURCES, FROM A SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION - NAMELY, the AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. You can search this in psycnet.com. All others who state otherwise are obviously either ignorant or just refuse to acknowledge their inferiority complex. So, this is no "BULL$hit", as you've said - rather, these are IMMEDIATE problems requiring IMMEDIATE solutions.

Books are good but you have yet to meet a Fil-Am who has emotional problems before you claim that the general population of Fil-Ams suffer from these psychological problems.
Discrimination is everywhere. Even Filipinos get discriminated with other Filipinos both in the Philippines and abroad. Nothing new.

This post has been edited by sitataymo: Apr 26 2008, 04:51 PM

[JakeCutter]

What about the Spanish and the Americans? (Balangiga Massacre, Philippine-American War, and other hundreds and thousands of countless warfare)

For one thing though, the Japanese did not commit the 'atrocities' against other Asian countries, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, and Indochina. In fact, it is well documented that they helped steer the natives out of the American bombers during their defeat. I'm not defending the Japanese or what, but the reason they were treating the Filipinos as such because the Filipinos are too much pro-American (of course this is wrong, but then if you place into mind what the Japanese were noted for - their hospitable treatment of other Asians, this makes you wonder if this is really necessary).

Masaharu Homma: "You Filipinos cannot hange the fact that you are Orientals", referring to the preponderance of American and Hispanic culture here.

THe main issue in World War II is American intervention. MONROE DOCTRINE limited American influence to the American continent (which by itself is wrong, anyway), and this makes it effectively clear that US is out of Asia.

Everybody knows US bombed Japan, and this resulted to the wiping-out of 80,000 or more people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - the wiped out zones were called "Ground Zero". Sounds very familiar, especially when you recall 9-11. (The Americans were tired of Japanese, the Arabs were tired of the US), but you see, US occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, with much brutality and force, while Japan did not (the US even got a lot of Japanese territories ad colonies which included Palau, Northern Marianas, Volcano Islands, and give Sakhalin and Kuril Islands to the USSR).

US is exerting too much influene on the world today and through such, destroys cultures around the world (the Philippine culture is one such example, and the Japanese culture is coming next).

The US has absolutely no right in maintaining troop presence in Asia just as Asians have no right maintaining troop presence in the US.
US Culture and White Worship has no right to stay in the Philippines, even as Asian Culture and Asian Worship has no right in the US.

Even one scoffer said, "If you [the Philippines] were colonized by other European power, who only lose your sovereignty, but if you are colonized by the US, you lose your sovereignty, economy, and culture. If you were colonized by Japan a little longer, just as Korea was, you'd be an Asian tiger by now".

What about Manchuria? They used much brutality there.

[ocrapdm]

First, exactly! If Filipinos don't like (I'll use that terminology because you do, but in no way as a whole true) East Asians, if they don't like Southeast Asians, and they have undocumented Anti-Americanism...well that's JUST NORMAL. It means they are truly individuals who are, most like everybody else, look for the most part inward. What is this external hatred? As if Japan, China, and Korea don't have any form of nationalistic xenophobia? How about "The Japanese Only"--some of which listed and barred Filipinos SPECIFICALLY---bars, even the Koreans had a "Korean Only" in Cebu! And as if SEAsian purely love each other either. When the Khmer Rouge were rampant in Cambodia, there were indigenous people (e.g. Cham) and the Viet minority were targeted. Look at the wars and the sometimes the animosities between Thais, Laos, Viet, and Khmer (and Filipinos). Look at the animosities between Indonesians and Malaysians...in fact if I remember correctly YOU kept posting "Give us back Sabah" in the Malaysian Chat. It's common, if not normal.

Second, I don't think it was that guy, but there is definitely a book on it, which I've used before when I was in college. And it wasn't the 'legacy of glorious American' phenomenon. And as far as I'm concerned I've we've been taught Fil-Am War very much when I was in school in the Philippnes...I mean in no way would Tirad Pass be forgotten if not for that. Majority of what I've learned in school in the Philippines were about the war and the struggle for independence.

Third, Ha! First of all same race? Are you Chinoy? That's why. For the rest of us Filipinos who constitute the bulk of the Philippines? Even if you were the same race, there's no guarantee that they'll be using you only for their interests. Also what is this benign idealism that for some reason because you are Asian (a Western construct ironically) they will open up their arms for you? Have you not learned 1898 when you change one master for another? When are we Filipinos going to think not as a lap dog but as an independent? All you're doing is changing one form of house N*ggaism for another. Philippine interests is Philippine interest, we have 'friends' and 'allies' but we should learn to like them (ALL OF THEM) only when they suit our interests and use rhetoric, as they do, for our interests. <<<<the first rule of realpolitik

Fourth, so you concede that there are people who harm Filipinos (REGARDLESS of race, Asian or not) then you took my point exactly. Everybody, including your fellow Filpinos in many cases, will treat you like $hit. It's not just whites! Stop making it as if East Asians had it bad in the Philippines, if anybody have it crap in the Philippines it is the local Filipinos. For example Chinese in the Philippines is one of the countries were you are treated much better than if you were in Indonesia or Malaysia, no pogroms, no governmental bias (in fact according to some authors, Chinese Filipinos tend to, traditionally stay out of politics...yet look at the wealth and the prestige they have established). Bulk of the Philippine wealth is controlled by Chinese.

Fifth, to the Japanese...there are no atrocities? There is a documentary about Indonesian and Japanese in WWII. And if anybody is concern, most people will probably talk about how great it was. Yet during that there were interviews of them saying "the Japanese were very cruel". This they only attack because of the Allies is totally crap and make the Japanese idol worship bias. And how about Thailand? It had no American ties. And you seemed to forget China and Korea. How about there in Nanjing, depending on which statistics, killed more in a week (slow and painful deaths) than two atomic bombs? And so much for the "we had to do it to escape European intrusion"<<<<when Japan had tried to conquer Korea way before the age of imperialism and tried all it can during the Co-Prosperity Years to undermine China (from taking Taiwan, the Sino-Japanese War to the Manchukuo affair against the Chinese reunification that started WWII in Asia). When will the Filipinos learn that RHETORIC IS RHETORIC. They only use Pan-Asianism, regionalism when it suits their interests. I'm not saying that's wrong, because everybody else do that and we should definitely start doing it, but don't let that go over your head. Let's look inward, be independent instead of making new demi-gods to worship. Yes white worship is wrong, but for BATHALA'S SAKE, don't replace it with yellow worship.

Sixth, this Filipino Americans having mental illnesses,...look at the Asian-Americans in general. Also because there is no study done, you can guarantee that there are some problems with Filipinos leaving elsewhere, e.g. Japan and Hongkong.

1st = Well, that exactly is the problem. Philippine Xenophobia is directed just toward fellow Asians (should I say, more on the East Asians), while it is virtually lacking in their treatment of Americans and other Europeans. And actually, if Sabah is going to the Philippines, which will (as always) give its rights to the United States, well, I'd rather say that the Malaysia and keep it or that Mindanao would be given independence (it's destined to have independence sometime in the future, anyways).

2nd = I even haven't studied Tirad Pass (and just studied Philippine-American War very briefly) in my Elementary, High School, and College courses (even though I went to schools generally known as "History-intensive". I wouldn't have known about Tirad Pass if I hadn't read it on Nationalist/Anti-US books written by Filipino nationalists.

3rd = No, I'm not Chinoy. But I do have Chinese blood, as the vast majority of the Philippine population do. (50-55% of the paternal Philippine genetic material is derived from Chinese people, with only 40-45% from the Taiwanese Aborigines. Malays and Filipinos do NOT constitute the same genetic pattern). Similar racial backgrounds do result to a harmonious relationship - wich is why most international organizations are regional (etc., ASEAN, MERCOSUR, NATO, etc.)

4th = Well, ever since my first post, I didn't wrote that Whites treated the Filipinos like "$hit", but rather, that Filipinos treat their fellow Filipinos like "$hit". The country which has the most assimilated and Chinese-friendly policies is Thailand. Bulk of Philippine wealth is controlled by FILIPINOS and FILIPINO-SPANISH - just read the top 100 rihest men and families in the Philippines in Forbes, and the list is not dominated by Chinese. In fact, the richest man i the Philippines is not a Chinoy, but a person of Spanish-German ancestry named Jaime Zobel de Ayala.

5th = I'm not saying that there was NO atrocities, I'm saying that the level of atroities is some respects (at least to fellow Asians) are negligible compared to what they did to the Philippines. In fact, Indonesian independence was helped by the Japanese. This is not yellow-worship, because East Asians aren't Yellow, they're White-skinned. It is the Caucasians who are rather Pink or Peach-skinned, and not White.

6th = Well, it's a cross-comparison study that shows that Filipinos have a great deal of depression or suicidal tendencies as compared with the general Asian American population and US public.

[Matapang]

1st = Well, that exactly is the problem. Philippine Xenophobia is directed just toward fellow Asians (should I say, more on the East Asians), while it is virtually lacking in their treatment of Americans and other Europeans. And actually, if Sabah is going to the Philippines, which will (as always) give its rights to the United States, well, I'd rather say that the Malaysia and keep it or that Mindanao would be given independence (it's destined to have independence sometime in the future, anyways).

2nd = I even haven't studied Tirad Pass (and just studied Philippine-American War very briefly) in my Elementary, High School, and College courses (even though I went to schools generally known as "History-intensive". I wouldn't have known about Tirad Pass if I hadn't read it on Nationalist/Anti-US books written by Filipino nationalists.

3rd = No, I'm not Chinoy. But I do have Chinese blood, as the vast majority of the Philippine population do. (50-55% of the paternal Philippine genetic material is derived from Chinese people, with only 40-45% from the Taiwanese Aborigines. Malays and Filipinos do NOT constitute the same genetic pattern). Similar racial backgrounds do result to a harmonious relationship - wich is why most international organizations are regional (etc., ASEAN, MERCOSUR, NATO, etc.)

4th = Well, ever since my first post, I didn't wrote that Whites treated the Filipinos like "$hit", but rather, that Filipinos treat their fellow Filipinos like "$hit". The country which has the most assimilated and Chinese-friendly policies is Thailand. Bulk of Philippine wealth is controlled by FILIPINOS and FILIPINO-SPANISH - just read the top 100 rihest men and families in the Philippines in Forbes, and the list is not dominated by Chinese. In fact, the richest man i the Philippines is not a Chinoy, but a person of Spanish-German ancestry named Jaime Zobel de Ayala.

5th = I'm not saying that there was NO atrocities, I'm saying that the level of atroities is some respects (at least to fellow Asians) are negligible compared to what they did to the Philippines. In fact, Indonesian independence was helped by the Japanese. This is not yellow-worship, because East Asians aren't Yellow, they're White-skinned. It is the Caucasians who are rather Pink or Peach-skinned, and not White.

6th = Well, it's a cross-comparison study that shows that Filipinos have a great deal of depression or suicidal tendencies as compared with the general Asian American population and US public.

So you're an expert now just because you passed this history class?

To suggest that the white skinned is the root of today's problems is to suggest that we should not look for answers but instead look for someone to blame for the ills of the world. All your doing is bending history to justify your hatred, something that racists have a pattern of doing when trying to denounce another race for propaganda's sake.

Yes, it is that obvious.

[speedygOnzalez]

So you're an expert now just because you passed this history class?

To suggest that the white skinned is the root of today's problems is to suggest that we should not look for answers but instead look for someone to blame for the ills of the world. All your doing is bending history to justify your hatred, something that racists have a pattern of doing when trying to denounce another race for propaganda's sake.

Yes, it is that obvious.

+10

[seximami]

Filipinos seem like anti-fellow Asians.

1. The 60 year old Japanese who "punched" the governor's daughter in the Ninoy Aquino International Airport gets jailed, while the US Serviceman convicted rapist was not even brought to Philippine jails and is still technically in US sovereignty (embassy). WHat's more shocking is that Filipinos even blame the poor girl who was raped, when it is in fact the fault of the serviceman, who can't control his urges. (Apparently, a schoolgirl who was raped in Japan and a grandmother who was also raped in Korea, both by US servicemen, were all convicted, with NO Japanese or Koreans blaming the schoolgirl or the grandmother. OF course the story of the Filipina wives of US servicemen protesting against the decision of Judge Pozon to convict the rapist is simply appaling - 'halatang tuta ng kano'.

2. Korean builder Hanjin Corporation is being forced by so-called environmentalists and nationalists to relinquish their building of comdominiums on the forest of Subic with the reasons of 1) destroying the environment and 2) impinging Philippine sovereignty, but isn't that actually done by United States in over 50 military bases in the country, particularly in the Subic Freeport, where the current Hanjin company is based?

3. Filipinos would rather have an American superpower, rather than a Chinese superpower, which by the way, is actually better, because of a common Asian heritage.

4. Philippines claim Spratly Islands, Scarborough Shoal, Palmas Islands, and Sabah from neighboring Asian countries, while it cannot even claim Guam, Marianas Islands, and Palau, which are all provinces of the Philippines during the Spanish Era (notwithstanding the similar language, culture, and ancestry we Filipinos with them) - just because the latter areas are being colonized by Whites.

5. Filipinos would even rather give the Spratlys to the US, rather than to Vietnam, China, Brunei Malaysia, or Taiwan. Of course, there are still active elements calling for the Philippine statehood under the United States. WHy, it is even apparent why the US supports Philippine claim over the Spratlys, beause it knows it can benefit from the Spratlys, since the Philippine government is actually a puppet of the US government, at least in many ways.

Of course it is not unknown among history circles that the reaso the US colonized the Philippines is because they, especially their racist legislators, is to transfer their African-American populations here. Of course, they know that this would further confuse our demographic composition, but of course, it's safe to assume that they don't care.

It would not also be an overstatement that Filipinos smile heartily while serving Caucasian customers (I saw once in Glorietta), while maintaining their not so happy countenance to fellow Asian customers (eg, Koreans and Japanese).

It is also not surprising while KOREANS, JAPANESE, and CHINESE all get racist catcalls (e.g., intsik, chinese, tsekwa, krung-krung, sakang) while CAUCASIANS don't have such (the term obviously does not qualify). Filipino hospitality is only to the CAUCASIAN, not to the EAST ASIANS, who feel like being treated lower, if not even equal, with the CAUCASIANS. Of course, we hear GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS (e.g., Mayor of a city and a governor in Mindanao) punching, slapping, and even shouting tirades against Koreans, but they wouldn't do that to an American.

There is also the chismis of Filipinos who complain of too much CHINESE or too much KOREAN, but they shout praises about too much AMERICANS in the Philippines. Of course, unsurprisingly, Americans make up the top spot in the number of foreign marriages to Filipinas.

It should also be of no amazement, that we are the only country in Asia who has not been affected by the Korean Wave phenomenon. There are a lot of scheduled release of Mexican and Colombian Telenovelas this year and next year.

Just watch Pinoy Big Brother Teen Edtion, most, if not all of them, are European halfies. It should rather be aptly named International Big Brother rather than Pinoy, because whenever it is aired it looks like its from Europe or America. Of course, I haven't read something like a Filipino complaining or sending a letter to the management of the TV company about the "misleading title" or the "preponderance of non-Filipinos" (whichever you prefer). ABS-CBN and GMA and their subsidiaries keeps on "importing" Eurasian (or Australasian) and Amerasian peoples (examples include San Milby, Anne Curtis, Gerald Anderson, Jake Cuenca, and a lot others)

Filipinos should learn to relate more to their Asian nehgbors rather than to America or Europeans, etc. If there was a non-Caucasian country who wouls qualify for admission to Stormfront, hands down, it would be the Philippines.

I understand I might get a lot of hate replies to these "truths", but then, if the Philippines wants to emerge as an Asian tiger, it should cut its dependency to America and its Colonial Mentality (One person says, "Filipinos worship Whites" = somewhat true).

I think every country that's somehow been affected by America (like has a US Base in their country) has somewhat been brainwashed into worshipping white ppl....no j/k....

even Korea has worshipped white ppl....but nowadays there are a new generation of young ppl who are anti-american and wants the US base out of their country....

seriously all asians should come together and stop being racist towards each other....

[Matapang]

I think every country that's somehow been affected by America (like has a US Base in their country) has somewhat been brainwashed into worshipping white ppl....no j/k....

even Korea has worshipped white ppl....but nowadays there are a new generation of young ppl who are anti-american and wants the US base out of their country....

seriously all asians should come together and stop being racist towards each other....

Only towards Asians?
That sounds like an oxymoron.

[seximami]

Only towards Asians?
That sounds like an oxymoron.

yeah....so?

[Pancakelamb]

I think every country that's somehow been affected by America (like has a US Base in their country) has somewhat been brainwashed into worshipping white ppl....no j/k....

even Korea has worshipped white ppl....but nowadays there are a new generation of young ppl who are anti-american and wants the US base out of their country....

seriously all asians should come together and stop being racist towards each other....

I see where this is going?

you are racist as well. You just showed up your true color.

[Pogpog]

yeah....so?

you're much better off than posting nonsensical stuff you just pulled out of your @$$.