Is Solong and songol Mongolian words? |
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Is Solong and songol Mongolian words? |
 Apr 28 2008, 01:03 AM
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AF Geek  Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 21-April 08  |
Koreans called spicy beef soup as Solong-tang and hawk as Songol.
They sound very much like Mongolian to me. Any clue? |
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Apr 28 2008, 06:40 AM
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AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 2,574 Joined: 17-November 07 From: Europe |
Solongos-Korea
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Apr 28 2008, 06:26 PM
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AF Fan  Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 15-April 08 From: melbourne aus |
QUOTE(Bulyowoo @ Apr 28 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]3665925[/snapback] Koreans called spicy beef soup as Solong-tang and hawk as Songol. They sound very much like Mongolian to me. Any clue? solongo - rainbow songolt - choice songuuli - election/s |
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Apr 29 2008, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(wildhog @ Apr 29 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]3667169[/snapback] solongo - rainbow songolt - choice songuuli - election/s thx 
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Apr 29 2008, 07:46 AM
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sonin-newspaper
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Apr 29 2008, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(UrbanCultureParanoia @ Apr 29 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]3668539[/snapback] sonin-newspaper Hmmm, we have somun as rumor or news. son-nim - guest |
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Apr 30 2008, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Bulyowoo @ Apr 29 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]3669682[/snapback] Hmmm, we have somun as rumor or news. son-nim - guest I'm 99.9% sure that those are Chinese loan words. "Solong" and "Songol" probably aren't, though. |
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Apr 30 2008, 06:53 PM
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you mean somun is xinwen (news) guest is keren or laibin I dont think sonim is a loan word. But give me the hanja and we can tell that
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May 1 2008, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(Darkblade @ May 1 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]3671575[/snapback] you mean somun is xinwen (news) guest is keren or laibin I dont think sonim is a loan word. But give me the hanja and we can tell that sorry I don't know hanja for son-nim. another one Sori-sound |
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May 2 2008, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Darkblade @ Apr 30 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]3671575[/snapback] you mean somun is xinwen (news) guest is keren or laibin I dont think sonim is a loan word. But give me the hanja and we can tell that Well... I looked it up and I guess it's not a loan word after all  . Somun (所聞) does not mean news, it means rumor. News is so-shik (消息). Bulyowoo It's really hard to find cognates between Korean and Mongolian because the majority of Korean vocabulary comes from Chinese. Rainbow Mongolian- solongo Korean- mujigae not even the native words sound alike 
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May 2 2008, 04:16 PM
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Come in -Oro or OR
Go out -GAra or Gar |
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May 2 2008, 04:16 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,574 Joined: 17-November 07 From: Europe |
A little or small in Mongolian -Jaahan or Johon
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May 2 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(UrbanCultureParanoia @ May 2 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]3675396[/snapback] Come in -Oro or OR Go out -GAra or Gar Korean Come in- deureowa (command); deureo-onda (__ing) Come- wa or wara, ora; onda Go out- naga or nagara; naganda Go- ga or gara; ganda Small- jageun, joguman 
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May 2 2008, 07:25 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,574 Joined: 17-November 07 From: Europe |
ok very close.Some are might be similiar like Mongolian.
When we say come in imperative Or or Oroo Of course this is Mongolian |
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May 2 2008, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(moolah @ May 2 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]3675393[/snapback] Well... I looked it up and I guess it's not a loan word after all . Somun (所聞) does not mean news, it means rumor. News is so-shik (消息). Bulyowoo It's really hard to find cognates between Korean and Mongolian because the majority of Korean vocabulary comes from Chinese. Rainbow Mongolian- solongo Korean- mujigae not even the native words sound alike Soshik (消息) = xiao xi = news haha It does sound like a loan word. Anyway, I think you guys have more similarities with tungusic language like manchu or xibe language instead of the mongolic mongolian. |
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May 3 2008, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Darkblade @ May 3 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]3676014[/snapback] Soshik (消息) = xiao xi = news haha It does sound like a loan word. Anyway, I think you guys have more similarities with tungusic language like manchu or xibe language instead of the mongolic mongolian. It's just too bad there isn't a Manchu Chat on here. But I don't think they'd speak much Manchu, anyway. Aisin Gioro Nurhaci Dorgon They don't sound very Korean. But doesn't Manchu have many Mongolian loanwords? |
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May 3 2008, 03:43 PM
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Yes...they have alot of Mongolian words..shame no body speaks Manchu these days!!!
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May 5 2008, 09:31 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,574 Joined: 17-November 07 From: Europe |
Baruunaasaa 2 dahi huuhen chin hen bileede
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May 7 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(moolah @ May 3 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]3675393[/snapback] Well... I looked it up and I guess it's not a loan word after all . Somun (所聞) does not mean news, it means rumor. News is so-shik (消息). Bulyowoo It's really hard to find cognates between Korean and Mongolian because the majority of Korean vocabulary comes from Chinese. Rainbow Mongolian- solongo Korean- mujigae not even the native words sound alike QUOTE(moolah @ May 4 2008, 06:29 AM) [snapback]3677138[/snapback] It's just too bad there isn't a Manchu Chat on here. But I don't think they'd speak much Manchu, anyway. Aisin Gioro Nurhaci Dorgon They don't sound very Korean. But doesn't Manchu have many Mongolian loanwords? Actually modern Koreans aren't same as used to be. It's heavy on Sino-Korean just like Japanese. Thanks to Han Dynasty and Ming Dynasy, Koreans became more Chinese in culture than fellow Mongolians or Mohe stocks. Manchus are related to Jurchens rather than original mohe stock. And there are many Jurchens, not just few, Jurchens were like Mongolian nomadic tribes, and we collectively called them Jurchens. Some ppl actually mistaken Mohe tribes are Jurchens, it's actually different stock all together but in terms of DNAs original Manchus are more closely related to Korean stocks than average Chinese or Mongolian. My ancestor came from some where near Tumen river, and natives there have their native names more sound like names you mentioned above. There is more Mohe like names like Go-gul, Sandarra, Jumong, Yuri, Hanul, Nalu, Nobak etc.. actually my grandma's name is Kim Nobak, this sort of names are hard to come by now days. Btw, Nurhaci in Korean is Naluhachi, and this isn't new to Korean, we had this name before, does Tangun sound anything like today's Korean name or title? Don't try to smudge Koreans from rest of NE asian family without much knowledge about Korea. Oh another thing, Korean govt is encouraging Koreans to takeup more native names than Hanja names. We will be hearing more Korean native names soon, already we have girls name such as Guseol, Hanuel, Sara, and Seri. This post has been edited by Bulyowoo: May 7 2008, 05:54 PM |
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May 8 2008, 09:03 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,574 Joined: 17-November 07 From: Europe |
Sar -Moon (in Mongolian ) Sara is also the name of a girl. Moongirl lol
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