Is education more important than experience?, ?? |
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Is education more important than experience?, ?? |
May 28 2008, 07:57 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 11,327 Joined: 13-August 07 |
both are equally important...
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May 28 2008, 08:03 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,270 Joined: 28-August 05 From: TEAM RAMROD |
Education is essential before you start your career, but once you start, it is all about the experience.
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May 29 2008, 01:01 AM
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AF Legend Group: Members Posts: 29,599 Joined: 31-July 05 |
They're equally as important.
Sure you can get your foot in the door without a degree but there will come a point when the chance for promotion constantly passes you by going to those with degrees. |
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May 29 2008, 01:10 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,049 Joined: 8-May 08 From: Clinical Psych' (616.89) |
QUOTE(Takashi @ May 29 2008, 07:01 AM) [snapback]3724349[/snapback] They're equally as important. Sure you can get your foot in the door without a degree but there will come a point when the chance for promotion constantly passes you by going to those with degrees. I tend to see it in the opposite way. A degree gets you in the door until they get to know what you're really like. That's what gets in the way of promotions, but these might be different trends in different "business industries" couldn't they of? |
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May 29 2008, 02:48 AM
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AF Legend Group: Members Posts: 29,599 Joined: 31-July 05 |
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ May 29 2008, 07:10 AM) [snapback]3724358[/snapback] I tend to see it in the opposite way. A degree gets you in the door until they get to know what you're really like. That's what gets in the way of promotions, but these might be different trends in different "business industries" couldn't they of? Meh, I've met a few people that have felt forced to go to uni at the age of around 30+ because all the young kids with degrees are being promoted despite knowing far less about the job than them.
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May 29 2008, 03:02 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,049 Joined: 8-May 08 From: Clinical Psych' (616.89) |
QUOTE(Takashi @ May 29 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]3724494[/snapback] Meh, I've met a few people that have felt forced to go to uni at the age of around 30+ because all the young kids with degrees are being promoted despite knowing far less about the job than them. That's about what it gets like. I had a go at 30, partly for that kind of reason, but more to see what I could learn at a place like a uni. I finished two years early, but they didn't like that so we parted company ten years ago. It was a very different thing when I finished high school to what it has become today. What I notice the most though, is that in order to make room for enough idiots to graduate to keep the current party in government, they've had to dumb the whole process from high school upwards down so much that science graduates can't even spell finite anymore, and these jokers are the ones that are running the health care system. So it's more about what sort of turmoil the World is going to be in if I ever live long enough to enter an aged-care facility that worries me. One of the three decent nurses out of around twenty in the hospital last February was a bloke called Dave. Like you said, he went back to school in his early 30s and had been working as a nurse for an hospital for two years since his graduation. He was 41 in February. We basically got into quite a discussion over the difference between the treatment of cadavers in the science lab (aka subject) and living human beings (aka patient). Patients isn't much of a virtue anymore, and that's why experience and TRUE education counts over paperwork printed on felled trees. (Just that it doesn't make you much money much more... |
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May 29 2008, 03:04 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,008 Joined: 16-March 08 From: back in columbus,:( |
if education is the key,than why dem mek it so expensive for we?
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May 29 2008, 06:04 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 15-September 07 From: NYC |
In IT, experience is more important.
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May 29 2008, 08:28 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,876 Joined: 11-May 08 From: in the wind |
it depends,
but education is a type of experience anyway. You remember what you 've read or been taught or done before |
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May 31 2008, 02:10 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 29-May 08 |
Nope, you need experience to construct meanings to what you learn in school.
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May 31 2008, 02:14 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,049 Joined: 8-May 08 From: Clinical Psych' (616.89) |
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ May 30 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]3725699[/snapback] it depends, but education is a type of experience anyway. You remember what you 've read or been taught or done before Yup, just as experience is a type of education. HAAAAAAAA! |
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May 31 2008, 11:35 PM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 9,253 Joined: 20-April 04 From: xxxxxxx |
Experience is also a type of education.
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Jun 7 2008, 07:13 PM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 303 Joined: 14-September 07 From: east coast |
there is no magic ratio for every case, but for average students (3.0-ish), experience is what sets you apart from your classmates. If your pulling near straight As, exp won't matter as much because you have demonstrated that you take in much of what is taught.
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Jun 15 2008, 06:55 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 11-July 06 |
No, some people gained the experience with no education.
Like some have said, you need both in the end. Experience is just as important as knowledge. It helps to have a better understanding though. |
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Jul 8 2008, 10:38 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 6,351 Joined: 15-September 07 From: tsaus ntuj |
QUOTE(Onlygodknows @ Jul 8 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]3798864[/snapback] Nope you can be an all As student and still be a complete dumbass get thrown out into the real world and you have no idea what to do The question is: do you know what to do? Where will you go? How will you make a living? You'll see how the real world works soon enough. |
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Jul 8 2008, 11:02 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 8,872 Joined: 10-December 07 From: film world |
1. education
2. experience not the other way around ya'll. i work in human resources. |
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Jul 8 2008, 11:14 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 6,351 Joined: 15-September 07 From: tsaus ntuj |
QUOTE(ttocs @ May 29 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]3725388[/snapback] In IT, experience is more important. That's true. I already have my CCNA and going for a CCNP. My teacher once told me, "People don't want to hear what you can do. They want to see it". So I figure once I have both certificates and enough experience I'll try looking for a job. |
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Jul 8 2008, 12:18 PM
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AF Legend Group: Members Posts: 29,765 Joined: 18-September 04 |
obviously depends on career
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Nov 4 2010, 07:34 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 28-September 06 From: Bermuda |
I think a combo of both is what is needed, and I would say that experience more than education
is needed to get the job done, but because education is valued more, it'll help you get jobs faster than a person who just has experience. I've seen time and time again the scenario where a person is deeply experienced in their field but can only go so far cuz they have no degree, and the socially awkward person that acts like they have no idea what to do outside of the classroom, has a better job position than the latter cuz they have a degree. And a lot of times the experienced one ends up training the inexperienced degree holder on how to do the job. So, Experience is def important but more than likely, it won't take you far in this world if you don't have education to back it up. Interning is a good way to gain experience (I did it). |
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Nov 4 2010, 07:46 PM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 3-December 07 From: La Mirada,CA |
I do think it is both education and experience just like many have said but what I do believe is that sometimes depending on the boss he or she might just like your personality and not give it so much thought if you are lacking in either education or experience.
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