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As a sign of good will, should China help Vietnam deal, with the financial crisis if it does happen?
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post Jun 30 2008, 09:54 AM
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As a sign of good will, should China help Vietnam deal
with the financial crisis if it does happen?

Please share your constructive suggestions on this matter.
Please retrain yourself from posting profanity and lame comments. Thank you.
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post Jun 30 2008, 05:45 PM
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Hi, Mr Socal:

with all due respect, ur post is 3 weeks overdue. the debate is over. China already stepped in and helped the Vietnam by giving her cash loans and special trading deal. I raised the issue at Vietnamese chat room 3 weeks ago. IMF didn't intervene. Remember i call ur reference 'rosy'. no hard feeling.

Since then, stock market all over the world plunged. High commodities prices are not going to go away pretty soon. I am constantly watching the vietnamese economy because it is the barometer of east asian economy. like before, i still worries about its cascading effects on her neighbors. in particular, vietnamese current account deficits, inflation, capital flight are everyone's top concerns (except in Viet-chat room).

beijing didn't help vietnam out of good will. it is in line with beijing's strategic interests. China doesn't want to appreciate Yuan too fast, but the pressure is building up by the inflow of hot cash - mainly dollar- from aboard. But if Viet Dong devalues too quickly, it will exacerbate beijing's position. That's to say that shorting Dong by buying dollar, and at same time using dollar to buy Yuan. the net effect is that china ends up with lots of dollars reserves and excess Yuan circulation, meaning inflation. Beijing lends the Dollar to Viet allowing Viet gov to defend Dong's value. so the cycle mentioned above will not hurt china. Very Smart move.

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QUOTE(MrShao @ Jun 30 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]3785348[/snapback]
Hi, Mr Socal:

with all due respect, ur post is 3 weeks overdue. the debate is over. China already stepped in and helped the Vietnam by giving her cash loans and special trading deal. I raised the issue at Vietnamese chat room 3 weeks ago. IMF didn't intervene. Remember i call ur reference 'rosy'. no hard feeling.

Since then, stock market all over the world plunged. High commodities prices are not going to go away pretty soon. I am constantly watching the vietnamese economy because it is the barometer of east asian economy. like before, i still worries about its cascading effects on her neighbors. in particular, vietnamese current account deficits, inflation, capital flight are everyone's top concerns (except in Viet-chat room).

beijing didn't help vietnam out of good will. it is in line with beijing's strategic interests. China doesn't want to appreciate Yuan too fast, but the pressure is building up by the inflow of hot cash - mainly dollar- from aboard. But if Viet Dong devalues too quickly, it will exacerbate beijing's position. That's to say that shorting Dong by buying dollar, and at same time using dollar to buy Yuan. the net effect is that china ends up with lots of dollars reserves and excess Yuan circulation, meaning inflation. Beijing lends the Dollar to Viet allowing Viet gov to defend Dong's value. so the cycle mentioned above will not hurt china. Very Smart move.



Mr. Shao,

Do you know how much is the cash loan that China loans to Vietnam? confused.gif



Since Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan are Confucius countries, I think it is best to offer mutual assistance to each other. This is a win-win situation for all sides.




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QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 1 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]3787114[/snapback]
Mr. Shao,

Do you know how much is the cash loan that China loans to Vietnam? confused.gif
Since Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan are Confucius countries, I think it is best to offer mutual assistance to each other. This is a win-win situation for all sides.

my dear friend:
here is what chinese state newspaper said on 6/2/08. I quote
They signed cooperation agreements on plant and animal quarantine, and an agreement on China to provide favorable loan and export buyer's credit to Vietnam.

full article:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2008...ent_6728216.htm

today's newpaper in chinese (sorry) says according to Chinese Science Academy, government think tank, Vietnam needs 30-50 billion dollar of foreign aids to stabilize the Dong. it will be achieved by Chinese Korean Japanese joint effort.

http://news.hexun.com/2008-06-11/106586175.html

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- SoCal   As a sign of good will, should China help Vietnam deal   Jun 30 2008, 09:54 AM
- - MrShao   Hi, Mr Socal: with all due respect, ur post is 3 ...   Jun 30 2008, 05:45 PM
|- - SoCal   QUOTE(MrShao @ Jun 30 2008, 03:45 PM) 378...   Jul 1 2008, 09:00 PM
|- - EazyMoney   QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 1 2008, 09:00 PM) 37871...   Jul 2 2008, 10:31 AM
||- - SoCal   QUOTE(EazyMoney @ Jul 2 2008, 08:31 AM) 3...   Jul 2 2008, 12:20 PM
|- - MrShao   QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 1 2008, 10:00 PM) 37871...   Jul 2 2008, 12:32 PM
|- - SoCal   QUOTE(MrShao @ Jul 2 2008, 10:32 AM) 3788...   Jul 4 2008, 10:01 AM
- - House   I think that it would be extremely foolish to help...   Jul 1 2008, 06:26 PM
|- - SoCal   QUOTE(House @ Jul 1 2008, 04:26 PM) 37869...   Jul 1 2008, 09:16 PM
|- - Hafiz   QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 1 2008, 09:16 PM) 37871...   Jul 3 2008, 07:30 AM
- - crabdonut   ^ Vietnam is a communist country, so I doubt US is...   Jul 1 2008, 08:56 PM
- - Semiautomatic   Vietnamese fear of China is a perfect example of w...   Jul 1 2008, 11:00 PM
- - Mid-Night_Sun   China is smart, they wouldnt help Vietnam unless t...   Jul 2 2008, 08:46 AM
|- - martin_nuke   QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Jul 2 2008, 08...   Jul 3 2008, 06:51 PM
- - Mid-Night_Sun   you are an odd fellow. countries arent like wine. ...   Jul 2 2008, 12:28 PM
|- - SoCal   QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Jul 2 2008, 10...   Jul 4 2008, 10:08 AM
|- - Mid-Night_Sun   QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 4 2008, 12:08 PM) 37913...   Jul 4 2008, 10:18 AM
|- - SoCal   QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Jul 4 2008, 08...   Jul 4 2008, 11:41 AM
||- - Mid-Night_Sun   QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 4 2008, 01:41 PM) 37914...   Jul 4 2008, 11:44 AM
||- - SoCal   QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Jul 4 2008, 09...   Jul 4 2008, 11:48 AM
|- - orangesoda   Strange how Vietnam is becoming very friendly and ...   Jul 4 2008, 12:08 PM
- - Henry123   Dispite all the crappy things people have done to ...   Jul 2 2008, 01:26 PM
|- - lilzz   Depend which part of Vietnam you talking about. Ha...   Jul 2 2008, 02:37 PM
|- - SoCal   QUOTE(lilzz @ Jul 2 2008, 12:37 PM) 37884...   Jul 3 2008, 05:57 PM
- - JazzyQueen   China will help vietnam for economic inflation? wh...   Jul 24 2008, 09:33 PM
|- - kiengiang   QUOTE(JazzyQueen @ Jul 24 2008, 09:33 PM)...   Jul 24 2008, 10:36 PM
- - JazzyQueen   Read history first, Kiengiang. NanYue is later peo...   Jul 25 2008, 04:25 AM
|- - kiengiang   QUOTE(JazzyQueen @ Jul 25 2008, 04:25 AM)...   Jul 25 2008, 08:27 AM
- - JazzyQueen   You open your eyes go to any chinese university an...   Jul 25 2008, 07:53 PM
- - kiengiang   nói chuyện với mấy cái th...   Jul 25 2008, 08:28 PM


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