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The relativity of "ugly", How ugly is ugly?
FrenchVanillaNYC
post Jul 18 2008, 03:54 PM
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The episode of Twilight Zone comes to mind where the "beautiful" woman was ugly because everyone else around her was hideous.



What really determines what's ugly in a person? Why do we automatically become repulsed by certain features and soothed by others? How ugly is ugly?

It's so weird how someone can lean towards contempt for a person without the person speaking a word all because the person looks a certain way.

What about people who go through hell because they've always felt/have been told that they are ugly even though they are nice people? What about people who have life on a platter because they were always lead to believe they were beautiful who are jackasses? What if the ugly person with low-self esteem is beautiful by your standards, and the beautiful person with arrogance is ugly by your standards?

Would you give an "ugly" person enough time to know him/her to see the beauty in him/her (if it's there to see)?
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post Jul 18 2008, 07:59 PM
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Really in the end, it's the PERSONALITY that counts...
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post Jul 18 2008, 08:26 PM
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life is not worth living if you are ugly. Being beautiful is awesome because you can easily take advantage of the shallowness of men. rockon.gif

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post Jul 18 2008, 09:36 PM
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Someone said that beauty is skin deep,
But ugly goes to the bones. LOL
Makes me shudder embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:38 PM
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if you are ugly outside, that is acceptable.

but inside? it is hard to swallow.
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:40 PM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And everyone who says they wouldn't care if their partner looked like a pig is lying. If you liked them, you must have felt some sort of physical attraction because that's what motivates you to speak with them in the first place.. It's how people roll.
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(chymali @ Jul 18 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]3818217[/snapback]
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And everyone who says they wouldn't care if their partner looked like a pig is lying. If you liked them, you must have felt some sort of physical attraction because that's what motivates you to speak with them in the first place.. It's how people roll.

well if you meet a person in the dark, can you be attract to them? rotflmao.gif
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:47 PM
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Yes. Their voice might be sexy or something.

But when the lights come on, that's a completely different matter.
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(InitialDJay @ Jul 18 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]3818213[/snapback]
if you are ugly outside, that is acceptable.

but inside? it is hard to swallow.


what if both ? double trouble. laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(chymali @ Jul 18 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]3818240[/snapback]
Yes. Their voice might be sexy or something.

But when the lights come on, that's a completely different matter.

lol okay what if you are blind forever, does light matter now? laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:50 PM
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You can feel their face, and picture it.

I mean, you'd be able to feel everything from covered acne to hairy cheek. Or whatever. That's even worse!
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:50 PM
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pity or love ?
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(chymali @ Jul 18 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]3818248[/snapback]
You can feel their face, and picture it.

I mean, you'd be able to feel everything from covered acne to hairy cheek. Or whatever. That's even worse!

lol well then that is the point. there are people out there that can feel a person beauty from the interior instead of exterior beauty. =p

that is the ultimate achivement of true love, the ability to attract to a person without even knowing how she/he looks like. lol
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post Jul 18 2008, 10:01 PM
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^ Than we'd all have to lose the fingers and our eyes. I just don't believe in loving someone who I think is ugly. You might think him sexy/beautiful/hot/handsome whatever, but I wouldn't, and I wouldn't love him.
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post Jul 18 2008, 11:09 PM
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People have acted out with aggresion towards me for being ugly. I don't understand how my being ugly can create so much hate in people. I am very reserved and I try my hardest to be as polite and kind to everyone I encounter. I'd like to believe that it's the "inside that counts" but I feel that nobody will ever get past my ugliness no matter how kind I am.
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post Jul 18 2008, 11:53 PM
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^ your response made me disgusted with how society has become.
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post Jul 18 2008, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(kitkat @ Jul 18 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]3818405[/snapback]
People have acted out with aggresion towards me for being ugly. I don't understand how my being ugly can create so much hate in people. I am very reserved and I try my hardest to be as polite and kind to everyone I encounter. I'd like to believe that it's the "inside that counts" but I feel that nobody will ever get past my ugliness no matter how kind I am.


That's terrible. I'm not mean to people who are ugly, because there's at least one person in the world who finds me ugly, and I wouldn't want s/he to be that way with me.

And I don't truly believe you're ugly. There's always someone out there who will find you beautiful. Like I said ealier, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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post Jul 19 2008, 12:01 AM
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1. What really determines what's ugly in a person? Why do we automatically become repulsed by certain features and soothed by others? How ugly is ugly?


mostly society, most of it is based on features that look healthy because everything is about survival and reproduction but it's not part of the awareness of the human psyche. a person that looks unhealthy will not be able to give birth to a child or be able to raise one.

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Would you give an "ugly" person enough time to know him/her to see the beauty in him/her (if it's there to see)?

there's a difference between "inner" beauty and outer.
if you're interesting that's great, but what's that have to do with reproduction?
get it? they are separated completely. imo MOST guys are affixed on outer beauty and merely 'tolerate' the woman's personality.

unfortunately for raising children the parents should be emotionally interested in each other, and that's partly why most marriages fail

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post Jul 19 2008, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(Lilaaa @ Jul 18 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]3818498[/snapback]
^ your response made me disgusted with how society has become.


You seem like a very kind person. Sometimes I feel utterly disguisted by society. But when I hear kind words from people such as yourself it makes me feel better icon_smile.gif

QUOTE(chymali @ Jul 18 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]3818508[/snapback]
That's terrible. I'm not mean to people who are ugly, because there's at least one person in the world who finds me ugly, and I wouldn't want s/he to be that way with me.

And I don't truly believe you're ugly. There's always someone out there who will find you beautiful. Like I said ealier, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


That's a good way of looking at things icon_smile.gif ...

I am very lucky to have a very kind boyfriend who cares for me despite all my flaws laugh.gif ...I try not to think about it much but I hope he is attracted to me eek.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 19 2008, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(kitkat @ Jul 18 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]3818405[/snapback]
People have acted out with aggresion towards me for being ugly. I don't understand how my being ugly can create so much hate in people. I am very reserved and I try my hardest to be as polite and kind to everyone I encounter. I'd like to believe that it's the "inside that counts" but I feel that nobody will ever get past my ugliness no matter how kind I am.



it's the good thing that you do,that will be remembered for.
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