Fa Ngum, Creator of The Kingdom Of Lan Xang/Laos. Options

[ChuonCheat_Khmer]

thanks for the info PtrckHri. i've learned quite a few things from reading your posts. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

[Dara]

^not to mention that tones vary in different regions..just like how it is with Chinese.

[menghuy]

[quote=Nam Quoc Son Ha,Sep 24 2004, 11:12 PM]
Yes he was the one who invaded Vietnamese land and I think it was the only point in history where they had the upper hand against Kinh Viets.

Anyway I've always wondered how Laotians look so much like Southern Chinese. They even look like Viets for God's sake.

BTW, is it true that there are more Laotians in Thailand than Laos itself? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif)

[/quote thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you. call your grand parents and ask them.lol

[lilRuffneckPrinc...]

[quote=menghuy,Jan 21 2005, 09:05 PM]
[quote=Nam Quoc Son Ha,Sep 24 2004, 11:12 PM]
Yes he was the one who invaded Vietnamese land and I think it was the only point in history where they had the upper hand against Kinh Viets.

Anyway I've always wondered how Laotians look so much like Southern Chinese. They even look like Viets for God's sake.

BTW, is it true that there are more Laotians in Thailand than Laos itself? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif)

[/quote thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you. call your grand parents and ask them.lol

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my granmami died in laos never knew her...

[Moha_Nokor]

thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you.  call your grand parents and ask them.lol

i think you're stupid and i think you need to stfu also (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Moha_Nokor: Jan 21 2005, 11:48 PM

[menghuy]

thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you.  call your grand parents and ask them.lol

i think you're stupid and i think you need to stfu also (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

HEY MOHA NOKOR,WHY DONT YOU CHECK OUT SOME LAOS HISTORY IN THE LIBRARY WHERE YOU LIVE. MAYBE YOU LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT HOW LAOS COUNTRY WERE FORMED AND HOW THEY GET THEIR LANGUAGE HUH. IF LAOS AND THAI DONT MIX WITH KHMER,ALL OF LAOS AND THAI WOULD LOOK LIKE THE CHINESE PEOPLE AND THEY 'RE BE SPEAKING CHINESE. NOT HALF KHMER AND WHO KNOW. IN THE PRESENT DAY THAI AND LAOS ARE TRYING SO HARD TO RECREAT THEIR WRITING SO IT DONT LOOK LIKE KHMER WRITING AND WHY DONT THEY TRY TO RECREAT THE NUMBERS TOO SO DONT STILL LOOK LIKE KHMER HUH. NOT JUST THAT THYE EVEN TRY TO MISSPELL SOME WORD SO IT CAN SOUND AS THAI OR LAOS. CANT BELIEVE IT AM CHATING WITH KIDS WHO WERE BORN LAST WEEK AND MAY BE PREMATURLY BIRTH TOO.

[PtrckHri]

Menghuy:

No doubt, there have been great influences of Khmer culture on those in Thailand and Laos, and intermarriages between the three peoples. These are taught in primary schools in Laos. I don't know about this issue in the more modern Thailand.

However, when we talk about influences, you have to assume that the tai people themselves, who migrated from southern China to current land formerly occupied by the Mon-Khmer, brought with them their own dialects and cultures that were distinctive from those of the Chinese, and later mixed these cultures with those of the mon-khmer in order to further improve them and make them more suitable to their own use. I understand this has become a very tricky issue, particularly the issues such as authenticity or misappropriation, i.e. taking something from someone without giving proper credit to the original owner later.

However, I think you get too emotional to create a condition where you can effectively educate other people about this important issue, because they may not take your account seriously. Also, you have to understand the fact that most members of this forum either were born abroad or have left their own country for many years. The younger generations are more interested in computers, gadgets, and science fiction, or get totally lost as gang members in this new society. Most parents try to survive themselves. Many kids may want to know about the origin and culture of their parents and grand-grand parents. However, if you put yourselves as an insulting person instead of a good educator or debator, they may not want to hear anything from you, or even to be associated with you. So, you have to be patient.

[lilRuffneckPrinc...]

I also never knew my granpapy he also died. BUT interesting, so I wouldn't be wrong if I said I was half Laos, half Khmer, half chinese and half thai but of course thai and Laos same tribe, right? This be a interesting topic come Sunday brunch with my parents GOOD LOOKS on this tidbit, and no I ain't mad at you for reminding the ones that forgot where we origin from... I expect to hear far worst but so far I knew in my heart my image was not typical (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif) but exotic... YA

[Zelnom]

Menghuy:

No doubt, there have been great influences of Khmer culture on those in Thailand and Laos, and intermarriages between the three peoples. These are taught in primary schools in Laos.  I don't know about this issue in the more modern Thailand.

However, when we talk about influences, you have to assume that the tai people themselves, who migrated from southern China to current land formerly occupied by the Mon-Khmer, brought with them their own dialects and cultures that were distinctive from those of the Chinese, and later mixed these cultures with those of the mon-khmer in order to further improve them and make them more suitable to their own use. I understand this has become a very tricky issue, particularly the issues such as authenticity or misappropriation, i.e. taking something from someone without giving proper credit to the original owner later.

However, I think you get too emotional to create a condition where you can effectively educate other people about this important issue, because they may not take your account seriously. Also, you have to understand the fact that most members of this forum either were born abroad or have left their own country for many years. The younger generations are more interested in computers, gadgets, and science fiction, or get totally lost as gang members in this new society. Most parents try to survive themselves. Many kids may want to know about the origin and culture of their parents and grand-grand parents.  However, if you put yourselves as an insulting person instead of a good educator or debator, they may not  want to hear anything from you, or even to be associated with you. So, you have to be patient.

Well said!

[baolao18]

Yes I think its true most of Southern Lao is mixed while Northerners look more pure. Thats how my parents told me. But it doesnt matter because we are Lao anyway!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Lao history is very interesting. I loved to learn about it but its hard to find books.

[lilRuffneckPrinc...]

Yes I think its true most of Southern Lao is mixed while Northerners look more pure. Thats how my parents told me. But it doesnt matter because we are Lao anyway!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Lao history is very interesting. I loved to learn about it but its hard to find books.

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I loved to learn about it but its hard to find books.

[Moha_Nokor]

thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you.  call your grand parents and ask them.lol

i think you're stupid and i think you need to stfu also (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

HEY MOHA NOKOR,WHY DONT YOU CHECK OUT SOME LAOS HISTORY IN THE LIBRARY WHERE YOU LIVE. MAYBE YOU LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT HOW LAOS COUNTRY WERE FORMED AND HOW THEY GET THEIR LANGUAGE HUH. IF LAOS AND THAI DONT MIX WITH KHMER,ALL OF LAOS AND THAI WOULD LOOK LIKE THE CHINESE PEOPLE AND THEY 'RE BE SPEAKING CHINESE. NOT HALF KHMER AND WHO KNOW. IN THE PRESENT DAY THAI AND LAOS ARE TRYING SO HARD TO RECREAT THEIR WRITING SO IT DONT LOOK LIKE KHMER WRITING AND WHY DONT THEY TRY TO RECREAT THE NUMBERS TOO SO DONT STILL LOOK LIKE KHMER HUH. NOT JUST THAT THYE EVEN TRY TO MISSPELL SOME WORD SO IT CAN SOUND AS THAI OR LAOS. CANT BELIEVE IT AM CHATING WITH KIDS WHO WERE BORN LAST WEEK AND MAY BE PREMATURLY BIRTH TOO.

i think you should get hang for saying stupid $hit like this. the same thing applies to khmer when we received indian influence. you're trying to shove this in their face. you are an arrogant racist stupid mofo who makes other khmers look bad. quit typing in caps idiot. you're stupid how you said thai and laos try to "misspell" words to make it sound thai or laos. well DUH! they do have their own language and they'll try to modify it. just like khmers modifying sanskrit and pali words you stupid $hit.

[lilRuffneckPrinc...]

o whoa too much remixes going on here, is there some dirty dirty going around we young ones don't know of??? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif) My granmami / grandpapy I never knew they died in LAOS and took all that 411 and goodness with them, I have yet to speak to my parents of this, I'm sure they would be enlighten that their princess care to talk bout lao history... so pls more 411 be cool before Sunday come around

Would I be wrong if I used U.S.A. as an example???

[Zelnom]

I loved to learn about it but its hard to find books.

I have a Lao history book (modern tradition), and I keep saying to myself I'll read it over the weekend when I have time. Only problem is though, I end up playing video games instead. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bawling.gif)

Hmm..any motivation to get me to open it?

This post has been edited by Zelnom: Jan 22 2005, 06:19 PM

[baolao18]

I loved to learn about it but its hard to find books.

I have a Lao history book (modern tradition), and I keep saying to myself I'll read it over the weekend when I have time. Only problem is though, I end up playing video games instead. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bawling.gif)

Hmm..any motivation to get me to open it?

You dont have to read just give it to me.ahhah (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[lilRuffneckPrinc...]

I loved to learn about it but its hard to find books.

I have a Lao history book (modern tradition), and I keep saying to myself I'll read it over the weekend when I have time. Only problem is though, I end up playing video games instead. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bawling.gif)

Hmm..any motivation to get me to open it?

You dont have to read just give it to me.ahhah (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

naw Zelnom you and I gots history I'm the betta princess for it (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Remember who reminded me to thank Indian Heritage (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)

[baolao18]

FA NGUM was a great man! Cheers for Fa Ngum!!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[InstantKarma]

thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you.  call your grand parents and ask them.lol

Ummm..... okay..... somebody just had to open their racist mouth.

... rolls eyes ...

[baolao18]

thai,laos and viet came from china on a small banana boat along the maykong river into kampuchea territory. that is how you got most of land today and call it your. some of you are so stupit dont even know that you have khmer blood in you.  call your grand parents and ask them.lol

Ummm..... okay..... somebody just had to open their racist mouth.

... rolls eyes ...

Fa Ngum was a great man!! He combined alot of peoples to form one Lao group. He was the one who made Lao tradition the way it is. We adopted alot of beautiful cultures from the khmers. Yea i guess we were copycats and our culture was probably ugly or something when we came from southern China. But it does make us unique. Having Indian culture while alot of Laotians still have Sino traits.

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