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wat are javanese? |
 Sep 17 2004, 05:46 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 13-September 04  |
i've been hearing about javanese people, and i also know the majority of people r javanese.
wat exactly is a javanese ? r they indians or africans? yeh i no i'm a confused guy trying to learn more bout asia |
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Sep 17 2004, 06:14 AM
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AF Elite  Group: Members Posts: 6,819 Joined: 13-May 04 |
hi danielg,
javanese r an ethnic group from central and eastern java, an island of indonesia. there are around 150 million javanese, making it the largest ethnic group in indonesia. javanese are of malayo-polynesian stock. in multicultural java, there are some indians and a few descendents of africans. hope this helps |
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Sep 17 2004, 08:20 AM
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AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 4-September 04 |
The Javanese population, i.e. the population of Java can be divided into 3 main groups: The Sundanese in West Java, The Javanese in Central and East Java and the Madurese on the Island of Madura bust most of them live on Java just south of Madura around Surabaya. What they call Java people (orang Jawa) in Indonesia are the people who originate from Central and East Java.
There are a few sub groups like the Badui people in West-Java and the Tenggarese in East Java. Other etnic groups that live in Java are the Chinese and Arabs, the latter especially in the cities along the north coast. The etnic people from Java can be found all over the Archipelago, since 100's of years there was a influx of people from Java into Lampung (South Sumatra) Under Dutch rule transmigration programs were started, to have cheap laborforces on the plantations in Sumatera. These transmigrationprograms reached their top under rhe rule of Suharto. People from Java were transmigrated all over Indonesia to bring Indonesia under control of Java (Javanisasi) The Indians of Mas Purnomo play a second role in USA movies the so called Westerns, in which they fight against cowboys and always lose. |
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Sep 17 2004, 05:54 PM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 6,819 Joined: 13-May 04 |
^ londoh, didn't u say u like javanese? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif)
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Sep 18 2004, 12:37 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 13-September 04 |
hmmmmm.... i guess dat helped abit.....
so i'm guessing java people looks like samoan and pacific islanders? most of the 1's i met in my life loos like samoans and dark asians, asians wit bit slanted eyes... |
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Sep 18 2004, 12:40 AM
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AF Supreme  Group: Members Posts: 10,593 Joined: 6-March 04 |
what is the origin of the word "JAVA"?
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Sep 18 2004, 05:22 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 4-September 04 |
QUOTE (purnomor @ Sep 17 2004, 06:54 PM) londoh, didn't u say u like javanese? I can go on very well with them, I won't tell my dislikes as you don't believe my opinions. Sorry for that Koh |
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Sep 18 2004, 05:35 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 13-September 04 |
i duno what is the origin of the word java.
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Sep 18 2004, 06:16 PM
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AF Addict  Group: Members Posts: 565 Joined: 29-July 04 |
Java is named after the word 'barley' in Sanskrit. To the ancient Indian, this island of Java is known as Yawadwipa, the land of barleys...interestingly enough. This is first mentioned in the epic Ramayana in which Sugriwa is looking to find the abducted Sita as far as Yawadwipa.
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Sep 18 2004, 06:48 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 10,593 Joined: 6-March 04 |
WOW! great and powerful info! so sri lanka and java island are in the epic of Ramayana? what other places are spoken about in the epic?! WOW that is cool!! WOW i wan tto say it again because its so cool.... WOW..
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Sep 18 2004, 09:32 PM
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AF Fiend  Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Jakarta |
Is the Jawadwipa the 'friend' of Suwarnadwipa (The island of Sumatra, if 'im right)??
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Sep 18 2004, 09:36 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 12,020 Joined: 2-June 04 From: 中國 |
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Sep 18 2004, 07:48 PM) WOW! great and powerful info! so sri lanka and java island are in the epic of Ramayana? what other places are spoken about in the epic?! WOW that is cool!! WOW i wan tto say it again because its so cool.... WOW.. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) You didnt know that? Sri Lanka is considered an evil place though & is burned down in the story. |
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Sep 18 2004, 09:44 PM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Jakarta |
In the ancient time, Indonesia and India had a very tight relationship, didn't they??
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Oct 4 2004, 03:52 AM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 12,116 Joined: 29-September 04 From: Tropical island |
QUOTE (nama_user @ Sep 18 2004, 10:44 PM) In the ancient time, Indonesia and India had a very tight relationship, didn't they??  Indonesia also had a very tight relationship with Thai, didn't they? It was when the Majapahit Kingdom (with Patih Gajahmada) ruled throughout South Asia. And I've read that once upon a time the king of thai is a javanese. Correct me if I made a mistake, pls. I also notice the traditional clothes of village thai female almost similiar to javanese clothes, like "kemben" and so is the type of the alphabeth (like "Hanacaraka, datasawala...etc"). |
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Oct 4 2004, 05:44 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Jakarta |
Indonesia's culture is very similar to Hindu culture
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Oct 5 2004, 02:12 AM
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AF Pro  Group: Banned Posts: 2,408 Joined: 20-July 04 |
Not really there are 2 kingdom in the past which affected the way of life of our current life both are majapahit hindu influence kingdom and the second one is srivijaya the budhist dominated kingdom.
Borobudur is not hindu temple but budhist. |
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Oct 5 2004, 06:19 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Jakarta |
But both of them originated in India right??
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Oct 6 2004, 03:40 AM
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AF Pro Group: Banned Posts: 2,408 Joined: 20-July 04 |
Hindu culture which make segregation caste between society totally is not suitable for Indonesian culture anymore.
India/hindu culture they have people called dalith (untouchable) i never imagine in any society someone can not touch other bcoz they were born different caste. That's why malay in sumatra who had root in budhist which is no caste system as strong as hindu more flexible, speak up and galant compare to javanese who had root in hindu caste mentality. eventhough these javanese folk most of them already convert to muslim. yet the hindu caste mentality still remain somehow in daily life. |
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Oct 6 2004, 05:04 AM
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AF Fiend Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Jakarta |
Caste is the social class system in Hinduism right?? I heard an organization in India when the moderniztion began wanted the renewal of Hinduism including no more Caste system
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Jul 1 2005, 01:16 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 1-July 05 From: Jakarta, Indonesia |
I think describing wouldn't really help this guy. How bout some pictures fellas... He wants to know how Javanesemen look like.
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