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post Sep 8 2005, 03:27 PM
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Since I wanted to share my method of learning Chinese, I made this thread. beerchug.gif

This is the revised version.

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PRONUNCIATION KEY

I linked the sound clips from websites I found.

I made my own romanizations and pronunciation keys for Mandarin and Cantonese, so here they go:


Mandarin:

TONES:

I'm going to put numbers after a word to indicate tone.

1st tone =High, even tone
2nd tone =Rising tone
3rd tone =Low dipping tone
4th tone = Short falling tone

Consonants:

B = regular "B" as in "boy" ("Ba3" - to grab/a handful)
P = regular "P" as in "pond" ("Pee2" - skin)
M = regular "M" as in "man" ("Ma4" - to curse at)
F = regular "F" as in "fun" (Foo2 - good luck)
D = regular "D" as in "dog" (Da4 - large)
T = regular "T" as in "top" (Tuh4 - special)
N = regular "N" in Mandarin as in "no" (Nee3 - you)
L = regular "L" as in "low" (Ly4 - green)
G = regular "G" as in "go" (Guh4 - measure word for single things)
K = "K" as in "Kid" (Koo4 - storage place)
H = somewhat gutteral, similar to "kh" in Arabic or the German "r" (Ha1 - laugh/breathe out)
Rh = no English equivalent; combine "Y", "J" and "R" (Rhuh4 - hot) "R" in pinyin
Shy = like English "she" (Shy2 - last name) "X" in pinyin
Jy = like English "gee" (Jy4 - office)
Chy = as in "cheese" (Chyee2 - flag) "Q" in pinyin
Ts' = like the "TS" in "its", sometimes sounds like "Ch'"(Tsih4 -times) "C" in pinyin
Ch' = like the "Ch" in "chirp"; also sounds like "TS" at times (Chuh1 - car)
Sh' = like the "Sh" in "show"; also pronounced like "S" at times (Shih4 - to be)
Zh' = like the "J" in "jerk; also sounds like "Z" at times (Zhoo4 - to stay at)
S = regular "S" as in "sand" (Suh4-color)
Z = like the "DS" in "nods", sometimes sounds like "Zh" (Zoo3 - group)

Er = sounds like the word "are" by itself, is an "r" after another word.

Then there's "Y" and "W", but I don't think they need to be explained.

Vowel Endings:
-a= "ah" as in "ma"
-(y)ee = as in "see" i in pinyin
-eh = as in "yeah" e in pinyin
-oa = as in "boa" o in pinyin
-uh = as in "took" e in pinyin
-oh = as in "go" ou in pinyin
-(w)oo = as in "tune" u in pinyin
-(y) = like French "tu"
-ai= as in "eye"
-au = as in "now" ao in pinyin
-ay = as in "lay" ei in pinyin

Combination Endings

-an
-uhn -en in pinyin
-een -in in pinyin
-ueen -n in pinyin

-ahng
-ong
-uhng -eng in pinyin
-ing

Some people wanted pinyin instead of this romanization, so I will give the corresponding pinyin to each word in my method of romanization if my way is differen.

My romanization = left
Pinyin = right

Ahng = Ang
Au= Ao
Bahng = Bang
Bau = Bao
Bay = Bei
Bee = Bi
Been = Bin
Beeng = Bing
Boa = Bo
Boo = Bu
Bow = Bao
Byeh = Bie
Byau = Biao
Byen = Bian
Chahng = Chang
Chih = Chi
Chau = Chao
Choh = Chou
Choo = Chu
Chuh = Che
Chuhn = Chen
Chuhng = Cheng
Chway = Chui
Chwoa = Chuo
Chwun = Chun
Chyah = Qia
Chyahng = Qiang
Chyeen = Qin
Chyeeng = Qing
Chyau = Qiao
Chyeh = Qie
Chyoh = Qiu
Chyong = Qiong
Chy = Qu
Chyan = Quan
Chyeh = Que
Chyween = Qun
Dau = Dao
Day = Dei
Dee = Di
Deeng = Ding
Doh = Dou
Doo = Du
Duh = De
Duhng = Deng
Dwan = Duan
Dway = Dui
Dwoa = Duo
Dwun = Dun
Dyau = Diao
Dyeh = Die
Dyen = Dian
Dyoh = Diu
Fahng = Fang
Foa = Fo
Foh = Fou
Foo = Fu
Gahng = Gang
Gay = Gei
Guh = Ge
Guhn = Gen
Guhng = Geng
Goh = Gou
Goo = Gu
Gwah = Gua
Gwahng = Guang
Gway = Gui
Gwoa = Guo
Gwun = Gun
Hahng = Hang
Hay = Hei
Hau = Hao
Hoh = Hou
Huh = He
Huhn = Hen
Hwah = Hua
Hwahng = Huang
Hway = Hui
Hwoa = Huo
Hwun = Hun
Hoo = Hu
Jah = Zha
Jang = Zhang
Jau = Zhao
Jay = Zhei
Jih = Zhi
Joh = Zhou
Joo = Zhu
Juh = Zhe
Juhn = Zhen
Jwah = Zhua
Jween = Jun
Jwan = Zhuan
Jwoa = Zhuo
Jwun = Zhun
Jyah = Jia
Jyahng = Jiang
Jyau = Jiao
Jyeh = Jie
Jyee = Ji
Jyeen = Jin
Jyeeng = Jing
Jyen = Jian
Jyoh = Jiu
Jy = Ju
Jyan = Juan
Jyeh = Jue
Kahng = Kang
Koh = Kou
Koo = Ku
Kuh = Ke
Kuhn = Ken
Kuhng = Keng
Kwahng = Kuang
Kway = Kui
Kwoa = Kuo
Lahng = Lang
Lay = Lei
Lee = Li
Leen = Lin
Leeng = Ling
Loh = Lou
Luh = Le
Luhng = Leng
Lwan = Luan
Lwun = Lun
Lyahng = Liang
Lyau = Liao
Lyeh = Lie
Lyoh = Liu
Ly = L
Lyeh = Le
Mahng = Mang
Mee = Mi
Meeng = Ming
Moh = Mou
Muh = Me
Myeh = Mie
Nahng = Nang
Nau = Nao
Nee = Ni
Neen = Nin
Neeng = Ning
Nuh = Ne
Nuhng = Neng
Noo = Nu
Nyeh = Nie
Nyoh = Niu
Ny = N
Oa = O
Oh = Ou
Pahng = Pang
Pay = Pei
Pee = Pi
Peen = Pin
Peeng = Ping
Poa = Po
Poh = Pou
Poo = Pu
Puhn = Pen
Pyau = Piao
Pyeh = Pie
Pyen = Pian
Rhan = Ran
Rhahng = Rang
Rhau = Rao
Rhoh = Rou
Rhoo = Ru
Rhuh = Re
Sahng = Sang
Shahng = Shang
Shay = Shei
Shih = Shi
Shoh = Shou
Shuh = She
Shuhn = Shen
Shuhng = Sheng
Shwahng = Shuang
Shway = Shui
Shwun = Shun
Shyah = Xia
Shyahng = Xiang
Shyau = Xiao
Shyee = Xi
Shyeh = Xie
Shyen = Xian
Shy = Xu
Shyan = Xuan
Shyeh = Xue
Shyween = Xun
Sih = Si
Soh = Sou
Soo = Su
Suh = Se
Sway = Sui
Tahng = Tang
Tee = Ti
Teeng = Ting
Toh = Tou
Tuh = Te
Tsah = Ca
Tsan = Can
Tsahng = Cang
Tsong = Cong
Tsoo = Cu
Tsau = Cao
Tsih = Ci
Tsuhng = Ceng
Tsway = Cui
Tswoa = Cuo
Tswun = Cun
Tway = Tui
Twoa = Tuo
Twun = Tun
Tyeh = Tie
Tyen = Tian
Uh = E
Uhn = En
Wahng = Wang
Way = Wei
Wuhn = Wen
Wuhng = Weng
Woa = Wo
Woo = Wu
Yahng = Yan
Yau = Yao
Yeh = Ye
Yee = Yi
Yeen = Yin
Yeeng = Ying
Yoh = You
Yeh = Yue
Yween = Yun
Zahng = Zang
Zau = Zao
Zih = Zi
Zoh = Zou
Zoo = Zu
Zuh = Ze
Zuhng = Zeng
Zway = Zui
Zwoa = Zuo
Zwun = Zun

Cantonese:

Tones:
(I'm putting 6 main tones)

1 = high even tone
2 = high rising tone
3 = middle even tone; hardly no tone at all
4 = middle falling tone (like the tone most English sentences end with)
5 = low rising tone (like the tone most English sentences end with)
6 = low falling tone

Consonants:

B,P,M,F,D,T, L, G, K,S = same as Mandarin
N = pronounced like "L" (Naam4 - male); occasionally actually pronounced like an "N"
H = like English "h" (Ha5 - down)
Ch = like "Ch" in "chick", sometimes is "ts" (Cheen4 - front)
Zh = like "J' in "jam", sometimes is "Z"(Jeh2 - older sister)
Ng = like the "ng" in "doing";sometimes sounds like "mm"

Vowels:

*"Ng" is often put in front of the beginning of vowels but isn't always necessary

-ah
-ai = like "eye"
-aai = long "ai"
-ay = like "ay" in "hay"
-au = like the "ow" in "now"
-aau = long "-au"
-eh = sounds like the "eah" in "yeah" Cheh1- car)
-ee = like "ee" in "pee" "-i" in jyutpin-eew = sonds like the "ew" in "few" (Yeew3 - will/want) "-iu" in jyutpin
-euh = like the "er" in "her" (Teuh3 - to spit)
-o = like the "ough" in "thought"(Ngo5 - me)
-oh
-oi
-eui = no English equivalent; sounds like "uh-ee" put together(Heui3 - to go)
-ui = sounds like "ooee" (Wui6 - can/will)
-u
-y = like French "tu"(Y5 - rain)

*Words that end in "k", "p", and "t" sound like English words that have those endings.

-an = like (Yan4 -person)
-ahn = long "-an"
-on = sounds like "on"
-eun = kind of rhymes with "bun" (Cheun1 - spring)

Radicals coming soon.
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post Sep 15 2005, 07:49 PM
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Yes, it should. Frenchie, did you not ask Ben for permission? If not i'll do it.

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