Why r non-Malay/Bumiputera whining so much about NEP?, If it's making Malay-Bumi backward then it should be them whining Options

[PerisaiLangkasuk...]

I've recently noticed so much whine, moan, groan n sigh coming from non-Malay/Bumiputera about the NEP, Malay-Bumiputera special rights & privileges etc. They cite its so called counter-productivity, worthlessness, shortsightedness yadda yadda yadda.

Question is, if it's so useless, counter-productive, worthless, makes the Malay-Bumiputera uncompetitive, unproductive etc. how come it's the non-Malay/Bumiputera that's whining the most? To me, if all those things r true, then it should be the Malay-Bumiputera who's whining.

Funny. Am I missing something?

Ha ha ha. Gotcha. There IS a hidden agenda, isnt there? You're leading us all Malay-Bumiputera into a trap, arent you?

The trap of throwing away our sword cum shield cum armour. By calling it a "tongkat".

Oh yes.

But you misjudged us. We're not that dense, dudes.

This post has been edited by PerisaiLangkasuka: Nov 13 2008, 03:51 AM

[MioKawaii]

Ha ha ha. Gotcha. There IS a hidden agenda, isnt there? You're leading us all Malay-Bumiputera into a trap, arent you?

The trap of throwing away our sword cum shield cum armour. By calling it a "tongkat".

Oh yes.

But you misjudged us. We're not that dense, dudes.

so u do realized that Malay-Bumiputera are the only one that have provided "sword + shield + armour" in a multi-racial country which all race all eligible to pay tax.
Actually I don't call those "tongkat", it's more like spoon feeding a retard person for life as they are incapable of living on themself.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with all these only that some of them (Malay-Bumiputera) are actually proud of all these, LOL

[swingdoctor]

I've recently noticed so much whine, moan, groan n sigh coming from non-Malay/Bumiputera about the NEP, Malay-Bumiputera special rights & privileges etc. They cite its so called counter-productivity, worthlessness, shortsightedness yadda yadda yadda.

Question is, if it's so useless, counter-productive, worthless, makes the Malay-Bumiputera uncompetitive, unproductive etc. how come it's the non-Malay/Bumiputera that's whining the most? To me, if all those things r true, then it should be the Malay-Bumiputera who's whining.

Funny. Am I missing something?

Ha ha ha. Gotcha. There IS a hidden agenda, isnt there? You're leading us all Malay-Bumiputera into a trap, arent you?

The trap of throwing away our sword cum shield cum armour. By calling it a "tongkat".

Oh yes.

But you misjudged us. We're not that dense, dudes.

My gripe is that it is unfair and that it breeds arrogance and disunity and is counterprotuctive in the long term to what it was meant to achieve. Besides, this topic has been covered before, why not read up the old topics instead of starting a new one. Unless you have a new point to make, then make it.

[yiming2000]

My gripe is that it is unfair and that it breeds arrogance and disunity and is counterprotuctive in the long term to what it was meant to achieve. Besides, this topic has been covered before, why not read up the old topics instead of starting a new one. Unless you have a new point to make, then make it.

There is no new point to make. It is the same point of social injustice that bugs the hell out of every civilized God-loving person everytime he thinks about it. Human cruelty to human is not a new thing. It happens all the time all over the planet. We must keep on griping until God hears our plea and prayer. If the truth is only in Islam, then there is a lot of evil going on in the name of Islam.

[plastiCube]

Well... how bout being to lame to realize the reality?

[yiming2000]

Well... how bout being to lame to realize the reality?

Plasticube, what are you saying?

[deadfish]

Question is, if it's so useless, counter-productive, worthless, makes the Malay-Bumiputera uncompetitive, unproductive etc. how come it's the non-Malay/Bumiputera that's whining the most? To me, if all those things r true, then it should be the Malay-Bumiputera who's whining.

Apparently only Malay-Bumiputera who can whine? (Malay-bumiputera, what an oxymoron word.)
Seems to me that Malay-bumiputera who's whining are people who are less vocal. Those vocal Malay-Bumiputera who are whining such as RPK or Zaid are branded outcasts and thrown in jail or sacked. Are they not Malay-Bumiputera? Or are u obliviously blind to these things happening?

Sidenote: let me share a simple story with you all:
In a language class, the lecturer said: In most language, 2 negative words combines to give a positive meaning. For example: No Malays are not hardworking. The 2 negative words "No" and "Not" cancels the negative effect thus giving the positive meaning of "Malays are hardworking". However, there are no cases whereby 2 positive words will combine to give a negative meaning.
DeadFish shouted from the back of the class,

We're not that dense, dudes.

Yeah, right.

[dreamhunter]

I would like to gv you some advice, if I may. You should forget any dreams of becoming an English teacher. Cos your English is simply hopeless. Just $hittily, stinkingly, crappily hopeless.

What Perisai means by "Malay-Bumiputera" is the combined "Malay + Bumiputera" entity. The "Malay" part of the combo is NOT being used as an adjective. It is being used as a NOUN as much as the "Bumiputera" part is. That is, if you hv the capability to distinguish between an adjective n a noun.

Just like what guys mean when they say "Russia-China", or "France-Germany".

For example, as in, "The main driving force in the evolution of the European Union was France-Germany."

If the word "Malay", or "Chinese", or "Indian", is being used as an adjective, then there is no need for a hyphen. As in, "Dreamhunter is a Malay Malaysian," or "DeadFish is a Chinese Malaysian,", or "Maldini is an Indian Malaysian."

Before you jump n scream, "Hey, look", when you say "Chinese Malaysian", it means a Malaysian of Chinese ethnicity. Compared to a Malaysian of another ethnicity, say Indian, or Malay, ethnicity. You're speaking of him as a Malaysian first, n a Chinese second.

But if you say "Malaysian Chinese", it means a Chinese who happens to hv Malaysian citizenship. As opposed to a Chinese who hv other citizenship, say Indonesian, or Singaporean, citizenship. You're now speaking of him as a Chinese first, n a Malaysian second.

But this is a common mistake often made by many Malaysians. They often call themselves "Malaysian Chinese" or "Malaysian Indian". Whereas it would be more correct, both grammatically n politically, to say "Chinese Malaysian" or "Indian Malaysian".

For example, American citizens of African ancestry r called African Americans, NOT American Africans.

You know. You should be more careful when tossing some of those big words around. Words which r obviously too big for YOU to handle, like OXYMORON, for instance. Cos you just end up making a great, big fool of yourself.

Kid.

This post has been edited by dreamhunter: Nov 17 2008, 06:47 AM

[deadfish]

dreamhunter. Did i ever say that word is wrong? I just find it rather interesting. It is as good as saying Paris-France since Paris is part of france as Malay is part of bumiputera. But why specify as if only Malay-bumiputera's view that is important? Isn't all bumi of equal status? Or some animals are more equal than other? XD

I didn't even finish reading your crap. Because apparently your mentality is no more than a kid and you manage to miss all the main points and pick on a small detail that you have also interpreted wrongly. How you manage to complete this feat remains a mystery to me. You have tofu for brains? (edit: someone just told me u dont have one. sorry)

I use simple english. But apparently simple english is too bombastic for you to handle. LOL. you are a disgrace to your family. zip your gaping hole and stop talking through your rectum.

[plastiCube]

But why specify as if only Malay-bumiputera's view that is important? Isn't all bumi of equal status? Or some animals are more equal than other? XD

m.. did ya mean something from the animal farm, which animal is more equal or superior to another byway?

[plastiCube]

Plasticube, what are you saying?

so u do realized that Malay-Bumiputera are the only one that have provided "sword + shield + armour" in a multi-racial country which all race all eligible to pay tax.
Actually I don't call those "tongkat", it's more like spoon feeding a retard person for life as they are incapable of living on themself.

errmm. Mate soz for the confusion, i was actually replying to "MioKawaii"s statement. What i was saying is, either they're too selfish or too lame to realize the real situation. They're too lame to realize and be thankful that they are being spoon fed at the same time retarded enough to be proudly bragging about it.

[deadfish]

m.. did ya mean something from the animal farm, which animal is more equal or superior to another byway?

Yes, it is a quote from animal farm for the literates.

[yiming2000]

errmm. Mate soz for the confusion, i was actually replying to "MioKawaii"s statement. What i was saying is, either they're too selfish or too lame to realize the real situation. They're too lame to realize and be thankful that they are being spoon fed at the same time retarded enough to be proudly bragging about it.

Ok, I get it. Actually, PerisaiLangkasuka is an idiot and that comes from a diet of nasi lemak. I tell you, Malays like him can't eat their rice without sambal and that stinking poison is frying their lemang brains.

You are right. PerisaiLangkasuka is too much of a lamebrain to realize that he is like a dog who bites the hand that feeds him. That hand is not a non-Malay hand but God's hand. God have given them the opportunity to hold power in government. And they have abused that opportunity by being corrupt. After 50 years of corruption, Malaysia is filled with millions of poverty-strickened Malays like PerisaiLangkasuka. He has a point, though. If what I say is true, then he should be whining. But as you say, his brain is too lame to see the truth about his situation. He wants t hold onto his tongkat.

[deadfish]

Wow, i am psychic!

Read here

IN George Orwell's novel Animal Farm, there's a line about how all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. The same could be said about the component parties in the Barisan Nasional (BN).

[Protoculture]

NEP ..... hell, everybody gripe about 'em, especially Malay Towkays whose contracts & tenders they applied are yanked to UMNO-affliated businessmen.

Surprisingly, NEP also was created on the ideals of equal economic distribution even to non-Bumis, despite its objective to uplift the Bumiputras.

Strangely, UMNO-putras thought those rights are for their selected few only ....

[plastiCube]

Policy without research and study made with utter flaw in conjunction to doom and failure.

[yiming2000]

Policy without research and study made with utter flaw in conjunction to doom and failure.

That's exactly how I like it. Policy without research is like blind people playing hide and seek with us who can see. We have to keep very silent when they are near us. One giggle and they will reach out to catch us.

[Esfandiari]

NEP, like Ketuanan Melayu, will stay on forever or for as long as Malays want it. Non-Malays can whine and moan and groan all they want but it won't change a bit.

Of course, post-2008 Elections see the whining, groaning and moaning getting louder and louder with Pakatan Rakyat Malay leaders like Anwar Ibrahim and Abdul Khalid (Selangor MB) joining the fray pretending to be "heroes' fighting on behalf of their non-Malay clients. Having won 82 federal seats at BN's expense and 5 states, it only whets their appetite for more whining, groaning and moaning.

Now they go around saying that even many Malays are now against the NEP as evidenced by lots of Malays voting even for DAP. Well, I was one one of those staunchly anti-UMNO Malays THEN voting for DAP and Pakatan Rakyat. I voted DAP for the first time in my life. I voted DAP because there was no PAS in my area. And I wanted to vote PAS just to VENT my years of pent-up frustrations with UMNO because of its arrogance, corruption and abuse of power and state apparatus; PAS people issued a "fatwa" for me that it was OK to vote DAP with PAS permission!!

I never voted for DAP to have the NEP or the Ketuanan Melayu abolished or the role of Bahasa Melayu or Islam compromised!! They're reading the signals wrong. Now DAP and PAS have lost my trust. Gee! I can't wait for the next Elections! I want to punish both PAS and DAP! Lots and lots of Malays are feeling like me, we're just waiting for the next Elections, we want to pounce on PAS, DAP and PKR and tear them to pieces!! So, Pakatan Rakyat, enjoy your rule in the five states and your control of 82 federal seats in Parliament while it lasts! This may be your last big meal!!


And people like Anwar Ibrahim and Selangor's MB Abdul Khalid are themselves products of NEP: they wouldn't be where they are now without NEP. What what a bunch of bigmouths they have turned out to be!! And NEP has also created a big Malay middle class with a huge purchasing power that's helping Chinese-owned businesses.

You think NEP spoon feeding? So what!! This is our country and we'll spoonfeed ourselves till eternity if we so much want it, nobody's business! And if you think spoonfeeding's bad for Malays, wouldn't that be good for you? Wouldn't anything that's bad for Malays be good for you??? So, keep on whining...

[deadfish]

PAS people issued a "fatwa" for me that it was OK to vote DAP with PAS permission!!

Wow. fatwa. wow at your intelligence..

I never voted for DAP to have the NEP or the Ketuanan Melayu abolished or the role of Bahasa Melayu or Islam compromised!!

And to your tiny brain you assumed NEP = Ketuanan Melayu = Bahasa Melayu = Islam?
Another wow.
Hey, mind showing some evidence for all that you have claimed? One for each - NEP, Ketuanan Melayu, Bahasa Melayu, and Islam. Please show me how these are compromised by Pakatan OR DAP then i shall not vote for Pakatan Rakyat come next election.

Lots and lots of Malays are feeling like me, we're just waiting for the next Elections, we want to pounce on PAS, DAP and PKR and tear them to pieces!!

So, you are the voice of majority of Malays now? I seriously doubt that there are many stupid-Malays around. I for 1, is not. Here, have a piece of cowdung-cookie.

[Esfandiari]

Wow. fatwa. wow at your intelligence..
And to your tiny brain you assumed NEP = Ketuanan Melayu = Bahasa Melayu = Islam?
Another wow.
Hey, mind showing some evidence for all that you have claimed? One for each - NEP, Ketuanan Melayu, Bahasa Melayu, and Islam. Please show me how these are compromised by Pakatan OR DAP then i shall not vote for Pakatan Rakyat come next election.
So, you are the voice of majority of Malays now? I seriously doubt that there are many stupid-Malays around. I for 1, is not. Here, have a piece of cowdung-cookie.

Wow! Your language is so deficient and your fukking anger is so uncontrollable that you are reduced to some fukking foul language that's only fit for people with tiny brain! But I'm a good match for you!! What a fukking idiot you are, a fukking retard (I'm using your favorite word 'retard' again because you've just reduced yourself to a retard).

Nope! I'm not assuming or equating NEP as Ketuanan Melayu or Bahasa Melayu or Islam! I'm just relating it to these other issues that are important to Malays and Muslims! Fukking stupid Chinese like you are not just questioning NEP but also Ketuanan Melayu and actions by your Pakatan Rakyat goverments in their states have actually threatended the role of Bahasa Melayu and Islam in their states, and Malays are talking about it everywhere, I know it because I am a Malay. But your fukking brain is so tiny you wouldn't notice it and besides you are not a Malay..

And a Chinese like you a voice of the majority Malays? What a screwed up Chinese you are! You are not a Malay, you never will be a Malay and you never will know what Malays feel. So why don't you just shut the fukk up and stop pretending to be a spokesman for US Malays, we don't need fukking Chinese like you to be our spokesman! At least I AM A MALAY and I know what MY PEOPLE feel.... everyday I sit with Malays, eat with them, talk with them, I do everything with them, I have Malay relatives and friends all over Malaysia....I am a Malay..so shut up you fukking Chinese!!


Yeah! Call us Malays stupid if we don't support your Chinese views and agendas. Nope! There are no stupid Malays alright, only stupid Chinese like you and stupid Malays who support you! Stop pretending that we Malays love DAP: we DON'T!!! We only hate UMNO and those are two different things which your stupid teeny weeny little brain can't differentiate!! You just wait the next Elections! We are going to send back your Chinese-chauvinist DAP and its PAS and PKR supporters to where they belong. I am already campaigning among Malays and I am seeing results which you will never know..