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What is your opinion on Mixed-Raced offspring?
Jinata
post Jan 20 2009, 12:39 AM
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Are you disgusted by the idea? - I woke up at 4AM in the morning, and I found myself to be pretty bored; so I had a rummage through the stormfront.org forum that Cloudyski mentioned somewhere on the forum. Being mixed myself (Half White.. English, not American, and Half Filipino.. Pangasinan Area), I was curious to know what these people think of someone such as myself.

Clearly they don't like the idea of racial inter-breeding, and that I'm the product of those who are committing racial genocide.. Heh. Making claims that white are a pure race (Which makes me wonder) and that white women are the most attractive kind "by miles". I'm not sure whether to try to understand these people or just put it down to plain ignorance. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to topics such as these, so I'm just curious to know what you think of this kind of thing.

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HapaGirl
post Jan 20 2009, 12:51 AM
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Mixed Race, Pretty Face?

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Actor Keanu Reeves and supermodel Devon Aoki have more in common than fame, fortune and good looks—both are also part Asian. Known in popular culture by the Hawaiian term hapa (meaning "half"), people with mixed Asian and European origins have become synonymous with exotic glamour. In Hong Kong and Singapore, half-Asian models now crowd runways once dominated by leggy blondes. In the elite world of Asian fashion, half-Asian is the new white.

The trend may seem little more than an effect of 21st century globalization. As more individuals of mixed descent achieve fame (think Norah Jones and Tiger Woods), it seems natural that society would embrace the mixed look. Media exposure, however, doesn't fully explain the perception of hapa beauty.

Eurasians may possess genetic advantages that lead to greater health and, as a result, enhanced attractiveness. That's according to a study, the first to find that hapa faces are rated as more beautiful than European or Japanese faces. Researchers say the finding may extend to other racial mixes as well.

The experiment by Gillian Rhodes, a psychologist at the University of Western Australia, found that when Caucasian and Japanese volunteers looked at photos of Caucasian, Japanese and Eurasian faces, both groups rated the Eurasian faces as most attractive. These visages were created by first digitally blending a series of faces from each race into "composites" to create average, middle-of-the-road features typical of each race. Past studies show that "average" features are consistently rated as more attractive than exaggerated features—such as an unusually wide forehead or a small chin.

The finding that Japanese and white subjects preferred mixed-race faces was surprising because, earlier in the same study, most volunteers rated their own race as more beautiful than others. That is, white people typically prefer whites when choosing an ideal image of beauty; blacks prefer blacks; etc.

So why might hapas be considered particularly beautiful? Evolutionary psychologists say it's because Eurasians and other mixed race individuals appear healthier. Humans, like other animals, look for markers of good genetic health in their quest for a reproductive partner. Take facial symmetry, for example: Studies show that, whether they know it or not, people prefer individuals with evenly spaced eyes and other signs of congruence. In evolutionary terms, these markers are associated with healthy conditions in the womb. Infants exposed prenatally to toxins or pathogens may develop facial irregularities and asymmetry. The human brain may be wired to avoid these overt cues of lackluster health, says R. Elisabeth Cornwell, a psychologist at the University of Colorado. "The signs of beauty are the signs of health," she says. Rhodes' findings seem to fit this paradigm: Participants in her study said the Eurasian faces appeared healthier, too.

Similarly, evidence suggests that half-Asians' diverse genetic ancestry would enhance health. According to evolutionary psychologist Randy Thornhill, at the University of New Mexico, "If you hybridize two genetically diverse populations—another way of saying you cross races—then you create more genetic diversity in the offspring."

Genetic diversity, or heterozygosity, is associated with a lower incidence of some diseases. Genetic diseases, such as hemophilia and Tay-Sachs, occur when a person inherits two copies of a defective gene. This is more likely to happen in isolated populations with little genetic diversity.

In 2004, Craig Roberts, professor of biology at the University of Newcastle in the U.K., found the first direct link between diverse genes and facial attractiveness. He examined genes of the major histocompatability complex (MHC)—a set of genes crucial to a well-functioning immune system. Photos of people with the greatest MHC diversity were rated more attractive than individuals with less MHC diversity. Here, actual health—the ability to resist infection—was linked to perceptions of attractiveness. Roberts believes this preference helps humans pick healthy mates.

Which features radiate both health and beauty? One may be the appearance of the skin. In a second experiment, Roberts found that women rated close-up photos of heterozygous males' skin as healthier than close-ups of homozygous males' skin, and these judgments correlated with ratings of overall attractiveness.

Ostensibly, evidence that Caucasians and Asians prefer mixed race faces counters a major tenet of mating theory: that we are drawn to partners who resemble ourselves, such as those with similar hair and eye color.

So does this new research explain the popularity of Brazilians, who frequently have blended racial heritage, as fashion models? That remains to be seen. Says Rhodes: "If a preference for mixed-race faces occurs for many different mixes, we could be more confident that it is tapping into something fundamental about human perceptions of attractiveness."

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- Jinata   What is your opinion on Mixed-Raced offspring?   Jan 20 2009, 12:39 AM
- - mndeg   nobody really cares   Jan 20 2009, 12:42 AM
- - Vinceroni   I think mixed race people are the most beautiful i...   Jan 20 2009, 12:44 AM
- - Jinata   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 05:42 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 12:44 AM
- - HapaGirl   considering I'm 1/2 Japanese.....I'd say I...   Jan 20 2009, 12:45 AM
|- - Federico   You should be proud to be a part of two great cult...   Jan 20 2009, 12:53 AM
- - mndeg   wrong, knowledge fail nobody really cares. and m...   Jan 20 2009, 12:46 AM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 12:46 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 12:47 AM
|- - SugarandSpice   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 12:46 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 10:55 PM
- - Jinata   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 05:46 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 12:47 AM
- - mndeg   no, I understand people and am MUCH MUCH smarter t...   Jan 20 2009, 12:48 AM
|- - Vinceroni   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 12:48 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 12:52 AM
|- - mndeg   QUOTE(Vinceroni @ Jan 20 2009, 01:52 AM) ...   Jan 20 2009, 01:04 AM
- - Jinata   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 05:46 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 12:49 AM
- - Jinata   QUOTE(mndeg @ Jan 20 2009, 05:48 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 12:51 AM
- - HapaGirl   Mixed Race, Pretty Face? QUOTEActor Keanu Reeves ...   Jan 20 2009, 12:51 AM
- - HapaGirl   yes i do care!!!   Jan 20 2009, 12:53 AM
- - Aryan   Im mixed myself, mixed race is fine with me   Jan 20 2009, 12:59 AM
- - Jinata   I just care for the opinions of others, it's i...   Jan 20 2009, 12:59 AM
- - Jinata   ^ What is your objection to this thread? - I don...   Jan 20 2009, 01:12 AM
- - Spasiangirl   QUOTEI was curious to know what these people think...   Jan 20 2009, 01:29 AM
- - Disco Gestapo   Well...being mixed I'd say...I don't reall...   Jan 20 2009, 01:46 AM
- - Rogu3   Some are pretty decent , I wouldn't mind mixin...   Jan 20 2009, 02:20 AM
|- - Spasiangirl   QUOTE(Rogu3 @ Jan 20 2009, 02:20 AM) 4092...   Jan 20 2009, 02:23 AM
- - Rogu3   QUOTE(Spasiangirl @ Jan 20 2009, 02:23 AM...   Jan 20 2009, 02:35 AM
- - Takashi   Don't care. No benefit or detriment imo.   Jan 20 2009, 04:16 AM
- - Nodrog   Mixed race people are amazing, or, at least I am.   Jan 20 2009, 06:06 AM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(Nodrog @ Jan 20 2009, 06:06 AM) 409...   Jan 20 2009, 01:18 PM
- - WhiteandBlue   It's perfect natural for any two individuals o...   Jan 20 2009, 08:38 AM
- - Tabs   I have no idea why people waste their time reading...   Jan 20 2009, 08:51 AM
|- - WhiteandBlue   QUOTE(Tabs @ Jan 20 2009, 08:51 AM) 40930...   Jan 20 2009, 08:55 AM
- - AgentBach   most of the time when I see a asian/black baby, th...   Jan 20 2009, 10:17 AM
|- - URSoCOO2008   [quote name='AgentBach' date='Jan 20 2...   Jan 20 2009, 12:09 PM
|- - AgentBach   QUOTE(URSoCOO2008 @ Jan 20 2009, 12:09 PM...   Jan 20 2009, 06:29 PM
- - starry   Ok, this is what I heard and I dunno if it's t...   Jan 20 2009, 10:20 AM
- - Onlygodknows   how do I feel about mixed people? I think me sayin...   Jan 20 2009, 10:23 AM
- - WhiteandBlue   More than 90% of American whites are mixed-race. W...   Jan 20 2009, 10:38 AM
- - WhiteandBlue   This is what I don't like about the English la...   Jan 20 2009, 10:45 AM
- - YourMuDoIsWeak   I used to to lurk on Stormfront to go Facist Bashi...   Jan 20 2009, 12:24 PM
- - URSoCOO2008   Oh yeah, no one should have problems with mixed of...   Jan 20 2009, 12:26 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEmixed people usually get the best of both rac...   Jan 20 2009, 01:45 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 01:45 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 01:50 PM
|- - Takashi   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 06:45 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 01:59 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEthat's not true. I know the Japanese cul...   Jan 20 2009, 02:11 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 02:11 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 02:20 PM
|- - Takashi   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:11 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 02:21 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEyes I have Japanese friends (we get together ...   Jan 20 2009, 02:47 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 02:47 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 02:58 PM
|- - Takashi   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:47 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 04:07 PM
- - WhiteandBlue   Are we forgetting that humans aren't the only ...   Jan 20 2009, 02:50 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 02:11 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 03:19 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mikekk86 @ Jan 20 2009, 03:19 PM) 4...   Jan 20 2009, 03:21 PM
- - Adee   So do you guys get the best or the worst of both w...   Jan 20 2009, 03:21 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEno it wouldn't be because where my family...   Jan 20 2009, 03:25 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 03:25 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 03:28 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(Adee @ Jan 20 2009, 03:21 PM) 40935...   Jan 20 2009, 03:51 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEyou don't know what you're talking ab...   Jan 20 2009, 03:54 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 03:54 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 03:59 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 03:54 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 04:19 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mikekk86 @ Jan 20 2009, 04:19 PM) 4...   Jan 20 2009, 04:23 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEyou're very arrogant, too. It sounds like...   Jan 20 2009, 04:52 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 04:52 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 04:56 PM
- - WhiteandBlue   Why can't we live in peace as the white ethnic...   Jan 20 2009, 04:57 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 04:52 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 05:02 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEhow dare you say that about my uncle!...   Jan 20 2009, 05:23 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 05:23 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 05:26 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEmy race has nothing to do with this. im not s...   Jan 20 2009, 05:46 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 05:46 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 05:50 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 05:23 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 05:53 PM
- - Yer   I don't care about bi-racials. They can mix or...   Jan 20 2009, 06:38 PM
- - Disco Gestapo   Mixed kids can end up any which way, it depends en...   Jan 20 2009, 06:39 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEThere is no dilemma because I will side with ...   Jan 20 2009, 06:43 PM
|- - ClearBlueWater   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 06:43 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 06:59 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 06:43 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 07:13 PM
- - WhiteandBlue   I am not mixed. I am a PURE-BRED human.   Jan 20 2009, 06:59 PM
- - AnAmericanInAsia   QUOTE(Jinata @ Jan 20 2009, 01:39 AM) 409...   Jan 20 2009, 07:06 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 06:43 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 07:07 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEYou don't have to balance between two ide...   Jan 20 2009, 07:12 PM
|- - ClearBlueWater   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:12 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 07:28 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEyes, i would sided with america, but it still...   Jan 20 2009, 07:25 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:25 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 07:27 PM
|- - Spasiangirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:25 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 09:23 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEYour national identity is nothing more than t...   Jan 20 2009, 07:41 PM
|- - ClearBlueWater   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:41 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 08:33 PM
- - Mr Laocean   I didn't know I was supposed to have an opinio...   Jan 20 2009, 08:14 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEThis may be part of your problem. I really l...   Jan 20 2009, 08:36 PM
|- - ClearBlueWater   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 08:36 PM) 4094...   Jan 20 2009, 08:41 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEYour problem is a lack of perspective. The la...   Jan 20 2009, 08:52 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 08:52 PM) 4094...   Jan 20 2009, 08:54 PM
- - WhiteandBlue   Language is the most important, and mean THE most ...   Jan 20 2009, 09:28 PM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 07:12 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 09:37 PM
- - WhiteandBlue   QUOTETrue identity? I am who I am. That's the ...   Jan 20 2009, 09:39 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEshe's right. you're wrong. deal with...   Jan 20 2009, 09:39 PM
|- - ClearBlueWater   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 09:39 PM) 4094...   Jan 20 2009, 10:05 PM
- - mkfk1   QUOTEThere is no "conflict of national intere...   Jan 20 2009, 10:19 PM
|- - ClearBlueWater   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 10:19 PM) 4094...   Jan 20 2009, 11:24 PM
|- - HapaGirl   QUOTE(ClearBlueWater @ Jan 20 2009, 11:24...   Jan 21 2009, 12:41 AM
- - mikekk86   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 10:19 PM) 4094...   Jan 20 2009, 10:40 PM
- - Jinata   QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Jan 20 2009, 10:23 PM) 4093...   Jan 20 2009, 11:51 PM
- - Jinata   mkfk1, you speak as if every mixed person's ci...   Jan 21 2009, 12:43 AM
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