US warships head for South China Sea After Standoff, To escort US surveillance Ships Options

[millersdude]

March 12, 2009
US warships head for South China Sea after standoff
Tim Reid in Washington

A potential conflict was brewing last night in the South China Sea after President Obama dispatched heavily armed American destroyers to the scene of a naval standoff between the US and China at the weekend.

Mr Obama’s decision to send an armed escort for US surveillance ships in the area follows the aggressive and co-ordinated manoeuvres of five Chinese boats on Sunday. They harassed and nearly collided with an unarmed American vessel.

Washington accused the Chinese ships of moving directly in front of the US Navy surveillance ship Impeccable, forcing its crew to take emergency action, and to deploy a high-pressure water hose to deter the Chinese ships. Formal protests were lodged with Beijing after the incident.

On a day that Mr Obama and his senior officials met the Chinese Foreign Minister, Yang Jiechi, in Washington, Beijing showed no sign of backing down. Its military chiefs accused the unarmed US Navy ship of being on a spying mission.


The US keeps a close eye on China’s arsenal, including its expanding fleet of submarines in the area. Washington says that the confrontation occurred in international waters, but Beijing claims nearly all the South China Sea as its own, putting it in conflict with five other nations that have claims over different parts of the waters....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle5898650.ece

Maybe US and China's relationship is going down to the tube from here. How sad!

This post has been edited by millersdude: Mar 13 2009, 07:23 AM

[mkfk1]

Wow, so Obama responds with armed warship in our EMZ.

China should sent one Sur ship with one destroyer to the US EMZ near California.

[Suijen]

That's pretty aggressive.

[QuintusSertorius]

just showing who the real boss is.

[Red Fox Ace]

Water cannons and such are more important than ever; nobody expects anyone to actually open with lethal fire anytime.

[Titanium]

Like I said, if any foreign vessel ever dared enter 75 miles of US territory for surveillance purposes, they would be blown out of the water, no questions asked.

[mkfk1]

Looks like it will be another 20 years before China PLA have the guts to blow up US war ships off Chinese coast.

Well, at least we are not surrounded by them like the Opeium war.

This post has been edited by mkfk1: Mar 13 2009, 11:01 AM

[Red Fox Ace]

Like I said, if any foreign vessel ever dared enter 75 miles of US territory for surveillance purposes, they would be blown out of the water, no questions asked.

You're making a blanket statement with no proof.

[Suijen]

You're making a blanket statement with no proof.

True, but you have to consider the fact that has far more hard power than the PRC, and can get away with more in the world stage.

[Chinese DesertFo...]

There's a lesson to be learned here.

I hope incidents like this will be remembered in the future, and fuel the fire of Chinese Nationalism.

[magicguitar21]

There's a lesson to be learned here.

I hope incidents like this will be remembered in the future, and fuel the fire of Chinese Nationalism.

Heil Hitler

[Red Fox Ace]

True, but you have to consider the fact that the US has far more hard power than the PRC, and can get away with more in the world stage.

Chinese spy ships would probably be harassed to a greater degree, but even the US doesn't go around sinking ships flying foreign flags just because they're 100+ kilometers off the US coast. Not even North Korea does that.

[Titanium]

Right, your telling me that the US would tolerate a Chinese ship 75 miles from San Diego for surverying the US Naval capabilities.

[Aixer]

Chinese spy ships would probably be harassed to a greater degree, but even the US doesn't go around sinking ships flying foreign flags just because they're 100+ kilometers off the US coast. Not even North Korea does that.

You are right, a Chinese ship within 100 km of American ship would not be sunk. That is pretty obvious but the problem is in the fact that U.S. somehow think they've been wronged by the Chinese when they were caught spying and confronted. They think that THEY are the victim... What kind of logic is that?

[ltk]

Like I said, if any foreign vessel ever dared enter 75 miles of US territory for surveillance purposes, they would be blown out of the water, no questions asked.

How about a submarine surface in front of a U.S carrier?

Reminds me of how an Iranian commerical airline got blown out of water for flying "within range" of a U.S carrier

[XigonCongchua]

You guys talk as if South China sea belongs to China. Vietnam and Phillippines own parts of this sea as well.

So where in the sea were the US ships found? Were they nearer to Vietnam, Phillipines or China?

[Aixer]

You guys talk as if South China sea belongs to China. Vietnam and Phillippines own parts of this sea as well.

So where in the sea were the US ships found? Were they nearer to Vietnam, Phillipines or China?

Well, it was said that the incident took place about 75 miles south of Hainan:



If you draw a line 75 miles due south of the southernmost point of Hainain, it would be roughly equidistant between China(San Ya) and Vietnam (Da Nang), a bit closer to China I guess. No where near Phillipines though.

The issue though is that there is a large underwater submarine base in San Ya so, it is much more likely that the U.S. ship was spying on the Chinese naval base.

This post has been edited by Aixer: Mar 13 2009, 02:02 PM

[Yinheidi]

Just goes out to show who's the real boss on the high seas.

Chinese nationalists need to get a reality check.

This post has been edited by Yinheidi: Mar 13 2009, 02:15 PM

[SoCal]

Well, it was said that the incident took place about 75 miles south of Hainan:



If you draw a line 75 miles due south of the southernmost point of Hainain, it would be roughly equidistant between China(San Ya) and Vietnam (Da Nang), a bit closer to China I guess. No where near Phillipines though.

The issue though is that there is a large underwater submarine base in San Ya so, it is much more likely that the U.S. ship was spying on the Chinese naval base.

Which software program did you use for that?


Please assist.

[mndeg]

false flag operation leading to ww3?