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Philippines: Wealthiest Nation on Earth?, Following Shambhalista's Dubai Philippine gold
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post Apr 24 2009, 09:09 PM
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In 2005, 5,000 metric tons of gold were shipped out (actually by plane) to Europe. The bullions were accidentally found by a farmer somewhere in Mindanao according to writer Priscilla Almeida in her article in the Manila Bulletin. Another 2,000 was discovered and shipped to Thailand in 2006 according to her. As for Imelda Marcos, in a biography about her, it 's said that in the early years when she and marcos were together, she was amazed about so much money in Marcos little bungalow stuff in sacks and placed all over the place, in cabinets, etc. Marcos was not yet President during that time, just a Senator or congressman. But it seems that this was also the time when he was also working with Severino Santa Romana also known as Fr. Jose Antonio Diaz.
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post Apr 24 2009, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(azaz @ Apr 24 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]4207780[/snapback]
In 2005, 5,000 metric tons of gold were shipped out (actually by plane) to Europe. The bullions were accidentally found by a farmer somewhere in Mindanao according to writer Priscilla Almeida in her article in the Manila Bulletin. Another 2,000 was discovered and shipped to Thailand in 2006 according to her. As for Imelda Marcos, in a biography about her, it 's said that in the early years when she and marcos were together, she was amazed about so much money in Marcos little bungalow stuff in sacks and placed all over the place, in cabinets, etc. Marcos was not yet President during that time, just a Senator or congressman. But it seems that this was also the time when he was also working with Severino Santa Romana also known as Fr. Jose Antonio Diaz.



i read this,too in my bios-- Marcos always had illegal activities as soon as he entered politics.But this was only the beginning for him.. shows you how amoral & greedy they were/are-- & why even more unconcionable-- how they really 'raped' the Phil. hell, Marcos mostly pocketed the revenue from the US bases for years-- worth in the billions! that should have gone improving that country. they had their fingers in every pie, I tell you.

but the worst sin of all-- they brought in those foreign phedophiles to molest those poor children in the streets of manila-- Imelda got a cut from it all. I have NO patience for this sh*T-- NONE! Do you know when I lived in London?? Scotland Yard Special Branch was investigating Kiddie porn & the secret phedophile societies & when they did- found special trips to manila?? sickening!!!
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post Apr 25 2009, 12:08 AM
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and these ped mostly were into boys!! they were being sold for like a $1..
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post Apr 25 2009, 01:01 AM
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i've been pointing this out to alexandra.
why would marcos loot from the country's coffer when his professional fees from being the attorney of jose antonio diaz or santa romana will make him a billionaire already.

in case you didn't know jose antonio diaz is the caretaker of this asian treasure aka the yama$hita hoax.
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post Apr 25 2009, 01:16 AM
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Marcos Scandal

There was no Betamax and YouTube that time.
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post Apr 25 2009, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(trismegistos @ Apr 25 2009, 01:01 AM) [snapback]4208036[/snapback]
i've been pointing this out to alexandra.
why would marcos loot from the country's coffer when his professional fees from being the attorney of jose antonio diaz or santa romana will make him a billionaire already.

in case you didn't know jose antonio diaz is the caretaker of this asian treasure aka the yama$hita hoax.


ay! you're so in denial about this damn Marcos.. i tell you.. IF HE WASN'T STEALING THAT COUNTRY'S COFFERS?? WHY IS IT SO POOR?
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post Apr 25 2009, 01:21 AM
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,my mother knew one of the first political backers of Marcos-- when he was still poor,ok?? they were our close family friends.
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post Apr 25 2009, 01:26 AM
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sorry about this double dipping//

anyway-- I saw first hand the way Berniece's family improved their fortunes as marcos rose in power.. hell, they used to live in a cramp apt behind where my cousin lived in their house-- I saw them moving about until marcos became president.. as we shared the same school. until we became classmates even pals. shoot! I kept riding in Marcos' old Lincoln's.. lol.
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post Apr 25 2009, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE(alexandra @ Apr 25 2009, 01:21 AM) [snapback]4208060[/snapback]
,my mother knew one of the first political backers of Marcos-- when he was still poor,ok?? they were our close family friends.


you are not reading the post of azaz.
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QUOTE(azaz @ Apr 24 2009, 09:09 PM) [snapback]4207780[/snapback]
In 2005, 5,000 metric tons of gold were shipped out (actually by plane) to Europe. The bullions were accidentally found by a farmer somewhere in Mindanao according to writer Priscilla Almeida in her article in the Manila Bulletin. Another 2,000 was discovered and shipped to Thailand in 2006 according to her. As for Imelda Marcos, in a biography about her, it 's said that in the early years when she and marcos were together, she was amazed about so much money in Marcos little bungalow stuff in sacks and placed all over the place, in cabinets, etc. Marcos was not yet President during that time, just a Senator or congressman. But it seems that this was also the time when he was also working with Severino Santa Romana also known as Fr. Jose Antonio Diaz.

in short, marcos was already a billionaire before he became president.

QUOTE(alexandra @ Apr 25 2009, 01:26 AM) [snapback]4208065[/snapback]
sorry about this double dipping//

anyway-- I saw first hand the way Berniece's family improved their fortunes as marcos rose in power.. hell, they used to live in a cramp apt behind where my cousin lived in their house-- I saw them moving about until marcos became president.. as we shared the same school. until we became classmates even pals. shoot! I kept riding in Marcos' old Lincoln's.. lol.


what is the relation of marcos to this berniece of yours?
is she related to the maternal side(bulacan-tagalog-trinidad) of imelda and not from her paternal side(leyte-waray-romualdez)?
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post Apr 25 2009, 05:09 AM
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ay.. you keep using the word BILLIONAIRE.. in the 60's-- there were NO billionaires-- unless you were Howard Hughes@ billionaires maybe a dime a dozen now-- but not then-- when money had more value.

MARCOS WAS NOT A BILLIONAIRE IN THE 50'S, 60'S-- not until he became president.. from stealing the Phil treasury.. sure there was money lying about as far as Imelda was concerned-- it was in pesos.. & coming from her humble background-- not being a true blue romualdez.. Marcos was rich.. Marcos was busy getting kick backs the moment he got into politics--as a congressman.He was ,mainly getting it from the Chinese merchants- considering his real father was one.. who educated him.

you keep going on aBOUT THIS GOLD-- IT MEANS NOTHING.. as it cannot be in circulation.. I was just watching CCTV9 from Beijing & China now holds the 6th largest gold reserves having 1,000plus tons.. & China had to report to the world Market.. to make it legit.

Marcos really made his fortune-- stealing from that country & getting cuts in every industry there was-- why do you think foreign investors left that country? they set up shop elsewhere in Asia.. like China..

you can yap till you get blue over this gold-- but it finally didn't serve Marcos any good.. Imelda was giving it away to her friends as party favours-- like I said before.
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post Apr 25 2009, 05:18 AM
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do you know-- Marcos spent so much money stealing the election in 1969?? he spent it in dollars-- the US reparationns meant for that country from WW2 & leases for the US bases.. can you imagine how much that was? when it was meant for that country?
remember- we were still there & I was already politically aware.. even then we knew he wanted to be a dictator & hatching martial law.Imelda was giving posh education to her kids as she was planning Imee to marry Prince charles.. this before it went public yrs later..apparently going up the massive stairs at Malacanang.. Imelda muttered.. they will never leave it(she said in tagalog)
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post Apr 25 2009, 05:40 AM
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QUOTE(alexandra @ Apr 25 2009, 05:09 AM) [snapback]4208183[/snapback]
ay.. you keep using the word BILLIONAIRE.. in the 60's-- there were NO billionaires-- unless you were Howard Hughes@ billionaires maybe a dime a dozen now-- but not then-- when money had more value.

MARCOS WAS NOT A BILLIONAIRE IN THE 50'S, 60'S-- not until he became president.. from stealing the Phil treasury.. sure there was money lying about as far as Imelda was concerned-- it was in pesos.. & coming from her humble background-- not being a true blue romualdez.. Marcos was rich.. Marcos was busy getting kick backs the moment he got into politics--as a congressman.He was ,mainly getting it from the Chinese merchants- considering his real father was one.. who educated him.

you keep going on aBOUT THIS GOLD-- IT MEANS NOTHING.. as it cannot be in circulation.. I was just watching CCTV9 from Beijing & China now holds the 6th largest gold reserves having 1,000plus tons.. & China had to report to the world Market.. to make it legit.

Marcos really made his fortune-- stealing from that country & getting cuts in every industry there was-- why do you think foreign investors left that country? they set up shop elsewhere in Asia.. like China..

you can yap till you get blue over this gold-- but it finally didn't serve Marcos any good.. Imelda was giving it away to her friends as party favours-- like I said before.

if you compute 10 percent of the santa romana account as professional fee for being the attorney of jose antonio diaz who was the caretaker of this gold hoard, and you'll get that the word billionaire is an understatement.

those thousand tons of gold are not worthless, those paper money which they keep on printing to salve the ailing global economy are worthless.

ot: can you please answer my question regarding the connection of berniece with the marcoses. is she a relative of imelda? from what i gathered from your ancestry your family has ties to the bulacan province as you yourself state that your grand mother was a proud Tagala from bulacan. Hence, berniece is related to the trinidad side of imelda. am i correct?

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post Apr 25 2009, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE(trismegistos @ Apr 25 2009, 05:40 AM) [snapback]4208197[/snapback]
if you compute 10 percent of the santa romana account as professional fee for being the attorney of jose antonio diaz who was the caretaker of this gold hoard, and you'll get that the word billionaire is an understatement.

those thousand tons of gold are not worthless, those paper money which they keep on printing to salve the ailing global economy are worthless.

ot: can you please answer my question regarding the connection of berniece with the marcoses. is she a relative of imelda? from what i gathered from your ancestry your family has ties to the bulacan province as you yourself state that your grand mother was a proud Tagala from bulacan. Hence, berniece is related to the trinidad side of imelda. am i correct?


Berniece's father was Imelda's half brother from Pure Romualdez side-- metr him several times .. nice man.. oh yeah.. HE HAD GREEN EYES..

yeah, from my own mother's side-- Imelda's mother was care of by some of my own relatives-- got a nun or 2 in the clan.

you'rre making more of a deal over this gold-- but you don';t comment over Marcos stealing US funds.
as for this gold???? YOU'RE SAYING THIS INDIVIDUAL IS HOLDING THE WHOLE ECONOMY OF PHIL???

do you understand what I'm talking about even??? as you keep insisting on this? GOLD WHEN IT HASN'T BEEN IN CIRCULATION.. CANNOT BE USED.. AS THIS GOLD FOUND CAME FROM ANOTHER CENTURY.. do you understand this??? I don't think-- you have a clue what I'm talking about here.. Marcos could have found 30,000 tons.. for all I care-- he couldn't do tiddly with it. and this gold wasn't backing a country's economy,either.

WELL, WE'VE ALL WATCHED GOLDFINGER-- THE BOND FILM.. WELL, WHAT WAS GOLDFINGER UP TO?? ROBBING FORT KNOX.. BUT THAT GOLD WAS BACKING A COUNTRY'S ECONOMY & was in circulation.. UNLIKE MARCOS GOLD.
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post Apr 25 2009, 06:27 AM
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those are black propaganda by the cia, who was out to plunder the santa romana account.
i'm sure you get those info from the marcos bio written by authors paid by the financial elites.
just like the yama$hita hoax they have created as a smokescreen to the actual treasures of our majapahitan and srivijayan ancestors they have hoarded from trading of spices, chinawares, gold, etc.
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post Apr 25 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(trismegistos @ Apr 25 2009, 06:27 AM) [snapback]4208209[/snapback]
those are black propaganda by the cia, who was out to plunder the santa romana account.
i'm sure you get those info from the marcos bio written by authors paid by the financial elites.
just like the yama$hita hoax they have created as a smokescreen to the actual treasures of our majapahitan and srivijayan ancestors they have hoarded from trading of spices, chinawares, gold, etc.



NO! I checked independently HOW GOLD IS TRADED IN TODAYS WORLD'S MARKET.. & I was still in London then.. has nothing to do with CIA or any entiy.

this is what I've been s aying all along- just like diamonds.. that hoard can be the biggest in the world-- it doesn't mean a damn thing..

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post Apr 26 2009, 05:52 AM
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When Ex priest Fr. Marcelino Tagle of Caritas Manila appeared before the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee on Oct. 14, 1999, He estimated Marcos wealth at 10 Trillion USD, yes, TRILLIONS OF US DOLLARS. And Tagle pointed to Fr. Jose Antonio Diaz as the source of this wealth. I hope somebody here get a copy of Tagle's other revelationS in that Senate hearing. Manuel Quezon III also has an article on this topic in his site (http://www.quezon.ph/2005/04/30/fr-reuter-on-mrs-quezon/) but, as always, more details are hard to find.
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QUOTE(alexandra @ Apr 25 2009, 02:09 PM) [snapback]4208183[/snapback]
ay.. you keep using the word BILLIONAIRE.. in the 60's-- there were NO billionaires-- unless you were Howard Hughes@ billionaires maybe a dime a dozen now-- but not then-- when money had more value.

MARCOS WAS NOT A BILLIONAIRE IN THE 50'S, 60'S-- not until he became president.. from stealing the Phil treasury.. sure there was money lying about as far as Imelda was concerned-- it was in pesos.. & coming from her humble background-- not being a true blue romualdez.. Marcos was rich.. Marcos was busy getting kick backs the moment he got into politics--as a congressman.He was ,mainly getting it from the Chinese merchants- considering his real father was one.. who educated him.

you keep going on aBOUT THIS GOLD-- IT MEANS NOTHING.. as it cannot be in circulation.. I was just watching CCTV9 from Beijing & China now holds the 6th largest gold reserves having 1,000plus tons.. & China had to report to the world Market.. to make it legit.

Marcos really made his fortune-- stealing from that country & getting cuts in every industry there was-- why do you think foreign investors left that country? they set up shop elsewhere in Asia.. like China..

you can yap till you get blue over this gold-- but it finally didn't serve Marcos any good.. Imelda was giving it away to her friends as party favours-- like I said before.



do you know or still remember how much is the exhange rate of the peso vis-a-vis the dollar at that time? it can't be 50Php to the $ i'm sure...

take a guess...

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post Apr 26 2009, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(Pogpog @ Apr 26 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]4209271[/snapback]
do you know or still remember how much is the exhange rate of the peso vis-a-vis the dollar at that time? it can't be 50Php to the $ i'm sure...

take a guess...



i already told you-- it was 2 to 1.. wh means 2pesos equals DOLLAR.

AS FOR mACOS-- SURE HE HAD THIS MONEY LYING ABOUT-- DOUBTFUL HE HAD MILLIONS US LYING ABOUT.. Marcos got very rich after his first US visit to DC-- as he pocketed most of the US funds he got from Johnson-- even Imelda got $5mil US for a shopping spree..

were you around in the 60's??? or are you getting your info from books??? from school?? in hindsight??

I noticed some of the info being posting here are so OFF the beam-- I remember Marcos being a senate president running for president.. his re-election,etc... just like the Beatles incident-- don't have to read about it-- I was there when it happened..
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Marcos had Imelda seduce Lopez( & I do mean.. wink.. wink..) to b e his running mate as VP as they wanted his money as well as his press outlets-- to work for him not against .. for his first run.
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sorry for this.. but an after thought-- I wonder if anyone will have the guts to write the definitive bio on the Marcoses.. with all their dirt, greed & depravity.. boy!!! it will make the BORGIAS blush I'm sure.. ha.. what's out is not even the tip of the iceberg..

too bad western biographers aren't really interested in them.. but those are the ones who'll have the guts & know-how.. to do it.. as with a filipino gets so subjective.. i noticed like the Pedrosa book..
like they do here with the Kennedy's. Just letting it all hung out.. it won't be Pretty.. NOT at all.
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