Philippines: Wealthiest Nation on Earth?, Following Shambhalista's Dubai Philippine gold Options

[higaynon]

Sri Vijayan? Does that make us feel better?

The countries south of the Philippines would look down on us.

Where's your Filipino pride.

I am proud to be called Maharlikan than Filipino.

[silangan]

I am proud to be called Maharlikan than Filipino.

Am I dreaming?

Are you from the Philippines at all? You went to school there?

This is what I'm saying......Our school has failed.

If Filipinos are confused. It's got to be our school who's to blame.

We're all living in fantasy.

If we Filipinos are to be respected at all, then something has to be done.

Why can't we be proud of ourselves as Filipinos?

We don't need thousands of years of written history to make us look cool.

After all, much of other countries history are doubtful.

[matigasngulo]

After all, much of other countries history are doubtful.

Say whaaat ?

[trismegistos]

Where is also the Filipino Pride in claiming they are Amis (because of some make belief linguistic theories which doesnt jibe with current genetic studies), who presently didn't even have a nation state of their own. Instead the credit will be due to the Taiwanese.

If you will interpret carefully the Laguna copperplate Inscription which was made at the peak of the Srivijayan empire...
The Sovereign in Tondo hold higher position acting as the supreme judge among neighboring states and various allies.
It is noteworthy which Majapahitan mentioned previously that the state of Medang mentioned was the Hindu Kingdom of Mataram in Java and the sovereign of Medang was acting as a representative of the Dewata or Butuan King.

If you will read my previous posts it is my contention that the capital of Srivijayas(also known by the Chinese as Sanfotsi and by the Arabs as Zabag) was in the Philippine isles. Have already debated with Majapahitan on this matter before.

Let's stop the Flipinization. And reclaim our royal Maharlikan birthright.

[silangan]

Where is also the Filipino Pride in claiming they are Amis (because of some make belief linguistic theories which doesnt jibe with current genetic studies), who presently didn't even have a nation state of their own. Instead the credit will be due to the Taiwanese.

If you will interpret carefully the Laguna copperplate Inscription which was made at the peak of the Srivijayan empire...
The Sovereign in Tondo hold higher position acting as the supreme judge among neighboring states and various allies.
It is noteworthy which Majapahitan mentioned previously that the state of Medang mentioned was the Hindu Kingdom of Mataram in Java and the sovereign of Medang was acting as a representative of the Dewata or Butuan King.

If you will read my previous posts it is my contention that the capital of Srivijayas(also known by the Chinese as Sanfotsi and by the Arabs as Zabag) was in the Philippine isles. Have already debated with Majapahitan on this matter before.

Let's stop the Flipinization. And reclaim our royal Maharlikan birthright.

You guys have always wanted to connect yourselves with other countries' culture and claim it as your own too.

What they were talking about the Ami was the race. It has nothing to do with a people's "greatness" or "achievement".

But you were talking about "kingdom".... You were talking about "achievement" of a people.

We can be related to the Ami's, Indonesians, Malaysians, etc. etc....but that's just it.

All people share affinity. But not all share achievement.

Right now we're Filipinos. I know you don't like "filipino" because of our present situation. We are poor.

But changing our nationality into something won't change our present situation. It would be embarrassing as it only shows desperation.

[silangan]

Say whaaat ?

Countries re-write their history.

[trismegistos]

You guys have always wanted to connect yourselves with other countries' culture and claim it as your own too.

What they were talking about the Ami was the race. It has nothing to do with a people's "greatness" or "achievement".

But you were talking about "kingdom".... You were talking about "achievement" of a people.

We can be related to the Ami's, Indonesians, Malaysians, etc. etc....but that's just it.

All people share affinity. But not all share achievement.

Right now we're Filipinos. I know you don't like "filipino" because of our present situation. We are poor.

But changing our nationality into something won't change our present situation. It would be embarrassing as it only shows desperation.

Our maoist journalist Lindsay's and the linguist Bellwood's theory of Out of Taiwan is already been debunked by various geneticists.

Who said we are trying to change nationality here.

As for the renaming of the Philippines, a Colonial name, it sounds like to mediocre minds with materialist atheistic philosophy that renaming of a country have no effect in the consciousness of the people. But to masons, mystics, visionaries, wise sages, wiccans, theosophists, yogis, those who are in the esoteric circles and those into the metaphysics have all along know about the power of the Name since ancient times. In fact, in the bible it is everywhere about the power of Name and the power of Decreeing. Yogis called it Mantras or tantras, the occidental magicians called it caballah, etc. Everything that exist in the universe has names. Name carry an energetic vibration. Everything in the Universe is connected. Everything is Energy. With the naming of the people of the colonial country called the Philippines to Filipinos, became the start of the bastardation and the FLIPINIZATION of the Philippines as the SICKMAN OF ASIA.

MAHARLIKA IS A NOBLE NAME OF A REPLACEMENT TO A COLONIAL NAME.

You must have problem comprehending or something. There is a big difference between claiming what was not ours and reclaiming what is really ours. And I am referring for the latter. You need to study our precolonial past, that the Indonesians, Malaysians, and the Flipinoys were under Unity in Diversity.

What's wrong reconnecting to our distant precolonial past. Better to try to emulate Rizal's footsteps who researched history and found out about our glorious precolonial past(We were trading aboard large vessels called dyong or Junks with our neighbors)of which the colonizers were trying to suppress.

The proselytization by the Spaniards and the banning of trading/seafaring ways, and the banning of the carrying of arms finally made the islanders pacified and ISOLATED from their other Malay brethren(Spaniards only sanctioned the official Galleon trade for their profit as well as some mestizos'). The Spaniards were guilty also of cultural extinction, now we've forgotten our past, our connections with our Southeast Asian brothers and made our people INDOLENT(noticed by French and Austrian observers and even by JOSE RIZAL in the 19th century who also noted the cultural degradation as compared to other colonized states in Southeast Asia). Fortunately, a renaissance about our past is having a resurgence.

Our ancestors are well-respected for their valor and sought after as mercenaries by various Kingdoms in Southeast Asia. The Siamese, the Acehnese, the Burmese, the Malaccans, even the Cambodians ask for assistance in the defense of their states, or in their securing of their strategic interests in the Geopolitics in the region. We even supplied the Japanese with arqubuses and cannons made in Mainila during Prehispanic times. http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4395972
Our ancestors were all over maritime southeast asia, getting sandalwood from East Timor, having trading outposts in Malacca with one in particular Surya Diraja supplying tons of pepper to China and another relative had a rank only lower to the Sultan of Malacca himself acting as temenggong diraja or Chief of Customs and Police Chief all rolled into one.

These might change most people's point of view that the Pre colonial Philippines is like a No Man's Land in the middle of the ocean with no trade contacts with its neighbors and that we owe to our colonizers our culture and civilization:
A)
Map of Spice Routes or Maritime Silk route as verified by UNESCO:

http://www.maritimeheritage.org/ports/philippines.html

B)

The Laguna Coppeplate Inscription http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laguna_Copperplate_Inscription is the oldest historical document in the Philippines that dates back to 922 AD and written in ancient Kavi and in a language of mixed Old Malay, Old Tagalog, Sanskrit and Old Javanese. This document records that the ruler of Tondo, Jayadewa, carried the Hindu title Senapati or military commander and acted as supreme judge of all the lords of the nearby settlements. Among the counted allies mentioned in the document includes the Hindu Kingdom of Mataram in MEDANG, JAVA. The KING/CHIEF OF MEDANG IN JAVA was acting as a representative of the KING/CHIEF OF DEWATA OR DIWATA IN BUTUAN

C)Gold of Ancestors and the Philippines' Hindu Past
Forgotten Philippines: Gold Of Ancestors 1 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIwuvg_VnU

Forgotten Philippines: Gold Of Ancestors 1 Part 2 : THE SACRED THREAD AND THE KINARI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYtBVHrCK5w






An interesting ramification presented by above video link if one will reflect the status of the owner of the Sacred Thread...

which is similar to the Boxer codex
... is the owner a Sovereign of such a High Status, which will intimidate various rulers of other kingdoms in Southeast Asia if they would be standing side by side by each other. A ruler wearing a golden Sash or UPAVITA would intimidate or humiliate any Majapahit and Srivijayan royalties from neighboring kingdoms. Imagine a Golden Rajah with his Gold warriours would surely outclass any royals and warriors. Is the owner of that Golden Sacred thread a Srivijayan? Remember the other Golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules. jk

The maritime thalossocracy or alliance of rajanates called by the early Chinese as Sanfotsi and by the early Arabs as Zabag which Coedes collectively called Srivijayas stemming from a Kedukan bukit inscription found near Palembang was said to have a powerful competitor in the south called Wakwak by the early Arabs or Toupo by the early chinese. Is the Butuan-Toubok(Cotobato)area fits the bill for the powerful competitior of Sanfotsi-Zabag? The Tausugs of the Sulu Sultanate were said to be originally Bisayan migrants from Butuan. The Surigao Treasures billed as Gold of Ancestors is in the area of GOLD RICH BUTUAN.

A sword hilt from the Surigao Treasure


http://www.quezon.ph/2008/05/19/our-society-looking-back/

Philippine gold artifacts in general tend to be more elaborate and better crafted than most from West Borneo.

Harrisson looked at the Dr Arturo de Santos collection (part of which was acquired by the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas) as well, and observed that “…the range of Philippine gold jewelry…includes many pieces of a complexity and finesse that is beyond anything attempted in Borneo” in so far as what had been found at that time (Harrisson 1968: 56).

Throughout Indonesia there was a relationship between gold artifacts and the ruling aristocracy, in the class-power centers which developed on the coastal plains around the middle of the 1st millenium AD (Harrisson 1968:44). Precious metals were worked ‘exclusively in those areas where the influence of Hinduism was strongest’: he includes Java, Bali, southern Celebes and the coastal districts of Borneo. These areas developed as centers with established hierarchies, which necessitated the conspicuous display of wealth (Harrisson 1968: 47).

There was a demand for gold, which the Philippines could have supplied. It would be reasonable to suggest that one of the main sources of Javanese and Bornean gold was the Philippines. That trade would have been important enough to have been direct, by-passing minor pass-on players say, in Sarawak or Sulawesi. Moreover, the early interest in gold from the Philippines would have been in the raw material rather than wrought artifacts. In turn, local interest would have been on goods not made of gold, which they had plenty of.

http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-m...#comment-104413

quotes Alcina, a Jesuit writing about a hundred years after Legaspi, the conquistadores of the Philippines in the 16th century:
“I do remember that once when I was solemnizing a marriage of a Bisayan principala, she was so weighed down with jewelry that it caused her to stoop — to me it was close to an arroba or so (1 arroba = 25 lbs.), which was a lot of weight for a girl of twelve. Then again, I also heard it said that her grandfather had a jar full of gold which alone weighed five or six arrobas. Even this much is little in comparison to what they actually had in ancient times.”

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link: http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-m...#comment-105021
The crafters of Surigao treasures were most probably Hindu Bisayans, if not, their allies. The Rajanate of Butuan had alliance with the Rajanate of Cebu. Intermarriages of the royals between the two rajanates were common. And so the comment of pupuplatter that the Hindu-Animists Cebuanos would probably raid their allies, their Hindu-Animists brethren in Butuan, is most probably incorrect. While, the Tausug Muslims of Sulu were originally Hindu-animists Bisayans from Butuan having been proselytized by the Bruneians. And the Tausugs indeed raided their pacified Bisayan brothers only during the time of the Spanish colonial perod as they became Muslim while the latter became Christians.

King Humabon of Cebu, King Siaiu of Mazaua, and King Colambu of Butuan were blood kins accdg to the history books.
source: http://www.cebuasia.com/2008/01/29/butuano...ebu-and-mazaua/
D)Southeast Asia Geopolitics

Controlling the Straits of Malacca

As evidenced by history, the country that succeeded in controlling the narrow strait between the Malay Peninsula and the island of Sumatra would gain complete control of China's maritime silk route and thus become a thalossocracy - a trading empire. The Srivijaya of South Sumatra did so in 670 AD, the Chola of Southeast India in 1026 AD, the Madjapahit of Java in 1343 AD, the Sultanate of Malacca in 1400 AD, and finally the Portuguese in 1512 AD.*17

When the Portuguese arrived in Southeast Asia in 1500 AD, they witnessed LUZON's active involvement in the political and economic affairs of those who sought to take control of this economically strategic highway. For instance, the former SULTAN OF MALACCA decided to retake his city from the Portuguese with a fleet of ships from LUZON in 1525 AD.*18 In 1529 AD, the Sultanate of Atjeh on the northern tip of Sumatra became powerful enough to consider controlling the Straits of Malacca. LUZON ships formed part of the Atjehnese fleet that attacked key settlements along the straits. At the same time, LUZON warriors formed part of the opposing BATAK-MENANGKABAU army that besieged Atjeh or ACEH.*19 On the mainland, LUZON warriors aided the BURMESE KING in his invasion of SIAM in 1547 AD. At the same time, LUZON warriors fought alongside the KING OF THAILAND and faced the same elephant army of the Burmese king in the defence of the Siamese capital at Ayuthaya.*20

The Portuguese were not only witnesses but also direct beneficiaries of LUZON's involvement. Many Lucoes, as the Portuguese called the people of LUZON, chose MALACCA as their base of operations because of its strategic importance. When the Portuguese finally took the MALACCA in 1512 AD, the resident Lucoes held important government posts in the former sultanate. They were also large-scale exporters and ship owners that regularly sent junks to China, Brunei, Sumatra, Siam and Sunda. One LUZON official by the name of SURYA DIRAJA annually sent 175 tons of pepper to China and had to pay the Portuguese 9000 cruzados in gold to retain his plantation. His ships became part of the first Portuguese fleet that paid an official visit to the Chinese empire in 1517 AD.

In 1591 AD, the CAMBODIAN KING Phra Unkar Langara sent a gift of two royal elephants, gems and horses to the lords of LUZON to petition them to aid him in the war against SIAM.

E)Trade Missions to China (source: http://nippihistory.hp.infoseek.co.jp/lusunghis-e.htm )

The name Lusung(LUZON) first appeared in Chinese History in 1373 AD in the Ming Annals. In this document, Lusung was one of the first to answer the call for tribute missions to the new Ming Dynasty [1368 - 1644]. It was Brunei who first responded in 1371 AD, followed by Liuchiu in 1372, and then by Lusung in 1373 AD*11.

Despite the fact that it made its first appearance on Chinese records as late as 1373 AD, evidences suggests that the Chinese had long known the existence of LUZON as far back as the Sung Dynasty[960 - 1278 AD]. The presence of thousands of recognisable pieces of Sung and Yuan Dynasty porcelains found in ancient burial sites in the Province of Pampanga and Manila suggests an active trade with China long before the Ming period.

In the mid-1400s, the Ming Empire further limited the number of tribute missions from overseas when it did not compensate the cost of maintaining foreign embassies and entertaining foreign envoys. In 1550 AD, the Ming Empire finally put an end to overseas trade altogether.

The Ming Empire's ban on overseas trade ironically became a blessing to LUZON. The port cities in Fujian and Canton that had been profiting from overseas trade since the Sung Dynasty cannot simply end its trade relations with Southeast Asia just because the central government in Beijing does not see profit from it. Chinese ships from Fujian and Canton continue to smuggle goods out of China. They chose the port cities of Tondo and Mainila in LUZON as a drop off point. Ships from other parts of Asia, mostly Brunei and Malacca would then sail to LUZON to pick up their percentage of the Chinese goods.

I looked into the BUTUAN archealogical site, recognized by UNESCO as a world heritage site. I was impressed to learn that they not only had advanced boat making and gold crafting skills, but also traded with countries as far away as Persia.



http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/2071/

Satements of authenticity and/or integrity

The finds were authenticated by the National Museum, and deeper studies by reputable archaeologists were subsequently done. The oldest Chinese ceramic ware found in Butuan were the Yueh and Yueh type ware which dated back to the Five Dynasties (A.D. 907- 960). In a quantitative survey of the ceramics discovered in Butuan, there were representative types from various Asian realms, ranked according to volume: Chinese (10th - 15th centuries A.D.); Khmer/ Cambodian (9th-10th centuries A.D.); Thai (14th - 15th centuries A.D.) pre-Thai Satingpra (900-1100 A.D.); Haripunjaya (800-900 A.D.); pre-trade Vietnamese (11th - 13th centuries A.D.), and PERSIAN (9th - 10th centuries A.D.)

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the evidence of an advanced civilized Philippine society was suppressed and destroyed while we were conquered by Spain.

More about Prehispanic Philippines in this thread... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415024

More about Gold of Ancestors here... http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=217224

This post has been edited by trismegistos: Jan 4 2010, 02:04 AM

[matigasngulo]

neighbors are also thinking about shedding their old name

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=220807

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=220137

After the attempt to create a fascist Euro-centric world government failed spectacularly in Copenhagen, the main battlefield in the ongoing financial World War 3 moved to the Philippines. We will report the details of these intrigues below.

First let us re-cap the New World Order moves towards a fascistic world government in 2009. It started with the inauguration of Barack Obama as president. At first everybody was hopeful but, it did not take long for the truth to sink in. Obama was a Nazi puppet who broke all his important promises and refused to withdraw from Iraq, failed to close the Guantanamo torture camp and actually increased the amount of troops in Afghanistan. Later, he attempted to make himself de-facto world President by taking the post of head of the UN Security council, in direct violation of the US constitution. To bolster his position he was given the Nobel “peace” prize.

Meanwhile a Soviet style totalitarian government was imposed upon the people of Europe via the Treaty of Lisbon. A European “President” was then selected without any popular vote.

The final move was supposed to have taken place at the Copenhagen “global warming” summit. The European fascists were hoping to install a global totalitarian government by stealth under the cover of the bogus CO2 reduction campaign.

However, the Black Dragon Society was able to quash this campaign on several fronts. First of all, Russian BDS members hacked the East Anglia University computers and proved the “global warming” campaign was based on false data. Then BDS members in Washington froze an attempt by the Japanese emperor to provide over $100 billion for the cabal to hand over to developing nations in exchange for their acceding to a world government. When the fascists showed up empty handed, they were told to buzz off by the rest of the world.

In the meantime, the Federal Reserve Board and the Bank of England are facing a January deadline to come up with gold to pay their overdue debts to China.

In order to get this gold and keep their privately owned money printing monopoly going, a senior Federal Reserve Board agent in Japan, who we will refer to as Mr. K, went to the Philippines with a high-powered Japanese government delegation led by ruling Democratic Party of Japan number 2 Hajime Ishii. Ostensibly, the purpose of the visit was to play golf and meet with assorted Philippino law-makers.

However, the real purpose was to cash $250 billion worth of 1930’s vintage US government bonds that are backed by Chinese Imperial gold stashed in the Philippines. Their hope is to cash these bonds and use the money to bribe developing countries into accepting the Copenhagen formula for European-led global fascistic government. The Japanese politicians accompanying Mr. K were almost certainly unaware of this secret agenda.

However, the Black Dragon Society also had a delegation in the Philippines with a very different agenda. Their delegation went to a lake near Manila that is the second largest lake in South East Asia. Local officials informed them that Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands (an arch-Nazi) and her Philippino cronies were attempting to have the lake declared dead so that they could drain it and reclaim the land. Needless to say such a move would benefit a few billionaire developers at the expense of the millions of poor people living near the lake.

The society members instead promised to restore the lake to its pristine natural condition. They propose to do this by setting up sewage treatment facilities in order to treat the human waste that is responsible for 70% of the ecological damage to the lake. The society also proposed using Tesla technology involving sending out energy pulses of a specific frequency that kills harmful bacteria. In addition, they propose to use zeolite mined in the Philippines to neutralize toxins that are already in the lake.

The idea was to use the lake as an example to show a fundamental change in how Western Civilization interacts with the planet and its people. It would be used to initiate similar campaigns throughout the planet.

The Black Dragon Society plan for a new financial system was also explained. As we have mentioned before about 90% of all the dollars ever created are not owned by Americans. If these dollars become worthless paper then mass starvation and suffering is almost certain. That is why the BDS proposes to erase all fraudulently created dollars from the books and then back the remaining dollars with gold. The dollar would then be renamed and put under government control. The control would be shared between a new UN based in Laos, a China dominated World Bank based in Hong Kong and a G8 dominated world Economic Planning Agency based in Osaka or Singapore.

The Democratic Party of Japan delegates were very supportive of these proposals. They also expressed strong interest in the proposals for a new financial system controlled by governments instead of a small in-bred elite. However, the trip also helped reveal the real nature of the new “Democratic” Party of Japan. The BDS delegate approached Mr. Ishii, the supposed number 2 in the Japanese government and explained to him that the Yakuza and the Japanese right-wingers wanted to cut off their ties with the Federal Reserve Board crime gang and start to work for the Japanese government. Mr. Ishii’s answer was “you need to talk to Mr. K about that.”

Mr. K (we are keeping his name secret for now in the hope that he will join forces with the Black Dragons) had some very revealing things to say to us. He first approached the BDS when two Japanese agents were arrested in Italy in June carrying $134.5 billion worth of US government bonds. He said, “I guess we will have to work together now.”

He then explained how up until now “Three or four people ruled the country by brainwashing the rest.” The Federal Reserve Board had offered to hand over control of Japan to China by 2011, he said. “As long as me and my wife can live well, I guess that is OK,” he added.

Mr. K is obviously a second-tier power broker who blows with the wind. When the wind started to blow from China instead of the US, he quickly offered his services to China.

What he and other members of the Japanese secret establishment have revealed to us is a high-powered Federal Reserve Board campaign run out of Taiwan, Japan and China. Japanese gangsters and power-brokers go to either Taiwan or China where they receive massive bribes in order to go along with plans for a China led world dictatorship.

One of the key figures in this scheme is Democratic Party of Japan power-broker Ichiro Ozawa. Ozawa only tells his inner thoughts to 2 or 3 people he really trusts, according to a close friend and others.

The fear in Japan is that if the DPJ wins an absolute majority in the upper house elections due this summer, Ozawa will install a totalitarian dictatorship. Ozawa appears to be firmly in the Chinese camp but, things are not always as they appear. This was made obvious by the secret attempt on the part of Mr. K to cash the $250 billion on behalf of the Federal Reserve Board even though he supposedly gets his marching orders from Taiwan.

Black Dragon Society members in Washington have obtained an extensive list of Japanese politicians and gangsters who have been receiving large bribes in Taiwan and China that can ultimately be traced to the Federal Reserve Board. We may make this list public at a future date.

In any case, the story of Mr. K reveals how a person who has never been elected to any public office, who never passed a public service exam and who keeps his name secret is above in rank to the so-called number 2 in the Japanese government.

In the US, of course, a similar structure exists with people like James Baker, Frank Carlucci, George Bush Senior, Paul Wolfowitz, Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, J. Rockefeller etc. having more power than elected officials. In Europe the equivalent role is played by Royal Families and the various branches of the Rothschild dynasty.

Although a majority of people in the Western world and in Japan remain thoroughly brainwashed, a critical mass among the intellectual elite has figured out the fraudulent and unfair nature of this system. That means the system is now doomed.

The owners of the Federal Reserve Board have bought time since they were cut off from new funding at the end of September by selling military secrets, looting everything they can get their hands on in North America and via their world wide drug dealing operations.

However, without the gold in the Philippines, they are running out of time. International law enforcement officials from Interpol have now been given legal jurisdiction in the US. They are busy hunting down and arresting corrupt bankers.

A similar purge is underway in Europe.

Even if the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate gets their hands on the gold in the Philippines, if the Chinese continue pandering to these mass murderers, they will lose the goodwill they have earned over the past two years by standing up to them. That means the gold will remain worthless “black gold” unredeemable for cash as long as it is owned by the Federal Reserve Board.

What the greedy bankers did not realize during their maneuvers in the Philippines is that you cannot eat gold. The sewer water that can be recycled from around the Philippine lake can be turned into fertilizer and therefore into food. You need food to survive. That means the Black Dragon Society members who walked through filthy mud in bare feet in an effort to help poor Philippinos were standing on the true treasure.

In any case, there are many signs of a big show-down in January. There are several important settlement dates in January where the Feds are likely to bounce a check.

The Japanese government, for its part, has been steadily buying up all Japanese government bonds owned by foreigners. That means they may be preparing for a debt jubilee in Japan.

Meanwhile, over 600 foreign IT experts, law enforcement officials, politicians etc. have descended on Washington D.C. They may well be preparing to reboot the dollar system minus toxic derivatives.

We also have a steady flow of truth from the British media, including a BBC documentary stating that Al Qaeda is a fiction. This indicates the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate is becoming isolated even within the Anglo Saxon world.

Finally, Israel has recalled all of its ambassadors from around the world in a sign it clearly expects something big to happen.

It may well be that events predicted for 2012 could start in 2010. Next week, we will try to predict what will happen in what is most certainly expected to be a most turbulent and exciting new year. Our best guess for now is that a system of government that has lasted for literally thousands of years is about to end. Humanity may finally be free of a cruel system based on debt slavery forever.

LOL on the´other hand, i learned a thing or two about the "Black Dragon Society" (now only 50 million ninjas strong ROFL) and Ikki Kita the past weeks.

This post has been edited by matigasngulo: Jan 4 2010, 06:50 PM

[higaynon]

The Copenhagen talks on combating so-called “global warming” ended in failure last week, marking a bitter defeat for the fascist globalist cabal. The failure became inevitable after a secret financial operation was quashed in Washington last week, depriving the globalists of any cash to hand out to poor countries in order to get their agreement.

The operation last week involved a top level operative reporting to the Chinese politburo, George Soros, Al Gore, the Japanese emperor (operating under instructions from Senator J. Rockefeller) and Japanese power broker Ichiro Ozawa. They were hoping to cash bonds issued by the Federal Reserve Board in the 1930’s that were backed with Chinese imperial gold. The money was then going to be used to promise $100 billion in bribes to poor countries in order to get them to go along with the creation of a fascist world government. A top Chinese government official was also promised the job of secret world emperor. Japanese power broker Ichiro Ozawa led a 600-person delegation to China last week as a part of this operation.

The operation was stopped by a secret but very powerful group known as the Black Dragon Society. This group is capable of mobilizing the British Empire, the Vatican, many of the oil producing states, at least half of the Pentagon, the Japanese military/police establishment and the over 50 million people studying martial arts worldwide. It was their allies in the US who froze the funds the Emperor was supposed to release.

Further attacks against the globalist fascists seen during the past week include the announcement by the Gulf Oil Producing states that they will no longer trade oil in dollars. Dubai, for its part, has cut off its ties with the globalists and is now suing Citibank for tens of billions of dollars. Most of the South American nations have also now renounced the use of US dollars for regional trade.

The Chinese have, for their part, made an end run around the US dollar by buying up all the physical commodities in the world. They are now in a position, if they desire, to triple the prices Western countries pay for their raw materials. They are unlikely to do this, of course, because that would amount to a declaration of war against the militarily more powerful Western powers.

Pentagon war-gaming scenarios call for the US Navy to blockade the Persian Gulf while the US army seizes Mexican and Venezuelan oil fields if a blockade is declared against the US.

The Russians, for their part, are contemplating forming a Western Alliance ranging from Vladivostock to Vancouver but not including the Nazi US regime. They are allied with the Chinese in the Shanghai Cooperation agreement but they view this as a marriage of convenience designed to counter-act the Nazi US threat. They still have a visceral, historical fear of the “yellow-peril,” meaning the Chinese would be foolish to overplay their hand.

The BDS has put a counter-proposal on the table. They promise to erase from the financial system all the dollars (running literally into the quintillions) created fraudulently by the Federal Reserve Board since the Greenspan/Clinton years. They will then back the remaining dollars with gold. Once this is done an intensive 3-year campaign to end poverty and stop environmental destruction will be financed.

As a part of this, a top level Japanese delegation led by Hajime Ishii, the number 2 in the Japanese government, will be visiting a site in the Philippines containing gold hoards and discussing the 3-year campaign plans with BDS representatives.

The BDS plan involves firstly an emergency global mobilization to immediately provide adequate nutrition to the 1 billion mal-nourished and starving people on this planet. They will also finance a 2-year stand-down of the world’s deep ocean fishing fleets in order to allow the oceans to replenish. This will be accompanied by efforts to seed the dead parts of the oceans with nutrients in order to vastly increase fish numbers.

The British Empire will form an alliance with the Gulf Oil Kingdoms to use previously suppressed energy technology to remove salt from sea-water and turn the deserts green. The alliance between the Gulf Oil Kingdoms and the British Empire may ultimately involve some sort of marriage based coalition. This may be followed by the alliance of Protestant Christianity with moderate Sufi Islam.

The Vatican, for its part, will mount their own campaign using their own free energy technology to end poverty and turn deserts green. They will also try to deepen their ties with Asia to counter-act what they see as a growing Islamist threat to Christianity.

The BDS allies in the US, meanwhile, plan to return the US to constitutional rule and begin a swords-to-ploughshares transition of the Pentagon. The Philippines gold will be used to write-off US external debts and finance a reconstruction of the US industrial base. The Pentagon will begin allowing the wide-spread civilian use of Stirling engines and other high-technology previously kept from the public for “security reasons.”

The Japanese, for their part, will begin introducing their own suppressed technology in an orderly manner designed to make sure there is minimal social disruption as the oil and nuclear power industries are phased out. They will also be re-integrating the Yakuza and right-wing gangs by converting them into a Japanese version of the CIA/FBI. They will be setting up a massive new martial arts university to act as their headquarters.

In any case, the Black Dragon Society has been contacted during the last week by the Yakuza, the British Royal Family, the KGB, the Vatican, the Pentagon and others in the run-up to the trip to the Philippine gold fields.

The transition away from the post-World War 2 power structure will probably take about 3-years to complete. However, there could be major announcements as early as January. We will report back from our Philippine trip next week

Link here

[matigasngulo]

i'm a great fan of Benjamin BS-Ford

Two blue moons in a row,one New Year’s Eve in the West and one on New Year’s day in the East

On December 21st 2009, a group of shamans held a ceremony by a lake in the Philippines. Whatever the case, there was heavy rain and thick cloud cover as the group headed to the lake for a ceremony to mark a change in how Western civilization behaves. When we arrived at the lake suddenly an area of blue sky appeared immediately above us. All around there was still heavy cloud cover and rain. However, directly over our heads, in the middle of the circle of blue sky there was a new moon. Then on New Year’s Eve, the world experienced an unheralded but precious event, a blue moon on New Year’s eve in the West and a second blue moon on New Year’s Day in Asia. A blue moon means a second full moon in one month. A full moon on New Year’s Eve happens only once in every two decades or so. Two blue moons in a row at the turn of the decade and the year has probably not happened for centuries or longer. Thus, although I have been trained in science and skepticism, I believe we have had a very auspicious beginning to 2010, the Year of the Tiger.

Furthermore, multiple reliable sources both in Asia and the West are reporting major happy changes happening soon, possibly this week or this month. We are more hopeful than we have been in a long time but, we will believe it when we see it.

[trismegistos]

more like it was hijacked...

care to elaborate. you seem afraid to disclose something? afraid to be branded as a looney lol

there are many versions of santa romana:
- a priest
- a fil-am
- an agent of vatican
- an OSS agent
- a triple agent
- caretaker of Sultanate of Sulu's wealth
seems santa romana was a jack of all trades and ergo, more intelligent and wise than marcos

another version, it's marcos who had the maps of the various sites, and he was the one who recovered the so called treasure and now attributed to santa romana
-more plausible

This post has been edited by trismegistos: Jan 7 2010, 03:47 AM

[matigasngulo]

LOL "all of the above"

by hijacked i meant that the ABLs or whatever they are called are being put in the service of somebody else again....

[guruwise]

Our maoist journalist Lindsay's and the linguist Bellwood's theory of Out of Taiwan is already been debunked by various geneticists.

Who said we are trying to change nationality here.

As for the renaming of the Philippines, a Colonial name, it sounds like to mediocre minds with materialist atheistic philosophy that renaming of a country have no effect in the consciousness of the people. But to masons, mystics, visionaries, wise sages, wiccans, theosophists, yogis, those who are in the esoteric circles and those into the metaphysics have all along know about the power of the Name since ancient times. In fact, in the bible it is everywhere about the power of Name and the power of Decreeing. Yogis called it Mantras or tantras, the occidental magicians called it caballah, etc. Everything that exist in the universe has names. Name carry an energetic vibration. Everything in the Universe is connected. Everything is Energy. With the naming of the people of the colonial country called the Philippines to Filipinos, became the start of the bastardation and the FLIPINIZATION of the Philippines as the SICKMAN OF ASIA.

MAHARLIKA IS A NOBLE NAME OF A REPLACEMENT TO A COLONIAL NAME.

You must have problem comprehending or something. There is a big difference between claiming what was not ours and reclaiming what is really ours. And I am referring for the latter. You need to study our precolonial past, that the Indonesians, Malaysians, and the Flipinoys were under Unity in Diversity.

What's wrong reconnecting to our distant precolonial past. Better to try to emulate Rizal's footsteps who researched history and found out about our glorious precolonial past(We were trading aboard large vessels called dyong or Junks with our neighbors)of which the colonizers were trying to suppress.




Since changing the Philippines name will require some time why don't you reconnect with your Austronesian roots by changing your own name first and maybe you can name your kids some ami name as well. But we all know that will NEVER happen.



The proselytization by the Spaniards and the banning of trading/seafaring ways, and the banning of the carrying of arms finally made the islanders pacified and ISOLATED from their other Malay brethren(Spaniards only sanctioned the official Galleon trade for their profit as well as some mestizos'). The Spaniards were guilty also of cultural extinction, now we've forgotten our past, our connections with our Southeast Asian brothers and made our people INDOLENT(noticed by French and Austrian observers and even by JOSE RIZAL in the 19th century who also noted the cultural degradation as compared to other colonized states in Southeast Asia). Fortunately, a renaissance about our past is having a resurgence.

Our ancestors are well-respected for their valor and sought after as mercenaries by various Kingdoms in Southeast Asia. The Siamese, the Acehnese, the Burmese, the Malaccans, even the Cambodians ask for assistance in the defense of their states, or in their securing of their strategic interests in the Geopolitics in the region. We even supplied the Japanese with arqubuses and cannons made in Mainila during Prehispanic times. http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4395972
Our ancestors were all over maritime southeast asia, getting sandalwood from East Timor, having trading outposts in Malacca with one in particular Surya Diraja supplying tons of pepper to China and another relative had a rank only lower to the Sultan of Malacca himself acting as temenggong diraja or Chief of Customs and Police Chief all rolled into one.

These might change most people's point of view that the Pre colonial Philippines is like a No Man's Land in the middle of the ocean with no trade contacts with its neighbors and that we owe to our colonizers our culture and civilization:
A)
Map of Spice Routes or Maritime Silk route as verified by UNESCO:

http://www.maritimeheritage.org/ports/philippines.html

B)

The Laguna Coppeplate Inscription http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laguna_Copperplate_Inscription is the oldest historical document in the Philippines that dates back to 922 AD and written in ancient Kavi and in a language of mixed Old Malay, Old Tagalog, Sanskrit and Old Javanese. This document records that the ruler of Tondo, Jayadewa, carried the Hindu title Senapati or military commander and acted as supreme judge of all the lords of the nearby settlements. Among the counted allies mentioned in the document includes the Hindu Kingdom of Mataram in MEDANG, JAVA. The KING/CHIEF OF MEDANG IN JAVA was acting as a representative of the KING/CHIEF OF DEWATA OR DIWATA IN BUTUAN

C)Gold of Ancestors and the Philippines' Hindu Past
Forgotten Philippines: Gold Of Ancestors 1 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIwuvg_VnU

Forgotten Philippines: Gold Of Ancestors 1 Part 2 : THE SACRED THREAD AND THE KINARI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYtBVHrCK5w






An interesting ramification presented by above video link if one will reflect the status of the owner of the Sacred Thread...

which is similar to the Boxer codex
... is the owner a Sovereign of such a High Status, which will intimidate various rulers of other kingdoms in Southeast Asia if they would be standing side by side by each other. A ruler wearing a golden Sash or UPAVITA would intimidate or humiliate any Majapahit and Srivijayan royalties from neighboring kingdoms. Imagine a Golden Rajah with his Gold warriours would surely outclass any royals and warriors. Is the owner of that Golden Sacred thread a Srivijayan? Remember the other Golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules. jk

The maritime thalossocracy or alliance of rajanates called by the early Chinese as Sanfotsi and by the early Arabs as Zabag which Coedes collectively called Srivijayas stemming from a Kedukan bukit inscription found near Palembang was said to have a powerful competitor in the south called Wakwak by the early Arabs or Toupo by the early chinese. Is the Butuan-Toubok(Cotobato)area fits the bill for the powerful competitior of Sanfotsi-Zabag? The Tausugs of the Sulu Sultanate were said to be originally Bisayan migrants from Butuan. The Surigao Treasures billed as Gold of Ancestors is in the area of GOLD RICH BUTUAN.

A sword hilt from the Surigao Treasure


http://www.quezon.ph/2008/05/19/our-society-looking-back/


http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-m...#comment-104413



--------------------------
link: http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-m...#comment-105021
The crafters of Surigao treasures were most probably Hindu Bisayans, if not, their allies. The Rajanate of Butuan had alliance with the Rajanate of Cebu. Intermarriages of the royals between the two rajanates were common. And so the comment of pupuplatter that the Hindu-Animists Cebuanos would probably raid their allies, their Hindu-Animists brethren in Butuan, is most probably incorrect. While, the Tausug Muslims of Sulu were originally Hindu-animists Bisayans from Butuan having been proselytized by the Bruneians. And the Tausugs indeed raided their pacified Bisayan brothers only during the time of the Spanish colonial perod as they became Muslim while the latter became Christians.

King Humabon of Cebu, King Siaiu of Mazaua, and King Colambu of Butuan were blood kins accdg to the history books.
source: http://www.cebuasia.com/2008/01/29/butuano...ebu-and-mazaua/
D)Southeast Asia Geopolitics


E)Trade Missions to China (source: http://nippihistory.hp.infoseek.co.jp/lusunghis-e.htm )


I looked into the BUTUAN archealogical site, recognized by UNESCO as a world heritage site. I was impressed to learn that they not only had advanced boat making and gold crafting skills, but also traded with countries as far away as Persia.



http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/2071/


I wouldn't be surprised if most of the evidence of an advanced civilized Philippine society was suppressed and destroyed while we were conquered by Spain.

More about Prehispanic Philippines in this thread... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415024

More about Gold of Ancestors here... http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=217224

[trismegistos]

Since changing the Philippines name will require some time why don't you reconnect with your Austronesian roots by changing your own name first and maybe you can name your kids some ami name as well. But we all know that will NEVER happen.

Ami names. lol
Tell that to salamat - wala - LDS
As for the name change. It WILL HAPPEN. Nothing is permanent in this world. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.
As what name it will be, if the elites that we have are as colonial minded as some of us, it might be a chinese name. And so from a Spanish name, then Americanization of that, graduating into a Sinification of that.

Someone has been trolling that we are Amis. And now all the achievements attributed to our Austronesian or Austric forefathers, like exceptional navigational and boat building skills, spread of various domesticated plants and animals, building of rice terraces, expansion from as far west as Madagascar to as far east as Easter Island are now attributed to these Taiwanese aborigenes. Even the Zabag empire aka Srivijayan empire circa 7th -13th century AD is even attributed by Lindsay to the Amis for crying out loud. This is clear deception, somebody is manipulating the date of the theoretical coming of the Amis in order to credit to the Amis the building of the Rice terraces in the Cordilleras. It is clear that Bellwood and Lindsay said the theoretical coming of the Amis as 2,000 years ago in their Out of Taiwan theory. And now it has metamorphosized into 3,000 years ago lol. Well, the rice terraces complex was actually started 6,000 years ago he he. While the Sumerians were building cities at the same time period, our ancestors were already planting rice and building megalithic structures called rice terraces which far surpass the technological wonder called the Great Pyramid of Giza in terms of volume. Go change the time frame to bolster our Ami pride he he. And since they're still at it, why not change our nationality to Taiwanese. lol

Circa 7,000- 10,000 years ago, when there were still no Han Chinese, Amis, and Malays, our agriculture and seafaring-savy ancestors, the "New Asians"(in order to distinguish them from the "Old Asian" australoids like the Ainus and the Andamese negritos), these ancestors of all East Asians(Sinodonts) and Southeast Asians(Sundadonts) migrated from their Sundaland Homeland because of the onslaught of the catastrophic rising of sea levels(end of last Ice Age) which could have killed lots of mankind and other hominids like the Homo erectus to extinction. Btw, the "Old Asians" were ancestral to or shared common ancestry with the "New Asians" in line with the Genetic Evidence of the Single Mitochondrial Eve of Africa. The Out of Taiwan theory can't explain why would the Austronesians expand to almost both sides of the Globe and this is not because of whim or conquistadores mentality of the Amis lol. One must reconcile with the Deluge of Biblical proportion to explain the migrations and the abandoning of their homeland.

It's crazy to say Han Chinese migrated to the Cordilleras and interbred with Ami people to built the Banaue rice terraces just because some people in the Cordilleras look Chinese. ha ha

The ethnocentric Maoist Lindsay has succeeded, not intentionally, I hope, in removing Austronesian pride and replace it with Ami pride. Where is now our Pinoy pride? Lindsay may be unintentionally have many people be confused and be far removed from nebulous distance to our Lost Core Identity.

I have reasons to believe as Prof. Oppenheimer suggested that the Sumerian civilization including the Ancient Egyptian Civilization, the Indus valley Civilization or the Hindu civilization were seeded from the migrants coming from the inundation of Sundaland(also known to us, seekers, as Mu). Oannes, a mythical deity, who was symbolically represented as Half bearded man and Half Fish, who was said to have given civilization to mankind, was said to come from subterranean sunken realms, an allusion to the Sunken Sundaland. There were comparative linguistic studies on the similarities between Austronesian/Austric words with Sumerian.

Innana the Sumerian goddess is similar sounding to the Austronesian word for mother, Ina. It's interesting that the Assyrian counterpart was called Ishtar. While our Austronesian forefathers worshipped a goddess of mariners named Tara which became in our vernacular as Tala as in the female equivalent of Ba-Tala or Bathala. And so iShTAR became Tara or Tala, which is also our word for Star.

Mu Civilization of Sundaland(Southeast Asia) thus antedated even Sumerian civilization, which presently is the earliest civilization accdg to our orthodox textbooks. Agriculture and domestication of animals started in these environ of Biodiversity in Southeast Asia. Oppenheimer called this civilization in sundaland as the Eden in the East. Oppenheimer opined that western civilization as we know it is greatly indebted to this motherland. Many mystics are all in agreement that in the next golden age, the same area, this Primordial Eden, in Sundaland which includes our Blessed Isles will come in prominence as the New Jerusalem in the coming centuries.

This post has been edited by trismegistos: Jan 9 2010, 09:49 AM

[higaynon]

For the record of history
By ATTY. RENE ESPINA
January 9, 2010, 8:44pm

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/237746/for-record-history

Sunday, former First Lady Imelda Marcos issued a statement that she was not afraid that if the presidential candidate of the Liberal Party wins, he would run after the Marcoses “ill gotten wealth.” She further said that, “Noynoy can do all he wants in pursuit of the alleged wealth. I am not afraid. I don’t care.” She expressed confidence that the would-be probe on the controversial Marcos fortune would be a futile exercise. Aquino had earlier vowed that he would initiate his own probe on the Marcos wealth if he is elected president. Imelda answered that “Noynoy can do everything, but can he fight the truth?” She further said that “Noynoy can go after me but if in the US, I won the Rico case, how much more here?”

As a former Secretary General of the United Nationalist Democratic Organization (UNIDO), I am quite familiar with many details that remain unpublished. One is regarding the last effort of former President Ferdinand E. Marcos to create a foundation for the benefit of the Filipino people. On Feb 2, 1989, before PFM died, he called through Imelda VP Doy Laurel to see him in a Hawaiian hospital where the dying President was confined. He gave Doy Laurel a letter addressed to President Corazon Aquino proposing that 90 percent of all his assets worldwide would be given to a foundation in trust for the Filipino people. The Marcos family would only retain 10 percent of those assets. If memory serves, there would only be three members of the Board of Trustees: 1) A representative of the Catholic Church to be appointed by the Vatican; 2) A board member to be appointed by the Philippine government; 3) A third board member representing the Marcos family. At that time, the late Don Enrique Zobel’s name was mentioned. I do not wish to go further since the best evidence is the letter itself of PFM addressed to PCA.

Unfortunately, the messenger of that letter of PFM, i.e., VP Doy Laurel was never able or allowed to see the President in Malacañang. And obviously, nothing came out of it because it was rejected by the President herself and or her advisers. Here’s a direct quotation from President Marcos to Doy: “Please tell Mrs. Aquino to stop sending her relatives. They are proposing so many things, all I want is to die in my country. Tell her to let me come home. I will turn over 90 percent of all my worldly possessions to our people. I will ask only 10 percent for my family. That is much better than her relatives are proposing.”

(Doy Laurel): “I thought of the so-called hidden wealth in favor of the Filipino people on a 90-10 basis that could solve so many of our problems including our foreign debt. It could even unite our nation! Upon reaching Manila, I immediately asked for an appointment with Cory but she would not see me. Here, I was her Vice President asking only for three minutes of her time to deliver a very important message from her predecessor and she would not see me. I was told she was busy.” (See Pages 186-187 of the book Doy Laurel by Celia Diaz Laurel)

I say what a lost opportunity where billions of pesos would have benefited the Filipino people. Now, after about 22 years, where are the said Marcos assets? As some wise guys know, a portion of it went to “trusted cronies” who now claim that they own said properties. Others have been taken over by the new power brokers, cronies, etc., after the EDSA revolution. Are the failed decisions of the old “Laban” the same agenda to be pursued by the new “Laban” in the event that they go back to power? I hope not. You may send your comments and or suggestions to rene.espina@hotmail.com

....hmmm mababawi na ba? ano na kaya ang update?

[higaynon]

Di ba si Laurel din ang naghimok kay Villar para tumakbo sa pagka Predidente?

Di ba ipinagbili rin nila kay Villar ang kanilang ancestral home which is the Headquarters of Nacionalista Party sa ngayon?

And also... Si Villar at Bongbong Marcos ay magksama na rin?



Representative sa pamilya MAkoy: BongBong
Representative sa Government: Villar
Representative from Vatican : ???


Di kaya malapit na bumalik ang ninanakaw na pera ng MArcos at Simula na ng ating Phoenix Rise in Asia?

[martin_nuke]

Alam nila ang pin number ng gold deposits ni Ferdinand Marcos sa Switzerland?

This post has been edited by martin_nuke: Jan 11 2010, 11:45 PM

[azaz]

Does Noynoy know that he will not only deal with the Marcos umbrella but also with the well entrenched Diaz umbrella to recover any supposedly Marcos hidden wealth? The Philippine government has consciously neglected this matter for a very long time and even put it in the Myth Files. I hope there are still bits and and pieces to recover.

This post has been edited by azaz: Jan 14 2010, 08:14 PM

[higaynon]

As a former Secretary General of the United Nationalist Democratic Organization (UNIDO), I am quite familiar with many details that remain unpublished. One is regarding the last effort of former President Ferdinand E. Marcos to create a foundation for the benefit of the Filipino people. On Feb 2, 1989, before PFM died, he called through Imelda VP Doy Laurel to see him in a Hawaiian hospital where the dying President was confined. He gave Doy Laurel a letter addressed to President Corazon Aquino proposing that 90 percent of all his assets worldwide would be given to a foundation in trust for the Filipino people. The Marcos family would only retain 10 percent of those assets. If memory serves, there would only be three members of the Board of Trustees:

1) A representative of the Catholic Church to be appointed by the Vatican;

2) A board member to be appointed by the Philippine government;

3) A third board member representing the Marcos family. At that time, the late Don Enrique Zobel’s name was mentioned.

I do not wish to go further since the best evidence is the letter itself of PFM addressed to PCA.

Di ba si Laurel din ang naghimok kay Villar para tumakbo sa pagka Predidente?

Di ba ipinagbili rin nila kay Villar ang kanilang ancestral home which is the Headquarters of Nacionalista Party sa ngayon?

And also... Si Villar at Bongbong Marcos ay magksama na rin?



Representative sa pamilya Marcos: BongBong
Representative sa Government: Villar
Representative from Vatican : ???


Di kaya malapit na bumalik ang ninanakaw na pera ng MArcos at Simula na ng ating Phoenix Rise in Asia?

Ang pag sasama sama nila di kaya nagpapahiwatig na yan sa ngayon?

[Savan]

C)Gold of Ancestors and the Philippines' Hindu Past
Forgotten Philippines: Gold Of Ancestors 1 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIwuvg_VnU

Forgotten Philippines: Gold Of Ancestors 1 Part 2 : THE SACRED THREAD AND THE KINARI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYtBVHrCK5w






An interesting ramification presented by above video link if one will reflect the status of the owner of the Sacred Thread...

which is similar to the Boxer codex
... is the owner a Sovereign of such a High Status, which will intimidate various rulers of other kingdoms in Southeast Asia if they would be standing side by side by each other. A ruler wearing a golden Sash or UPAVITA would intimidate or humiliate any Majapahit and Srivijayan royalties from neighboring kingdoms. Imagine a Golden Rajah with his Gold warriours would surely outclass any royals and warriors. Is the owner of that Golden Sacred thread a Srivijayan? Remember the other Golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules. jk

The maritime thalossocracy or alliance of rajanates called by the early Chinese as Sanfotsi and by the early Arabs as Zabag which Coedes collectively called Srivijayas stemming from a Kedukan bukit inscription found near Palembang was said to have a powerful competitor in the south called Wakwak by the early Arabs or Toupo by the early chinese. Is the Butuan-Toubok(Cotobato)area fits the bill for the powerful competitior of Sanfotsi-Zabag? The Tausugs of the Sulu Sultanate were said to be originally Bisayan migrants from Butuan. The Surigao Treasures billed as Gold of Ancestors is in the area of GOLD RICH BUTUAN.

A sword hilt from the Surigao Treasure


http://www.quezon.ph/2008/05/19/our-society-looking-back/


http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-m...#comment-104413



--------------------------
link: http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-m...#comment-105021
The crafters of Surigao treasures were most probably Hindu Bisayans, if not, their allies. The Rajanate of Butuan had alliance with the Rajanate of Cebu. Intermarriages of the royals between the two rajanates were common. And so the comment of pupuplatter that the Hindu-Animists Cebuanos would probably raid their allies, their Hindu-Animists brethren in Butuan, is most probably incorrect. While, the Tausug Muslims of Sulu were originally Hindu-animists Bisayans from Butuan having been proselytized by the Bruneians. And the Tausugs indeed raided their pacified Bisayan brothers only during the time of the Spanish colonial perod as they became Muslim while the latter became Christians.

King Humabon of Cebu, King Siaiu of Mazaua, and King Colambu of Butuan were blood kins accdg to the history books.
source: http://www.cebuasia.com/2008/01/29/butuano...ebu-and-mazaua/
D)Southeast Asia Geopolitics


E)Trade Missions to China (source: http://nippihistory.hp.infoseek.co.jp/lusunghis-e.htm )


I looked into the BUTUAN archealogical site, recognized by UNESCO as a world heritage site. I was impressed to learn that they not only had advanced boat making and gold crafting skills, but also traded with countries as far away as Persia.



http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/2071/


I wouldn't be surprised if most of the evidence of an advanced civilized Philippine society was suppressed and destroyed while we were conquered by Spain.

More about Prehispanic Philippines in this thread... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415024

More about Gold of Ancestors here... http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=217224

Nice! Seeing all of that gold reminds me of Lao, Khmer, Thai, and Indonesian cultures. Modern Filipino culture looks very Spanish to me, so it's nice to know that Filipinos used to dress like other SEAs and adorned themselves in costumes made of gold.