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[zhengchenggong]

Why are Chinese successful in the Philippines, easy, it is all about culture.

China is one of the world's great civilizations and the most ancient surviving nation today. Its people have a rich history and identity. We know who we are. Also, Chinese culture stresses entrepreneurialism, hard work, and perseverence. The ability to "Chi Ku" or "Eat Bitter" meaning to sacrifice and struggle in order to make a better tomorrow.

China today is rising once more, and you can bet that the world of Western domination is coming to an end.

The reason why Filipinos do not operate in the same way is because they were colonized by the Spanish, have a weak national identity (why are Filipinos always arguing if they are Asians or Pacific Islanders? Or they say they have Spanish or Chinese blood?). Filipinos have an inferiority complex to the West, and constantly measure themselves to Western standards. Of course, they will always fall short, so they feel inferior and have largely accepted this. The Spanish also left behind a backward, corrupt and superstitious society, just like the ones in Latin America. The Philippines operates the same way, this is why it's going to be difficult for it to move forward.

[Suzuka00]

Why are Chinese successful in the Philippines, easy, it is all about culture.

China is one of the world's great civilizations and the most ancient surviving nation today. Its people have a rich history and identity. We know who we are. Also, Chinese culture stresses entrepreneurialism, hard work, and perseverence. The ability to "Chi Ku" or "Eat Bitter" meaning to sacrifice and struggle in order to make a better tomorrow.

China today is rising once more, and you can bet that the world of Western domination is coming to an end.

The reason why Filipinos do not operate in the same way is because they were colonized by the Spanish, have a weak national identity (why are Filipinos always arguing if they are Asians or Pacific Islanders? Or they say they have Spanish or Chinese blood?). Filipinos have an inferiority complex to the West, and constantly measure themselves to Western standards. Of course, they will always fall short, so they feel inferior and have largely accepted this. The Spanish also left behind a backward, corrupt and superstitious society, just like the ones in Latin America. The Philippines operates the same way, this is why it's going to be difficult for it to move forward.

That is my point the colonizers gave the inferiority complex and the divide and conquer scheme.

[*promo]

cant agrue with that, SEE OTHERS KNOW. WHY CONTINUE IN DENYING YOUR PROBLEMS BACK HOME, FOOLS.

This post has been edited by *promo: May 27 2009, 04:57 PM

[Suzuka00]

i havent heard that song in forever lol. very good!

you like Regine now..Don't you..

[martin_nuke]

Why are Chinese successful in the Philippines, easy, it is all about culture.

China is one of the world's great civilizations and the most ancient surviving nation today. Its people have a rich history and identity. We know who we are. Also, Chinese culture stresses entrepreneurialism, hard work, and perseverence. The ability to "Chi Ku" or "Eat Bitter" meaning to sacrifice and struggle in order to make a better tomorrow.

China today is rising once more, and you can bet that the world of Western domination is coming to an end.

The reason why Filipinos do not operate in the same way is because they were colonized by the Spanish, have a weak national identity (why are Filipinos always arguing if they are Asians or Pacific Islanders? Or they say they have Spanish or Chinese blood?). Filipinos have an inferiority complex to the West, and constantly measure themselves to Western standards. Of course, they will always fall short, so they feel inferior and have largely accepted this. The Spanish also left behind a backward, corrupt and superstitious society, just like the ones in Latin America. The Philippines operates the same way, this is why it's going to be difficult for it to move forward.

Nationalism can never exist in the Philippines because there are to many Ethnicities and Races in the Philippines which is like Brazil and I think China can never solve the problem of the Philippines for it is Marcos who started the problem because before the Marcos era, the Philippines was the richest and most technological advanced country in South East Asia. It was also Marcos who replaced the Spanish oligachs with Chinese oligachs by transfering their properties to them creating a cronie driven Marcos regime. If Marcos would only return the billions of dollar gold reserves which really belong to the Philippines, then this would be a big help.

The Philippines learned its lesson from history and it would not be decieved again. Remember the billion dollar ZTE deal where China was trying to buy out the Philippines the Filipinos reacted and it did the materialize.

This post has been edited by martin_nuke: May 27 2009, 06:42 PM

[alexandra]

Well the reason why the Chinese never destroy those villa, building, hospital,etc that the Europeon build is very simple. Is because what is the point. If you destroy it, you will need to build another one on top of it. If will cost you more money to destroy it and build another one that might not even be better. So they just kept it. Another reason is probably because the building is very nice.

A lot of things contributed to the fall of China. To the uprising, to the Europeon and you mixed that in with that damn Queen who spend all of the military money building her summer palace, etc. China in history had always been like that. They will rise to the top and fall. I guess it is true, what goes up must come down. The thing I really give China credit for is that they had been around for so long. China was considered one of the great ancient empire. I learn this in school. It was China, Mayans, Egypt, Rome and Persia. Where are they rest of them today. Rome and Mayan is gone. Persia became Iran, Egypt is still here . Both of these country is really poor and holds no power today what so ever. China is like the 2nd or 3rd most powerful country still.

As far as Filipino being in the Chinese media, there are some. The most famous one out of all of them is probably Alex To. Then there is this once actress that is pure Filipino but speak fluent Cantonese. Her name is Maria something, kind of fat. I am pretty sure there a few more.

you got my post mixed up-- first Iwas talking about shanghai.. what's so amazing is even after China became Red china-- they didn't destroy those blgs.. meaning they have respect for their past.. by nature the chinese are traditionalist- though they left those blgs in decay for decades.. as the rest of shanghai was left to get seedy & grotty on the most part as Beijing became the center under Mao.

the same thing happened too with Saigon-- I'm totally amazed the Kymers didn't burn down those French colonial blgs.. thank god for that.. that t hey didn't..

as for Hong Kong.. well, the Brits my have left but the Hong kongers left things the way it was under the Brits.. their structure etc.. in fact they improved on it.. they are not destructive-- they keep what was good & got rid of what wasn't..

and this is whay they have survived all these centuries.

PS: what I cannot understand is-- 3 centuries under Spain & Phil doesn't have much to show for it.. the best Cathyolic Catherals are in Macau built by the Portuguese.. in fact.. that's another place.. Macau.. they cleaned it up & maintained all those lovely Portuguese architecture left behind..

[orient]

Nationalism can never exist in the Philippines because there are to many Ethnicities and Races in the Philippines which is like Brazil and I think China can never solve the problem of the Philippines for it is Marcos who started the problem because before the Marcos era, the Philippines was the richest and most technological advanced country in South East Asia. It was also Marcos who replaced the Spanish oligachs with Chinese oligachs by transfering their properties to them creating a cronie driven Marcos regime. If Marcos would only return the billions of dollar gold reserves which really belong to the Philippines, then this would be a big help.

The Philippines learned its lesson from history and it would not be decieved again. Remember the billion dollar ZTE deal where China was trying to buy out the Philippines the Filipinos reacted and it did the materialize.

Too many ethnicities and races ? Where were you when the teacher is talking about demographics?
And you're saying that Chinese-Filipinos became rich because of Marcos.

[martin_nuke]

Lucio Tan was Marcos top Cronie.

http://www.soulcast.com/post/show/160371/L...-to-New-Zealand

[zhengchenggong]

Nationalism can never exist in the Philippines because there are to many Ethnicities and Races in the Philippines which is like Brazil and I think China can never solve the problem of the Philippines for it is Marcos who started the problem because before the Marcos era, the Philippines was the richest and most technological advanced country in South East Asia. It was also Marcos who replaced the Spanish oligachs with Chinese oligachs by transfering their properties to them creating a cronie driven Marcos regime. If Marcos would only return the billions of dollar gold reserves which really belong to the Philippines, then this would be a big help.

The Philippines learned its lesson from history and it would not be decieved again. Remember the billion dollar ZTE deal where China was trying to buy out the Philippines the Filipinos reacted and it did the materialize.

I suppose Marcos is also the reason why ethnic Chinese are economically dominant in the rest of SE Asia? Fact is, the Chinese are more hard working, smarter and adaptive than the Spanish Filipino elite, who are a bunch of dinosaurs. It's no wonder why the rest of SE Asia is dominated by Chinese businessmen.

Who said China is trying to solve the Philippines' problems? China's is concerned only about its own interests.

The Philippines was the richest country in Southeast Asia only because it was an American colony. Soon after that, it deeply stagnated and regressed. Now, the Philippines is one of the poorest nations in Southeast Asia. Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia have all surpassed it, soon, Vietnam will surpass it quickly too, and probably rise to the top in SE Asia.

This post has been edited by zhengchenggong: May 27 2009, 11:31 PM

[martin_nuke]

When the Philippines became the richest in Southeast Asia it was already an independent nation from a US commonwealth nation. The Philippines became independent in 1946 and became the richest in Southeast Asia in 1965.

China had been corrupting Philippine politicians before for its own interest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Na...ork_controversy

http://www.newsbreak.com.ph/index.php?opti...temid=88889066/

This post has been edited by martin_nuke: May 27 2009, 11:46 PM

[zhengchenggong]

When the Philippines became the richest in Southeast Asia it was already an independent nation from a US commonwealth nation. The Philippines became independent in 1946 and became the richest in Southeast Asia in 1965.

China had been corrupting Philippine politicians before for its own interest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Na...ork_controversy

http://www.newsbreak.com.ph/index.php?opti...temid=88889066/

The Philippines was already the richest nation in SE Asia when it gained independence. It may have grown a bit afterwards, but quickly regressed. If you think Marcos is the only reason for the Philippines' problems, well, its been over 20 years since Marcos and the Philippines has not inched forward.

The Chinese corrupt Filipino politicians because the Filipino system IS CORRUPT. Of course they have to bribe politicians because Filipino politicians EXPECT BRIBES. It's a corrupt country to the core, if you want to thrive in it, you need to be corrupt too. That's how the Philippines work, its not the Chinese, but the Spanish to created its corrupt system.

[martin_nuke]

At least China corrupting the Philippines does not work anymore because it gets busted and I thank partly to democracy. The next Philippine election will be on 2010 and I hope that the Filipinos would vote carefully and wisely because that will determine the future of the Phlippines.

This post has been edited by martin_nuke: May 28 2009, 12:39 AM

[zhengchenggong]

At least China corrupting the Philippines does not work anymore because it gets busted and I thank partly to democracy.

Maybe in a few cases, there may be nationalistic outbursts. But the Philippines overall is extremely corrupt from the small cop to the president.

Funny how Filipinos are very sensitive about being exploited by China, but are glad to be exploited by Whites. Very telling about the colonial mentality there.

[zhengchenggong]

At least China corrupting the Philippines does not work anymore because it gets busted and I thank partly to democracy. The next Philippine election will be on 2010 and I hope that the Filipinos would vote carefully and wisely because that will determine the future of the Phlippines.

What change is there? All Filipino politicians are corrupt scumbags. Its in the national culture. Unless the national culture changes, there will be no progress.

[orient]

The Philippines was already the richest nation in SE Asia when it gained independence. It may have grown a bit afterwards, but quickly regressed. If you think Marcos is the only reason for the Philippines' problems, well, its been over 20 years since Marcos and the Philippines has not inched forward.

The Chinese corrupt Filipino politicians because the Filipino system IS CORRUPT. Of course they have to bribe politicians because Filipino politicians EXPECT BRIBES. It's a corrupt country to the core, if you want to thrive in it, you need to be corrupt too. That's how the Philippines work, its not the Chinese, but the Spanish to created its corrupt system.

It's a waste of time arguing with martin_nuke.

He's one of those Filipinos who will FOREVER treat Chinese-Filipinos as outsiders, can't accept reality and responsibility and blame others like China for everything.

[martin_nuke]

What change is there? All Filipino politicians are corrupt scumbags. Its in the national culture. Unless the national culture changes, there will be no progress.

I believe that there will be progress and change because the Filipinos already learned their lesson and they will really vote someone worthy or least corrupt and it will make a big difference.

It's a waste of time arguing with martin_nuke.

He's one of those Filipinos who will FOREVER treat Chinese-Filipinos as outsiders, can't accept reality and responsibility and blame others like China for everything.

I was not blaming Chinese-Filipinos, I was blaming Marcos who made Chinese-Filipinos Cronies. Did you notice that many Chinese Filipinos are fleeing the Philippines and Investing somewhere else.

This post has been edited by martin_nuke: May 28 2009, 12:55 AM

[zhengchenggong]

It's a waste of time arguing with martin_nuke.

He's one of those Filipinos who will FOREVER treat Chinese-Filipinos as outsiders, can't accept reality and responsibility and blame others like China for everything.

Unfortunately, it is well ingrained in the Filipino mindset to hate the Chinese, but to love their White overlords.

It is funny that many Filipinos complain about Chinese domination of their economy. But when do you hear them complain about the domination of Spanish Filipinos in their media or politics? No, they want to believe these are "real Filipinos" and their domination is completely natural. But from slant eyed chineses? No way.

[zhengchenggong]

I believe that there will be progress and change because the Filipinos already learned their lesson and they will really vote someone worthy or least corrupt and it will make a big difference.


I was not blaming Chinese-Filipinos, I was blaming Marcos who made Chinese-Filipinos Cronies. Did you notice that many Chinese Filipinos are fleeing the Philippines and Investing somewhere else.

I don't think Filipinos have learnt their lesson because they do not take their democracy or politicians seriously.

Several years ago, Gloria Arroyo was elected and people said she would do well because she has a Harvard degree. She is one of the most corrupt politicians ever.

Filipino politicians are talkers, not doers. Their democracy is a circus, it's not to be taken seriously. The Philippines have many deep cultural and social issues that need to be resolved before it can compete with the likes of Thailand or Vietnam, let alone even South Korea or Taiwan.

[martin_nuke]

Unfortunately, it is well ingrained in the Filipino mindset to hate the Chinese, but to love their White overlords.

It is funny that many Filipinos complain about Chinese domination of their economy. But when do you hear them complain about the domination of Spanish Filipinos in their media or politics? No, they want to believe these are "real Filipinos" and their domination is completely natural. But from slant eyed chineses? No way.

I don't even love White and I don't care about them. I don't even love White women I love African and Austroloid women because they are beautiful, hot and sexy to me. If a Spaniard have empregnated my great great great great grand mother, I do not care and that Spaniard might not even be White he maybe a dark Andalucian.

This post has been edited by martin_nuke: May 28 2009, 01:02 AM

[zhengchenggong]

I don't even love White and I don't care about them. I don't even love White women I love African and Austroloid women because they are hot and sexy to me. If a Spaniard have empregnated my great great great great grand mother, I do not care and that Spaniard might not even be White he maybe a dark Andalucian.

If that's really the case, you don't represent mainstream Filipino attitudes which definitely worship Whites and mixing with Whites. You know it too.