Unified NE Asian Kingdom (Japan + Korea + Mongolia) Options

[cyon]

I believe this idea was first brought in by many Japanese and Korean politicians about 4-50 years ago...

What do you think of the idea? Agree or disagree? Please answer (Japanese only!)

[PCAT]

I'm FED UP with dealing with stupid and ignorant posters who don't even know what their own politicians put out as STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS.

MOST educated people in the world know about the contents of the geopolitical statements from HIGHLY-PLACED US officials, eg. NEO-CONS, and their Project for a New American Century, Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Grand Chessboard, etc, etc.

FACTS.

In other words, you derive your tenuous accusations from PNAC & Brzezinski's geopolitical statements/views, which were non-specific to Pan-Altaic movement.

Mongolia is already headed to be a part of China, better to focus on joining forces with China to take Siberia from Russia.

Good luck with getting Mongolians to join you. They don't hold your empire in a favorable light at all:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/...mp;type=article

"While most people feel far-right discourse is too extreme, there seems to be a consensus that China is imperialistic, 'evil' and intent on taking Mongolia," said Franck Billé of Cambridge University, who is researching representations of Chinese people in Mongolia.

Hip hop tracks such as Don't Go Too Far, You chineses by 4 Züg – chorus: "shoot them all, all, all" – have been widely played in bars and clubs. Urban myths abound; some believe Beijing has a secret policy of encouraging men to have sex with Mongolian women.

I bet Qwerty will blame CIA for Mongolian's views of China as "imperialistic" and "evil".

This post has been edited by PCAT: May 13 2011, 12:43 PM

[qwerty2010]

In other words, you derive your tenuous accusations from PNAC & Brzezinski's geopolitical statements/views, which were non-specific to Pan-Altaic movement.



Good luck with getting Mongolians to join you. They don't hold your empire in a favorable light at all:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/...mp;type=article


I bet Qwerty will blame CIA for Mongolian's views of China as "imperialistic" and "evil".

First of all, if you are unfamiliar with all the historic and political literature out there about Empire divide-and-conquer strategies pitting different ethnicities against each other, I feel sorry for your level of knowledge and I'm afraid we cannot have a remotely intelligent discourse if you are under-educated in this area.

Example from simple Googling of these key words:

http://www.fpif.org/articles/divide_and_co..._imperial_rules

And I'm also not going to address your strawmen about getting Mongolia to join "our empire" (what a joke...)..., maybe you Americans should not be such hypocrites in pointing fingers as you REGULARLY coerce with carrots and sticks to make other nations join YOUR EMPIRE. Even those who joined but didn't do enough are targeted for political assassination, eg. Gaddafi. Whether NATO raising a ruckus about "No Fly Zone" and then proceed itself to BOMB Libya and killing Libyans for a month now is hypocritical, moral or legal, that is another question.

China respects sovereign national boundaries, China doesn't try to assassinate leaders, sponsor secessionists and rebels to subvert governments, etc. China doesn't use "humanitarianism" as a pretext to topple regimes. Are these acts "imperial" or "evil"? I guess NOT to Americans, Koreans, etc.

Americans, Mongolians, Koreans and Japanese are of course free to do whatever they want to do. China and Russia will also VIEW their actions from their own perspectives, as NORMAL nations do, or is it a CRIME to even THINK differently from the US perspective???

We're guilty of Thought Crimes, now, huh? What a bastion of Freedom indeed.

This post has been edited by qwerty2010: May 14 2011, 01:15 AM

[KochiGachi]

^ Haha, you again talk as if you're representing China & Russia and rest of the world.