Why both Japanese and Korean nationalists lust after Manchuria Options

[EazyMoney]

Seems like Manchuria has nothing do with them at all.
It beats me


Anyway, just a shoutout.


peace

[Eidolon]

Considering the cost/benefit of the situation, it is pretty clear that Koreans should have no intentions on the territory when there are better opportunities and benefits for the Korean people through other channels.

I don't disagree with your analysis with respect to the present day, but once Korea is unified, things may change. At that time, the threat, albeit still small, would not be non-existent. Consequently, it is not irrational for China to worry and to take precautions.

As for what is profitable, what would be most profitable in the long-term would be a push towards terraforming and colonizing space - at which point these territorial disputes on earth would be seen as no more than petty squabbles. But humanity being petty children to begin with, such a move appears impossible in the short-term. Consequently, China must be prepared to defend its territorial interests against would-be challengers, even if those challenges never actually materialize. As I've said in other threads, of course no wants war or conflict, but it is better to be prepared than to be caught with your pants down.

[Chan-Ho]

I don't disagree with your analysis with respect to the present day, but once Korea is unified, things may change. At that time, the threat, albeit still small, would not be non-existent. Consequently, it is not irrational for China to worry and to take precautions.

As for what is profitable, what would be most profitable in the long-term would be a push towards terraforming and colonizing space - at which point these territorial disputes on earth would be seen as no more than petty squabbles. But humanity being petty children to begin with, such a move appears impossible in the short-term. Consequently, China must be prepared to defend its territorial interests against would-be challengers, even if those challenges never actually materialize. As I've said in other threads, of course no wants war or conflict, but it is better to be prepared than to be caught with your pants down.

Yes, and the problem is that China's "taking of pre-cauions" includes distorting Korean history and supporting the tyrannical North Korean regime, among other imperialistic policies... are Chinese nationalists so blind to see why Koreans might be pissed and why we call on the world to recognize this growing threat to stability in the region?

[haozhao]

Yes, and the problem is that China's "taking of pre-cauions" includes distorting Korean history and supporting the tyrannical North Korean regime, among other imperialistic policies... are Chinese nationalists so blind to see why Koreans might be pissed and why we call on the world to recognize this growing threat to stability in the region?

China has been pushing North Korea to open. Its recent acts have been on its own accord and have been against China's wishes.

The Koguryo issue was supposed to be an academic one, but it became politicized. Koguryo was a kingdom set up by ancestors of several of China's Northeastern Minorities including the Chaoxian Zu, the Korean ethnics, the Manchus and others. Therefore, in relation to China's current multi-cultural system, it was certainly related to Chinese history and of that region. But Koreans viewed it as Han Chinese claiming Koguryo was Han, which was never the case.

I personally do not care about the issue and I think the flare up was quite stupid.

Let's face some facts. Are Koreans and Japanese ever going to like China? No. Because China is the biggest country next to small ones, of course the small ones will always feel some kind of threat. However, the fact is that China is not acting antagonistic towards either country, trade is booming, and all three countries are likely to co-exist and continue cordial relations because of trade.

We don't have to like each other, we just need to exist by one another.