Why both Japanese and Korean nationalists lust after Manchuria Options

[EazyMoney]

Seems like Manchuria has nothing do with them at all.
It beats me


Anyway, just a shoutout.


peace

[gaogouliWIN7]

Look, Manchu conquered Han Chinese it would be more legitimate if Manchu claimed Tang, Ming, Sui etc.

But the other way round, the conquered ones claiming Manchu history is pure funny.


Sounds as if American natives are claiming European history now.

[NancyPelosi]

Look, Manchu conquered Han Chinese it would be more legitimate if Manchu claimed Tang, Ming, Sui etc.

But the other way round, the conquered ones claiming Manchu history is pure funny.


Sounds as if American natives are claiming European history now.

You really have no idea how conquered territories work do you?

In WWII, Germany conquered parts of the Soviet Union but then the Soviets came back and eventually ended up with half of Germany.

Same way Manchus defeated the Han rule and took its land, then Han defeated the Manchu rule and took its land.

Native Americans never took America back and Americans are not assimilated into the native cultures the way the Manchus are with the Han today. Your comparison is simply moronic.

Either way, the Han Chinese have extended into portions of Manchuria in past dynasties, far more than Goguryeo had at its greatest extent (Clear examples in my previous post). Saying Korea has more claim to Manchuria is just bogus.

[gaogouli3]

You really have no idea how conquered territories work do you?

In WWII, Germany conquered parts of the Soviet Union but then the Soviets came back and eventually ended up with half of Germany.

Same way Manchus defeated the Han rule and took its land, then Han defeated the Manchu rule and took its land.

Native Americans never took America back and Americans are not assimilated into the native cultures the way the Manchus are with the Han today. Your comparison is simply moronic.

Either way, the Han Chinese have extended into portions of Manchuria in past dynasties, far more than Goguryeo had at its greatest extent (Clear examples in my previous post). Saying Korea has more claim to Manchuria is just bogus.

If you are basing this on territorial expansion, you should not bring the Han dynasty as a proof.
Its common knowledge that Han dynasty was a pool of loosely related tribes.



Even on this map, you can clearly see GAOGOULI on top right.

This post has been edited by gaogouli3: Jun 12 2009, 03:28 AM