China under The Wassenaar Arrangement Restriction. |
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China under The Wassenaar Arrangement Restriction. |
Jun 20 2009, 12:12 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 31-August 08 |
This is the about dual use technology restrictions formed by group of countries. The members are
Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom and United States. ================================================== === Take a look at the list, and think, CHina, soon to be number 2 biggest and one of the most impoertant economies in the world has to subject to this type of restriction. What's Estonia, Malta, Romania, Slovakia ..et doing there?? And I see communist countries inside too. I only see asian countries there, Korea and Japan the two supposedly well behaved Asian model citizens according to the west. Is this some kind of exclusive club?? http://www.wassenaar.org/introduction/index.html Do you think it's comical and a farce? Something serious wrong with the picture? If you take a look at that list, with exceptions of few exceptional minority model countries that follow the west... I tempting to use the word racist. obviously, with Russia being a member, one of hard core dictatorship communist country.. So, this tells me it has nothing to do with ideologies. Communist and Democratic. Race is a much bigger factor. |
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Jun 20 2009, 03:13 PM
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AF Fan Group: Banned Posts: 26 Joined: 20-June 09 |
you guys really misunderstand this. please spend at least five minutes reading their site before making your comments.
they are not just directed towards china. they have guidelines against terrorism and sale of small arms too. the actual export controls are implemented by each individual country. the inclusion of Russia tells you it's not a geopolitical "club" that shares among themselves but restricts others. It's just like one of those many "philanthropic" "feel good" organizations western countries love and J and K love to emulate. the real teeth against china are the US arms embargo and EU arms embargo. these are specifically controlling exports to china citing the tiananmen incident. Wassenaar has nothing to do with those. |
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Jun 20 2009, 06:24 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 31-August 08 |
the real teeth against china are the US arms embargo and EU arms embargo. these are specifically controlling exports to china citing the tiananmen incident. Wassenaar has nothing to do with those. To me, this is the real deal, dual usage restriction has hampered China's commercial development which far more fundamental across the board in one country advancement than its arms embargo. Because if China 's commercial advancement to certain degree, its arms development would advance naturally as a byproduct . This post has been edited by antimatter: Jun 20 2009, 06:26 PM |
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antimatter China under The Wassenaar Arrangement Restriction. Jun 20 2009, 12:12 PM
sinraptor When ever the west has ever tried to exclde China,... Jun 20 2009, 12:19 PM
antimatter Obviously race plays an important card to the club... Jun 20 2009, 12:27 PM
sinraptor QUOTE (antimatter @ Jun 20 2009, 11:27 AM... Jun 20 2009, 12:33 PM
antimatter QUOTE (sinraptor @ Jun 20 2009, 12:33 PM)... Jun 20 2009, 12:37 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (antimatter @ Jun 20 2009, 01:12 PM... Jun 20 2009, 02:36 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 04:13 PM) y... Jun 20 2009, 03:29 PM

antimatter QUOTE (Eidolon @ Jun 20 2009, 03:29 PM) I... Jun 20 2009, 06:29 PM
delgrodel QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 04:13 PM) y... Jun 20 2009, 05:24 PM
clusterweapon QUOTE (antimatter @ Jun 20 2009, 07:24 PM... Jun 20 2009, 06:35 PM
antimatter QUOTE (clusterweapon @ Jun 20 2009, 06:35... Jun 20 2009, 06:40 PM
bigbomb ^ China has far more military technology than most... Jun 20 2009, 03:43 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 04:43 PM) ^... Jun 20 2009, 04:12 PM
bigbomb did you see a recent documentary by Russia Today a... Jun 20 2009, 04:19 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 05:19 PM) d... Jun 20 2009, 04:32 PM
bigbomb countries don't need legal justification to co... Jun 20 2009, 04:39 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 05:39 PM) c... Jun 20 2009, 04:59 PM
mkfk1 As some members have already mention...Russia have... Jun 20 2009, 04:43 PM
bigbomb It does have a secretive sounding name, and if it... Jun 20 2009, 05:05 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 06:05 PM) I... Jun 20 2009, 05:37 PM
bigbomb what do you mean UK and US don't meet the crit... Jun 20 2009, 05:29 PM
delgrodel QUOTE (bigbomb @ Jun 20 2009, 05:29 PM) w... Jun 20 2009, 06:01 PM
clusterweapon QUOTE (Eidolon @ Jun 20 2009, 06:37 PM) D... Jun 20 2009, 06:27 PM
clusterweapon ^they are restricted under the US embargo accordin... Jun 20 2009, 06:53 PM
antimatter QUOTE (clusterweapon @ Jun 20 2009, 06:53... Jun 20 2009, 07:33 PM
clusterweapon USA will not sell arms to China any more than Chin... Jun 20 2009, 07:53 PM
Eidolon QUOTE (clusterweapon @ Jun 20 2009, 08:53... Jun 20 2009, 08:48 PM
sinraptor meh sounds like one of those organizations that th... Jun 20 2009, 09:41 PM![]() ![]() |
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