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salamat
post Oct 26 2009, 02:40 PM
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What do u think??? culturally and media wise

start teaching about pre-spanish culture and alibata writing in classrooms
More ethnic malay and austronesian filipinos and less mestizas in the media
stop the war in the south....let bangsamoro have a autonomous govt...so what if they want Islam to be in their school curiculum....let them

build closer relations with Malaysia and Indonesia...so we can cooperate to curb chinese threat to South China Sea
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sonofgunongjerai
post Nov 4 2009, 12:12 AM
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Kota Seludong? That's quite new for me though... We learn something about Jose Rizal here but never heard about your ancient kingdoms there. Maybe we should add something about the Philippines after this in SEAn history lessons.

I heard that there are few Malay tribes in Lower Myanmar too. They are called as Pashu regardless whether they are Buddhist or Muslim. I dunno what Pashu means in Burmese, but I hate the term because it means Creature (Animal) in Sanskrit.
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post Nov 4 2009, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE (sonofgunongjerai @ Nov 3 2009, 10:12 PM) *
Kota Seludong? That's quite new for me though... We learn something about Jose Rizal here but never heard about your ancient kingdoms there. Maybe we should add something about the Philippines after this in SEAn history lessons.

I heard that there are few Malay tribes in Lower Myanmar too. They are called as Pashu regardless whether they are Buddhist or Muslim. I dunno what Pashu means in Burmese, but I hate the term because it means Creature (Animal) in Sanskrit.

Seludong/Seludang/Selurung that was the name of Manila when it was under the Sultanate of Brunei

but this i am not very sure yet of its accuracy
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Nama MANILA sendiri datangnya dari kalimah Arab iaitu Fiamanillah yang bermaksud "Dalam Lindungan Allah".
"The name MANILA itself comes from the Arabic word which means Fiamanillah "In the shelter of God."
http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila

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"Malays in Myanmar (called Salon or Pa Shu), are almost same as but a little bit different from the Malays in Southern Thailand, East and West Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Philippines and Indonesia. Pa Shu in Myanmar is likely to be the corrupted word (or a different slang) in Myanmar language from- Bajau. That Bajau tribe is the largest Muslim indigenous group in Sabah & Sulu. From the three groups of Bajau these Myanmar citizens of Malays are the Moken and the related Moklen group. They are mostly found in the Mergui Archipelago of Myanmar and the whole of the Tanintharyi coast. "
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post Nov 6 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (filipinoy @ Nov 4 2009, 01:22 AM) *
but this i am not very sure yet of its accuracy
"The name MANILA itself comes from the Arabic word which means Fiamanillah "In the shelter of God."
http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila

Looks more accurate than the accepted etymology of May-nilad or 'there is a nilad plant'.
Just like its mother, Brunei Darrusalam came from Hindu and Arab words which means City of Peace(Darussalam) of the people of Varuna(Baruna-i). Varuna is a Hindu God.
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post Nov 7 2009, 04:04 AM
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QUOTE (trismegistos @ Nov 6 2009, 06:30 PM) *
Looks more accurate than the accepted etymology of May-nilad or 'there is a nilad plant'.
Just like its mother, Brunei Darrusalam came from Hindu and Arab words which means City of Peace(Darussalam) of the people of Varuna(Baruna-i). Varuna is a Hindu God.

it's funny the "manila" in wikipedia is available in almost 100 languages, & only the Melayu & Arabic mentioned "Fi Amanillah".

i think they are trying to hide our muslim past because it will be so ironic if the capital of one of the largest Catholic country in the world Manila – Amānillāh (امان الله) has a meaning of "Peace under the protection of Allah"

Tausug site still refers to the City of Manila as Bandar Amanillah (Mendapat keamanan Allah)
http://tausugglobal.blogspot.com/2008/09/8...am-sejarah.html

http://muslimspeak.wordpress.com/2008/10/1...84%D9%84%D9%87/

http://www.whymuhammad.com/ph/contents.aspx?aid=2345

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post Nov 7 2009, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE (filipinoy @ Nov 7 2009, 01:04 AM) *
it's funny the "manila" in wikipedia is available in almost 100 languages, & only the Melayu & Arabic mentioned "Fi Amanillah".

i think they are trying to hide our muslim past because it will be so ironic if the capital of one of the largest Catholic country in the world Manila – Amānillāh (امان الله) has a meaning of "Peace under the protection of Allah"

Tausug site still refers to the City of Manila as Bandar Amanillah (Mendapat keamanan Allah)
http://tausugglobal.blogspot.com/2008/09/8...am-sejarah.html

http://muslimspeak.wordpress.com/2008/10/1...84%D9%84%D9%87/

http://www.whymuhammad.com/ph/contents.aspx?aid=2345


True, Manila was under the control of Muslim datus before Spain came, but it doesn't mean the entire population were muslim. The National Historical Research of the Philippines has a work detailing the history of Manila before the Spaniards and the majority of it's inhabitants, then called Maynilad, were a mix of animists and Buddhists.
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