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How far are we from a DRAFT?, You should shape up just in case.
Yax
post Nov 4 2004, 02:05 AM
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So our situation in Iraq is not good. Here's the possible course of actions:

1. The troops do a great job and we fight down the insurgents. They come home, everyone's happy. (possible, but not likely).

2. More bloodshed, Bush orders more troops. Oops, there aren't anymore troops. Either backdown and declare a loss or start a draft. I'm betting Bush will opt for the draft since he never backs down. Good bye all 18-25 year old Hmong kids, if you didn't vote or voted for Bush then support him with your life.

So, the big question: how far are we from a draft? Here's something to think about. Right now, there's already a "backdoor draft". That's when someone who served their term and was supposed to come home gets booked for an extended stay in Iraq because we're short on men. What does that mean? Think about it. Short on men + can't back down = ?


So, will the nation allow a draft? No, but the nation can't stop one because Republicans now rule the House, Senate and Presidency. They can pass any bill they want.

Boy am I glad I'm over 25.
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post Nov 8 2004, 12:01 AM
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Hah, we were anti-draft all along you dumbass Republican bastard. If anything, Bush is the fu-king hypocrite. He calls Kerry a damn flip-flopper while he does the same $hit himself. And like the pathetic dumbass you are, because you're Republican, you spelled hypocrite wrong. Good job.


You're kinda slow aren't you?

My argument was never about whether the Democrats were in support of a possible draft in the very first place (obviously they weren't). It is about Kerry taking advantage of the public's fear to manipulate votes, something which he accused Bush of doing when he placed terror threats on the forefront of his campaign agenda. So now you see where the hypocrisy lies.

The chances of the draft being reinstated is close to non-existent, yet Kerry's BS department exaggerated the threat to the point that the prospect of being put in uniform against their will and dying in a foreign land became a serious, and quite real concern for many young Americans. Yet he accuses Bush of using scare tactics to win votes, what a hypocritE (there it is you spelling whore)

The House voted 402-2 against a proposed draft bill just last month, guess who introduced it?

Congressman Charles Rangel...... a DEMOCRAP embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2

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Republicans are all idiotic Bible-worshipping fu-kholes. None of you fu-king Republicans can defend yourselves without using the Bible, and you all are just pieces of $hit because of it. Case rested. I bet you dumbasses won't even respond. 


You keep assuming I'm a bible-thumper just because I am Korean and a Bush supporter. Well I'm a Buddhist, so there you go tongue.gif Stop with the generalizations for a moment, I could easily call you hippie, commie, tree-hugging liberal, who needs to be reminded to put his bong down first before he starts typing incoherent BS on the internet. embarassedlaugh.gif2


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I bet you dumbasses won't even respond. 


You're right, I don't respond to senseless, garbage posts. All you've given me so far are cheap insults and mindless ramblings, and you actually expect me to carry on our little "debate"?

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post Nov 8 2004, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (Mantis)
My argument was never about whether the Democrats were in support of a possible draft in the very first place (obviously they weren't). It is about Kerry taking advantage of the public's fear to manipulate votes, something which he accused Bush of doing when he placed terror threats on the forefront of his campaign agenda. So now you see where the hypocrisy lies.


o_o

It was Bush who established the fear of terror among the American population, not the "DemoCRAPS". Do you remember what Cheney said a few months back? "If you do not vote for us, America will be attacked." He said that with such certainty that it seemed to me like he was planning an attack on America himself. I think that the Bush administration is much more at fault than Kerry. Even the cause for the war in Iraq was disproved. Why do we want a president who would deceive us? ...Rather, why did we. ._.;

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The chances of the draft being reinstated is close to non-existent, yet Kerry's BS department exaggerated the threat to the point that the prospect of being put in uniform against their will and dying in a foreign land became a serious, and quite real concern for many young Americans. Yet he accuses Bush of using scare tactics to win votes, what a hypocritE (there it is you spelling whore)

The House voted 402-2 against a proposed draft bill just last month, guess who introduced it?

Congressman Charles Rangel...... a DEMOCRAP  embarassedlaugh.gifembarassedlaugh.gifembarassedlaugh.gif2


Ah yes, thank you for indulging my spelling pet peeve. embarassedlaugh.gif

Have you looked at the results of the war? Even after the duration Bush said the war was determined to take, soldiers are still in there, and many have died. You don't think that the soldiers there are not going to receive replacement soldiers there, are you?

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You keep assuming I'm a bible-thumper just because I am Korean and a Bush supporter. Well I'm a Buddhist, so there you go  tongue.gif Stop with the generalizations for a moment, I could easily call you hippie, commie, tree-hugging liberal, who needs to be reminded to put his bong down first before he starts typing incoherent BS on the internet.  embarassedlaugh.gif2


lawlz. You know, people who are Republicans generally are Christians who are uber Bible-worshippers. And Koreans here in my area tend to be Christian and uberconservative, so I assumed you were. Honestly, I've never met a Korean Buddhist, and I apologize for the contemptous generalization.

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You're right, I don't respond to senseless, garbage posts. All you've given me so far are cheap insults and mindless ramblings, and you actually expect me to carry on our little "debate"?


Ho, you're guilty of the same thing, bashing the Democrats every chance you get. And if I make such "senseless, garbage posts", why don't you prove my posts wrong then? I've only met Republicans who only believe in "my way or the high way", and you're no different from it. biggthumpup.gif

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- - vanggirlie   hey flipcombatmedic i have a question...are you t...   Nov 6 2004, 04:09 PM
- - flipcombatmedic   no mam, i was just saying that i wouldn't have...   Nov 6 2004, 04:13 PM
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- - CJK   not too far from a draft indeed, espicially after ...   Nov 6 2004, 05:07 PM
|- - 福州市长   QUOTE (CJK @ Nov 6 2004, 06:07 PM)not too far...   Nov 6 2004, 05:14 PM
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|- - 福州市长   QUOTE (Jigoku Z @ Nov 6 2004, 08:04 PM)one si...   Nov 6 2004, 07:36 PM
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|- - flipcombatmedic   QUOTE (tqt @ Nov 6 2004, 09:18 PM)During the ...   Nov 6 2004, 09:51 PM
|- - Yax   QUOTE (tqt @ Nov 6 2004, 07:18 PM)The draft w...   Nov 6 2004, 10:12 PM
|- - tqt   QUOTE (Yax @ Nov 6 2004, 11:12 PM)QUOTE (tqt ...   Nov 6 2004, 10:25 PM
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|- - Xai   QUOTE (Mantis @ Nov 7 2004, 02:03 PM)QUOTE So...   Nov 7 2004, 09:42 PM
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