hawaiian independence movement Options

[blackonwhite]

The media or textbooks never shows this, but hawaii has had a very strong independence movement. It is a myth that hawaii is a state, more like they are still under US occupation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqDkCzwXeY...player_embedded

[crabdonut]

Hey Mr. clonecd, most people in Siberia, Uyghur, and Central Asia are classified as belonging to the Mongoloid race, or "East Asian" race.

Siberia is made up of not only what you say "Mongoloid" people but also many different groups of people speaking Indo-European languages aka "Caucasians". Furthermore, you forget that South Asia is also, along with Central Asia, the most supported origin of R1a. I'm sure you know that almost all of South Asia are composed of people you would consider "Caucasian".

Non-Africans came by way of Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, then to the Arabian Peninsula. A split occurred somewhere here, and a group of people went to the Mediterranean coast - they are (probably) the Southern Europeans. The remainder then migrated through the coast of Iran, Pakistan, and India, and then up to Central Asia. Some of them went to Europe and eventually became the Northern Europeans of Scandinavia; the others went eastward to become the East Asians.

First of all, the out of Africa theory is not completely confirmed. Second, I'm quite aware of what he meant but even if we consider the out of Africa theory to be correct, R1a had not even come in to existence yet and the people migrating haven't even developed in to "East Asians" yet when they moved to Europe hence why I think what he said was irrelevant.

Just so we're clear. I am not completely opposed to the idea that some Scandinavians may have "East Asian" ancestry, but you will need far more proof for a claim like that.

This post has been edited by crabdonut: Apr 15 2010, 02:09 AM

[ocrapdm]

Siberia is made up of not only what you say "Mongoloid" people but also many different groups of people speaking Indo-European languages aka "Caucasians". Furthermore, you forget that South Asia is also, along with Central Asia, the most supported origin of R1a. I'm sure you know that almost all of South Asia are composed of people you would consider "Caucasian".

Yup; but the study considers Siberia as being part of "Central Asia". I'm sure you also know that when anthropologists talk about Central Asia and Siberia, it refers to the indigenous people who are largely "Mongoloid" in origins.

The said study also talks about Siberians and Uyghurs, which are both considered Mongoloid.

[crabdonut]

Yup; but the study considers Siberia as being part of "Central Asia". I'm sure you also know that when anthropologists talk about Central Asia and Siberia, it refers to the indigenous people who are largely "Mongoloid" in origins.

The said study also talks about Siberians and Uyghurs, which are both considered Mongoloid.

Nope they consider it Central Asia who are composed of "Mongoloid" and "Caucasian" people. Don't make assumptions. Also you didn't explain the part about scientists also considering South Asia as the origin of R1a and South Asia is composed of mainly "Caucasians".