hawaiian independence movement Options

[blackonwhite]

The media or textbooks never shows this, but hawaii has had a very strong independence movement. It is a myth that hawaii is a state, more like they are still under US occupation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqDkCzwXeY...player_embedded

[samnang]

not as strong as the indigenous icelandic movement. them crackas are gonna get expelled from that island real soon.

[catman]

The media or textbooks never shows this, but hawaii has had a very strong independence movement. It is a myth that hawaii is a state, more like they are still under US occupation.

Worth watching. It would probably go stronger if the Republicans get back in the White House.

[blackonwhite]

We should all support the Hawaiian independence movement.

[islander]

With US increasing there defense in the Pacific they need Hawaii more then ever. There is little chance they would give up any part of Hawaii.

[ocrapd]

We should support the independence of Alaska, Aleutian Islands, Kuril Islands, and Hawaiian Islands from the aggression of the Whites.

Let's give our fellow Inuits of Asian origin and Hawaiian of Pacific Islander origin their own homes, lives, and country, free from any dictat.

[kreetslaak]

not as strong as the indigenous icelandic movement. them crackas are gonna get expelled from that island real soon.

Indigenous Icelanders are white, dumbass.

[sinraptor]

very ironic since the US supports seperatist movements in other countries around the world

[blackonwhite]

Indigenous Icelanders are white, dumbass.

No they're not.



They were proto-mongoloid people. Like inuits. Why do you think people like Bjork look so asian?

The Sami people, also spelled Sámi, or Saami, (also known as Lapps, although this term is considered derogatory)[6][7] are one of the indigenous people of northern Europe inhabiting Sápmi, which today encompasses parts of northern Sweden, Norway, Finland and the Kola Peninsula of Russia but also in the border area between south and middle Sweden. Their ancestral lands span an area the size of Sweden in the Nordic countries. The Sami people are among the largest indigenous ethnic groups in Europe. Their traditional languages are the Sami languages, which are classified as members of the Finno-Lappic group of the Uralic language family.

Traditionally, the Sami have plied a variety of livelihoods, including coastal fishing, fur trapping, and sheep herding. However, the best known Sami livelihood is semi-nomadic reindeer herding – which about 10% of the Sami are connected with and 2,800 actively involved with full-time.[8] For traditional, environmental, cultural, and political reasons, reindeer herding is legally reserved only for Sami people in certain regions of the Nordic countries.[9]

Anthropologists have been studying the Sami people for hundreds of years for their assumed physical and cultural differences from the rest of Europeans. Recent genetic studies have indicated that the two most frequent maternal linages of the Sámi people are the first Homo sapiens inhabitants of Europe and the second, descendants of common ancestors with Basque people, one of the earliest inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula.[38] The most common paternal linage among the Sami are possible ancestors originating from the Volga-Ural region who may represent a Finno-Ugric speaking people.[39] The result being, of a population product of two lines of migration represented by each sex, met at some point in history in the same area (or a former one, perhaps near by). Being the one represented by the female mitochondrial DNA haplogroups the more sedentary, or local, the one with western origins more in common with other Europeans, and the male Y-DNA haplogroups the ones with an eastern origin more in common with other western Asian, Uralic peoples. At which point in history, and how it came to be, is an interesting question that however shows a much earlier date than the arrival of other human groups to the region, and maybe much southern in geography, as other archaeological finds perhaps related to the Sami have been found of earlier ages in southern parts of Scandinavia.

This post has been edited by blackonwhite: Mar 5 2010, 10:31 PM

[catman]

Full Article

Celia Padron went on a Hawaiian vacation last year, lured by the prospect of beautiful beaches and friendly people. She, her husband and two teenage daughters enjoyed the black sand beach at Makena State Park on Maui. But a Hawaiian girl accosted her two teenage daughters, saying, "Go back to the mainland" and "Take your white @$$ off our beaches," says Padron, a pediatric gastroenterologist in New Jersey.

When her husband, 68 at the time, stepped between the girls, three young Hawaiian men slammed him against a vehicle, cutting his ear, and choked and punched him, Padron says. Police officers persuaded the Padrons not to press charges, saying it would be expensive for them to return for court appearances and a Hawaiian judge would side with the Hawaiian assailants, the doctor contends.

"There is no doubt in my mind [the attack] was racially motivated," she adds.

With no known hate groups and a much-trumpeted spirit of aloha or tolerance, few people outside Hawaii realize the state has a racism issue. One reason: The tourism-dependent state barely acknowledges hate crimes. That makes it hard to know how often racial violence is directed at Caucasians, who comprise about 25% of the ethnically diverse state's 1.3 million residents. Those who identify themselves as Native Hawaiian — most residents are of mixed race — account for nearly 20%.

Hawaii has collected hate crimes data since 2002 (most states began doing so a decade earlier). In the first six years, the state reported only 12 hate crimes, and half of those were in 2006. (All other things being equal, the state would be expected to have more than 800 such crimes annually, given the size of its population, according to a federal government study of hate crimes.) There was anti-white bias in eight of those incidents. But that doesn't begin to reflect the extent of racial rancor directed at non-Native Hawaiians in the Aloha State, especially in schools. For example:

The last day of school has long been unofficially designated "Beat Haole Day," with white students singled out for harassment and violence. (Haole — pronounced how-lee — is slang for a foreigner, usually white, and sometimes is used as a racial slur.)

*A non-Native Hawaiian student who challenged the Hawaiian-preference admission policy at a wealthy private school received a $7 million settlement this year.

*A 12-year-old white girl new to Hawaii from New York City needed 10 surgical staples to close a gash in her head incurred when she was beaten in 2007 by a Native Hawaiian girl who called her a "fu-king haole."

*A vocal segment of Native Hawaiians is pushing for independence to end the "prolonged occupation" by the United States and governance by natives.

*Demonstrators shouting racial epithets at whites disrupted a statehood celebration in 2006.

This post has been edited by catman: Mar 20 2010, 09:32 PM

[khuvxim]

The Sami blood show only European DNA

The "caucasian mummies" from China = show only East Asian DNA

COnfusing eh.

[ocrapdm]

Icelanders, Scandinavians, and Samis are all of R1a1 haplogroup which is thought to be from Asia.

This partly explains their high cheekbones and softer facial features than Mediterraneans such as Italians and Greeks who have strong features.

[blackonwhite]

Icelanders, Scandinavians, and Samis are all of R1a1 haplogroup which is thought to be from Asia.

This partly explains their high cheekbones and softer facial features than Mediterraneans such as Italians and Greeks who have strong features.

The native ones you mean. The current Scandinavians are caucasian mixed with sami. Most scandenavians are mostly, or all white. But a few of them are obviously mixed with indigenous. Just look at bjork.

[kreetslaak]

No they're not.

Yes, they are. There was absolutely no one living on Iceland when Scandinavian settlers arrived over a thousand years ago, often with Celtic wives - which is why today's Icelandic population is of Nordic/Celtic descent. As for Inuit colonists, they had barely even arrived in Greenland by then. Seeing as you somehow confused Iceland with Northern Scandinavia, I can understand if this information is new to you.

As for the 'Hawaii independence movement', some people's stupidity never ceases to amaze me. As if it objectively matters to native Hawaiians (which practically don't exist anymore; the vast majority of self-proclaimed Hawaiians are mixed wannabes) whether they are overwhelmed by Europeans or by Asians. I bet Taiwan's aborigines were overjoyed when their 'Asian brethren' decided to colonize them.

This post has been edited by kreetslaak: Mar 27 2010, 11:43 AM

[filipinoy]

i think the us really wants immigration to HI & every hawaiian to be mixed so they cant really claim independence

[MiCC]

China should really sell weapons to these people.

[ocrapdm]

As for the 'Hawaii independence movement', some people's stupidity never ceases to amaze me. As if it objectively matters to native Hawaiians (which practically don't exist anymore; the vast majority of self-proclaimed Hawaiians are mixed wannabes) whether they are overwhelmed by Europeans or by Asians. I bet Taiwan's aborigines were overjoyed when their 'Asian brethren' decided to colonize them.

Hawaiians were practically forced to give up their independence to the United States, thanks to the workings of the businessmen, plantation, and the 'so-called' missionaries there. That native Hawaiians don't exist anymore is a myth. The reason why they don't care anymore with being swamped by Europeans and Asians is because they know the US isn't giving them independence at all cost. It's simply called learned helplessness in Psychology.

If the West wants China out of Tibet, then I guess it would be as objective and just as rational as well that all Whites from America, Aus, NZ, and South Africa to return back to Europe and return these lands to the American Indians, Aborigines, Maoris, and Zulus, respectively.

If Tibet is "under Chinese occupation", then so is the United States "under WASP occupation" or Australia "under Brit occupation".

Were it not for indigenous resistance movements, vast swathes of Southeast Asia and Africa would prolly remain under the hands of European colonizers. Even the Brits used opium to weaken China in the late 1800s.

This post has been edited by ocrapdm: Mar 28 2010, 12:38 AM

[kreetslaak]

i think the us really wants immigration to HI & every hawaiian to be mixed so they cant really claim independence

Well, that would explain why they allowed so many Asians to immigrate to Hawaii to the point that there is now an Asian plurality there.

[kreetslaak]

Hawaiians were practically forced to give up their independence to the United States, thanks to the workings of the businessmen, plantation, and the 'so-called' missionaries there. That native Hawaiians don't exist anymore is a myth. The reason why they don't care anymore with being swamped by Europeans and Asians is because they know the US isn't giving them independence at all cost. It's simply called learned helplessness in Psychology.

At least someone's acknowledging that Asians, too, contributed heavily to the disappearance of native Hawaiian culture, not to mention their genes - all the nonsense about 'Asian brothers' notwithstanding. Maybe now it will get through AFers' thick skulls that an ethnically pure Hawaii would mean the deportation of the hundreds of thousands of descendents of Asian-Hawaiian settlers/colonists and the disappearance of the only U.S. state where Asians form a plurality.

As for native Hawaiians, I've always read that most of them are mixed and that in many cases the term is a form of self-designation rather than actual ethnicity. I remember watching a YouTube clip of a 'Hawaiian' activist getting interviewed and he pretty much looked like a white guy. I'm not a certified expert on Hawaiian demography, though, so I'm not sure just how strong their legacy is. Either way, they are a small minority.

If the West wants China out of Tibet, then I guess it would be as objective and just as rational as well that all Whites from America, Aus, NZ, and South Africa to return back to Europe and return these lands to the American Indians, Aborigines, Maoris, and Zulus, respectively.

If Tibet is "under Chinese occupation", then so is the United States "under WASP occupation" or Australia "under Brit occupation".

Were it not for indigenous resistance movements, vast swathes of Southeast Asia and Africa would prolly remain under the hands of European colonizers. Even the Brits used opium to weaken China in the late 1800s.

I don't give a damn about Tibet. Anyway, whites that whine about Tibet all the time are often the kind of spineless liberal twats that hate their own race, so they probably wouldn't even disagree with the suggestion that whites should leave the Americas. But there's not much to do when pretty much the majority of your people has turned fifth column.

This post has been edited by kreetslaak: Mar 28 2010, 08:11 PM

[walter529]

The native ones you mean. The current Scandinavians are caucasian mixed with sami. Most scandenavians are mostly, or all white. But a few of them are obviously mixed with indigenous. Just look at bjork.

Sami have nothing to do w/ Iceland. Those pictures you posted of Sami have nothing to do w/ Iceland.

Bjork's lineage is quite mysterious that has not been properly explained but a Sami theory is the least likely explanation for her Asiatic looks, considering the total absence of Sami contact with Iceland. My theory is that Bjork has an unaccounted-for East Asian ancestor in the past few generations.