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Disturbing Japanese porn of shoplifting schoolgirls getting raped
onesense
post Apr 20 2010, 01:06 AM
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Hi everyone,

I am not sure where is the most appropriate place for this so i'll post it here.

Recently, I came across a few videos online of schoolgirls in Japan shoplifting. The store manager then takes them into an office and proceeds to rape them. Cameras installed in the office captures and records the rape. It is all then edited up and sold on DVDs. In some cases, the face of the rapist is blurred out. In all cases, the faces of the victims are visible.

I have done some research and found a pornography company selling these videos. In addition, they also sell "voyeur" videos of people doing their private things. I find this to be quite disturbing. Surely things like these would be illegal?

In any case, if these videos were indeed produced using actors and what not, then I don't really care much about them. However, if they were real rapes and real voyeur, then I believe something must be done about this.

Some of the vidoes can actually be found on some large english porn video sites, which is quite disturbing. I find that what is most distressing is that people are selling videos of the rape taking place. Personally, I support punishment for those who steal (for example sending them to prison), however, I think this is worst than the crime that has taken place. icon_sad.gif

Does anyone know how we can confirm whether these are real, or whether they were made using actors and somehow turn out to be realistic?

If they indeed turn out to be real, what can we do to ensure that the perpetrators are caught and prosecuted?

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post Apr 20 2010, 08:06 AM
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those are fake.
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post Apr 20 2010, 11:03 PM
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so can u give us any links?
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post Apr 21 2010, 12:48 AM
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Sorry, but the forum guidelines state that I can not post links to material like this.

Having said that, they are quite easy to find on google as well. I think it would be good if a few other people can give their opinions on whether they are authentic or not, and then we can take it from there.

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post Apr 21 2010, 07:26 PM
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I dislike Japan's masochist government. They don't do enough.



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post Apr 22 2010, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (onesense @ Apr 20 2010, 10:48 PM) *
Sorry, but the forum guidelines state that I can not post links to material like this.

Having said that, they are quite easy to find on google as well. I think it would be good if a few other people can give their opinions on whether they are authentic or not, and then we can take it from there.

Cheers

I can relate to you, I saw a video of a Japanese girl getting beaten and raped while she her sobbing her eyes out, I didn't know if she was a actor or not, but it was too real looking...it might be a fetish...

Either way, governments gotta do something about this.

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post Apr 22 2010, 02:34 AM
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It is very disturbing indeed. Today, I came across a video where 2 guys broke into a house with video cameras and proceeded to rape the mother and her daughter inside. icon_sad.gif

This one looked really really real, infact, my hunch is that it's "homemade" so is not avaliable commercially. The culpits and the victims have their faces blurred out. However, in some shots, it seems that identification of the victims are possible.

In any case, I have done some digging and found that there is an organisation called NEVA (http://www.sc-video.org/) which governs the "ethics" of adult videos. I think it's rediculous that executives of a certain porn company were arrested for not having enough mosaic in their videos when we see videos of rapes (which I think are real) being sold. Videos sold by NEVA members contain a NEVA seal.

I have now found out that the video I was talking about in my first post is being sold by a company called Lahaina Tokai. My opinion is that there is some sort of collaboration between cetain shops and company. School girls caught stealing from the shop would be raped by the store manager, which is then filmed and sold to Lahaina. The store manager than receives some sort of commission. I am not sure as to whether Lahaina's videos have the NEVA seal.

My Japanese is very very rudimentary at best (only know the kana so far). However, I would appreciate it if we can get some more knowledgable Japanese speakers to come on board and make some enquiries. If they are real rapes, then it is possible we can make a formal compliant and get this investigated.

Let me know what you guys think! icon_smile.gif

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post Apr 22 2010, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (onesense @ Apr 22 2010, 03:34 AM) *
It is very disturbing indeed. Today, I came across a video where 2 guys broke into a house with video cameras and proceeded to rape the mother and her daughter inside. icon_sad.gif

If it is disturbing, then why do you keep watching it?
QUOTE (onesense @ Apr 22 2010, 03:34 AM) *
My Japanese is very very rudimentary at best (only know the kana so far). However, I would appreciate it if we can get some more knowledgable Japanese speakers to come on board and make some enquiries. If they are real rapes, then it is possible we can make a formal compliant and get this investigated.

Let me know what you guys think! icon_smile.gif

If they were real rapes, would these girls who got raped simply stay silent?
If they were real rapes, this would be all over the Japanese news.
If they were real rapes, police investigation would have cracked down these rapists before dinner time.

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post Apr 22 2010, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (trickytix @ Apr 22 2010, 11:46 AM) *
If it is disturbing, then why do you keep watching it?

If they were real rapes, would these girls who got raped simply stay silent?
If they were real rapes, this would be all over the Japanese news.
If they were real rapes, police investigation would have cracked down these rapists before dinner time.



yes, they're obviously fake, and this dude who made this thread obviously has a rape fetish or he would quit watching them....sick and tired of all this fu-king $hit threads by non-Japanese trying to make us look bad.
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (trickytix @ Apr 22 2010, 10:46 AM) *
If it is disturbing, then why do you keep watching it?

If they were real rapes, would these girls who got raped simply stay silent?
If they were real rapes, this would be all over the Japanese news.
If they were real rapes, police investigation would have cracked down these rapists before dinner time.


actually most rapes go unreported in japan and even if they do report it, its not publicized. it's just how they are; they like to keep the bad stuff happening all hidden. especially true for the rapes committed by american gi's. some say something like half of the women in okinawa have heard of a someone else getting raped by a solider.
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Oyabun @ Apr 22 2010, 11:16 AM) *
yes, they're obviously fake, and this dude who made this thread obviously has a rape fetish or he would quit watching them....sick and tired of all this fu-king $hit threads by non-Japanese trying to make us look bad.


it's not a smear-campaign as u look at it. it's just plain facts. rapes happen everywhere; might is right. that' how life is.
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Apr 22 2010, 12:20 PM) *
actually most rapes go unreported in japan and even if they do report it, its not publicized. it's just how they are; they like to keep the bad stuff happening all hidden. especially true for the rapes committed by american gi's. some say something like half of the women in okinawa have heard of a someone else getting raped by a solider.

and where did you get this info? You keep repeating you read the "facts" but you never cite them.
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (trickytix @ Apr 22 2010, 11:49 AM) *
and where did you get this info? You keep repeating you read the "facts" but you never cite them.


i can't seem to find the article i read onthe rates of rape in the us military, but here is an article on the general nuisance american military presence cause in japan, read the section "controversy":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Forces_Japan
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:12 PM
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it's only common sense. japan lost world war 2, so it's mere spoils of war for america. and since japan is under protection of the usa against possible communist aggression, even if rapes are reported, japan is unlikely to press americans to leave.
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Apr 22 2010, 01:09 PM) *
i can't seem to find the article i read onthe rates of rape in the us military, but here is an article on the general nuisance american military presence cause in japan, read the section "controversy":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Forces_Japan


You said these rapes are hidden. That article says these rapes are reported. Umm... what?

QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Apr 22 2010, 01:12 PM) *
it's only common sense. japan lost world war 2, so it's mere spoils of war for america. and since japan is under protection of the usa against possible communist aggression, even if rapes are reported, japan is unlikely to press americans to leave.


As I said, these rapes are reported. It also says these rapes "triggered waves of protest against American military presence in Okinawa and led to tight restrictions on off-base activities."

Moreover, it says "... a large portion of the population demand a reduction in the amount of U.S. military bases in the region." and "... local citizens have complained about excessive aircraft noise as well as various crimes perpetrated against local civilians."

You didn't cite anything about the rapes outside the US military not being reported.

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post Apr 22 2010, 12:28 PM
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i'm saying that the rate is considerably higher than the reported rate. the vast majority of rapes go unreported. and i cited that article just to give a glimpse of the truth to some of these dolts in this thread who blissfully imagine that there is no rape.

the people might want the american military to leave, but the japanese government is in no position to do that because of the communist threat.
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Apr 22 2010, 01:28 PM) *
i'm saying that the rate is considerably higher than the reported rate. the vast majority of rapes go unreported. and i cited that article just to give a glimpse of the truth to some of these dolts in this thread who blissfully imagine that there is no rape.

the people might want the american military to leave, but the japanese government is in no position to do that because of the communist threat.

As I said, you did not prove that these "vast majority of rapes go unreported." nor is it possible for you to even know that rape incidents are higher than reported. And nobody here said Japan is a crime-less nation with 0% report of rapes, only that those videos of girls getting raped is obviously staged.

You can believe the white stereotype of Japan as much as you wish.

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post Apr 22 2010, 01:19 PM
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how can i "prove" that the unreported rapes are widespread if these wretched women don't report being raped in the first place. i came across this fact in some article that i can't seem to find (and don't blame me; i just simply can't remember all the sources for every single thing i read about all the cultures i'm interested in) u can continue to believe in ur fantasy of reported statistics for all i care. one more ignorant soul to this world makes no difference. besides, ignorance is bliss.
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QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Apr 22 2010, 02:19 PM) *
how can i "prove" that the unreported rapes are widespread if these wretched women don't report being raped in the first place. i came across this fact in some article that i can't seem to find (and don't blame me; i just simply can't remember all the sources for every single thing i read about all the cultures i'm interested in) u can continue to believe in ur fantasy of reported statistics for all i care. one more ignorant soul to this world makes no difference. besides, ignorance is bliss.



just admit that you're a bigotted @$$hole who knows nothing about Japanese culture except what he reads in western newspapers and literature with your warped stereotypical views of us.
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post Apr 22 2010, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Oyabun @ Apr 22 2010, 02:20 PM) *
just admit that you're a bigotted @$$hole who knows nothing about Japanese culture except what he reads in western newspapers and literature with your warped stereotypical views of us.


if there's anything i will admit, i will admit this: my knowledge of asia is still lacking, but it's building every day because i maintain a constructive mindset (unlike some people) based on open-mindedness, curiosity, reason, the workings of a healthy mind. u can boast about being knowledgeable about japan, but what use is that if u're too arrogant to believe or accept other people's opinions?

the constant insults and profanity..really, without them, u are defenseless against my arguments.
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