Ngo Bao Chau has won Fields Medal (Mathermatics Nobel) Options

[formula1]

He's such a inspirational person to myself. May your knowledge and achievements better mankind. You make Vietnamese like myself so proud!!!

[asean.asia]

Recently, there was a topic about xixon intelligent.

Now, I am starting to question ... is Ngo Bao Chau smarter than xixon?

[grandpapa]

Từ những hãng thông tấn danh tiếng thế giới như AP, AFP, tờ Le Monde của Pháp,... đến những báo nhỏ, báo địa phương như TheWest, SHM, Asiafinest, Politifi... khi đưa tin về Đại hội ICM 2010 đều giật tít "người con đất Việt" giành vinh quang trong toán học hoặc Việt Nam đoạt Giải thưởng Fields.

Các báo đều nhắc lại thành công của GS Ngô Bảo Châu khi chứng minh thành công bộ đề cơ bản Langlands, công trình đã được Time xếp vào danh sách một trong 10 phát minh khoa học tiêu biểu nhất thế giới năm 2009.

Hãng AFP bình luận vinh quang của nhà toán học gốc Việt có thể coi như giải Nobel về toán học, đánh dấu một hành trình dài của anh từ thành phố Hà Nội bị tàn phá bởi chiến tranh đến danh sách đặc biệt của Time.

http://laodong.com.vn/tin-tuc/the-gioi-khe...-bao-chau/9994/


This post has been edited by grandpapa: Aug 20 2010, 01:44 AM

[dulldull]

And this is a Fields Medalist:

United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

And no india, no china, no others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal

it seems that the new record results both from his talent, and the amendment on allowing dual nationality in 2008

his background is similar to another mathematician Shing-Tung Yau, the fields medal winner in 1982 who were born in Trieu Chau, raised up and finished his degree in Hong Kong, but his most important work was done in America. As China doesn't allow dual nationality, he retained his American one. Thanks to the amendenment in 2008 in Vietnam that long holds a single nationality principle, Ngo Bao Chau can now have the dual: France and Vietnam.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more Vietnamese to get such achievements in the future, maybe nobel prizes too (if Le Duc Tho isn't counted), but "how to nurture these achievements locally" remains to be a question for the officials and educators who are obsessed with Chau's success to answer.

This post has been edited by dulldull: Aug 20 2010, 02:10 AM

[daxas24]

LOL
I'm on the news

[FieryOFTheEast]

LOL
I'm on the news

For what

[vietnameagle]

congratuation to professor Ngo Bao Chau , damn Viet ppl are genious at math

This post has been edited by vietnameagle: Aug 20 2010, 10:55 AM

[altractiveguy]

it seems that the new record results both from his talent, and the amendment on allowing dual nationality in 2008

his background is similar to another mathematician Shing-Tung Yau, the fields medal winner in 1982 who were born in Trieu Chau, raised up and finished his degree in Hong Kong, but his most important work was done in America. As China doesn't allow dual nationality, he retained his American one. Thanks to the amendenment in 2008 in Vietnam that long holds a single nationality principle, Ngo Bao Chau can now have the dual: France and Vietnam.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more Vietnamese to get such achievements in the future, maybe nobel prizes too (if Le Duc Tho isn't counted), but "how to nurture these achievements locally" remains to be a question for the officials and educators who are obsessed with Chau's success to answer.

Professor Ngo Bao Chau grew up in Hanoi, Vietnam, and won two gold medals for VN in two IMOs (International Math Olympiad) before he went overseas to further his math study. He only became a French citizen recently, early this year so he has dual citizenship now. He explained that with a French passport, it's easier to travel around. He has never lost his Vietnamese citizenship.

His parents are still living in Hanoi. His dad used to serve in the communist North Vietnam's army as a soldier. And, Ngo Bao Chau regularly comes back to VN.

This post has been edited by altractiveguy: Aug 21 2010, 03:41 PM

[HoCockMinh]

And this is a Fields Medalist:

United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

And no india, no china, no others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal

If Chinese American (Shing-Tung Yau) doesn't count in your head for some odd reasons, then your Ngô Bảo Châu (Vietnamese French) shouldn't be counted as well. TOo bad stupid viet dog can't get no nobel prize yet...



This post has been edited by HoCockMinh: Aug 21 2010, 11:18 AM

[altractiveguy]

^ Idiot.

Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence. Fields medals are only handed out to extraordinary individuals every 4 years. Much harder to get than Nobel prizes. Talking about Nobel prizes, Le duc Tho was awarded a Nobel peace prize but he declined it.

Shing-Tung Yau is not China's citizen.





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P/S: I'm smelling jealousy here. dulldull and this HCM impersonator could be of the same gang.

This post has been edited by altractiveguy: Aug 21 2010, 01:32 PM

[HoCockMinh]

^ Idiot.

Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence. Fields medals are only handed out to extraordinary individuals every 4 years. Much harder to get than Nobel prizes. Talking about Nobel prizes, Le duc Tho was awarded a Nobel peace prize but he declined it.

Shing-Tung Yau is not China's citizen.

P/S: I'm smelling jealousy here. dulldull and this HCM impersonator could be of the same gang.

Retard, let me teach you how to read.

First, I never compare Nobel Prizes with Field Medals
Second, when conversing in this specific context I'm referring to "SCIENCE" related Nobel Prizes, dummy!!!!!

Shin-Tung Yau is ethnic Chinese, do you think he's not Chinese just because his citizenship is of USA? LOL!!!!!
If that's your stupid logic, then many Viet American or Viet oversea who doesn't have Vietnam's citizenship, then please from now on stop bragging about them. LOL

Jealously of Viet dogs? LOL

[HoCockMinh]

^ Idiot.

Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence. Fields medals are only handed out to extraordinary individuals every 4 years. Much harder to get than Nobel prizes. Talking about Nobel prizes, Le duc Tho was awarded a Nobel peace prize but he declined it.

Shing-Tung Yau is not China's citizen.


P/S: I'm smelling jealousy here. dulldull and this HCM impersonator could be of the same gang.

"Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence."

LoL, do you think that's not true for biology? physics? chemistry?
Where is viet dog in those fields?

Pathetic dog

[altractiveguy]

"Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence."

LoL, do you think that's not true for biology? physics? chemistry?
Where is viet dog in those fields?

Pathetic dog

Idiot

Math is the backbone of science, the king.

[HoCockMinh]

Idiot

Math is the backbone of science, the king.

Sure, keep doing good at math while fail at everything else...

Yes, math is backbone of all science, yet you people can't utilized the fundamentals in helping you in physics, chemistry, biology and so on and so forth...

Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD

Not once had our little Viet morons won IMO (high school level) competition and awarded 1st place..LOL

$hit

This post has been edited by HoCockMinh: Aug 21 2010, 05:14 PM

[altractiveguy]

Retard, let me teach you how to read.

First, I never compare Nobel Prizes with Field Medals
Second, when conversing in this specific context I'm referring to "SCIENCE" related Nobel Prizes, dummy!!!!!

Shin-Tung Yau is ethnic Chinese, do you think he's not Chinese just because his citizenship is of USA? LOL!!!!!
If that's your stupid logic, then many Viet American or Viet oversea who doesn't have Vietnam's citizenship, then please from now on stop bragging about them. LOL

Jealously of Viet dogs? LOL

You are seriously a retard. Most Overseas Vietnamese still have their Vietnamese citizenship. The communist Viet government has a law saying Viets everywhere around the world are still considered Vietnamese citizens unless they file an application to withdraw. Only recently, (for security reasons) the Viet government made a new law requiring Overseas Viets to file an application to keep their current Vietnamese citizenship or else they are not considered citizens of Vietnam anymore .

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old. HK was only returned to China in 1997 . Please don't claim him when he was educated by someone else.

Countries that has Fields medal winning citizens:


United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal

Sure, keep doing good at math while fail at everything else...

Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD

Not once had our little Viet morons won IMO (high school level) competition and awarded 1st place..LOL

$hit

Education and success? Bad analogy, Idiot. Math is needed everywhere. Without Math, this modern civilization is not possible.

Idiot, IMO is a far away from Fields level, and you are proud of your good HS math-solving students? LOL

Yes, math is backbone of all science, yet you people can't utilized the fundamentals in helping you in physics, chemistry, biology and so on and so forth...

Don't expect too much from an impoverished country right now You are thinking highly of us. I'm feeling honored.

But be prepared, Viets will soon win Nobel prizes in other fields as VN's economy is improving because more money will be poured into research and labs, comparable working environments will help us compete fairly with others.

This post has been edited by altractiveguy: Aug 21 2010, 06:29 PM

[HoCockMinh]

Education and success? Bad analogy, Idiot. Math is needed everywhere. Without Math, this modern civilization is not possible.

Yes, go tell people that think Education correlates with Success is stupid! Education encompassed math skill as well, maybe you are too stupid to understand what "EDUCATION" means! Math nevertheless provides the fundamental that one seeks, however, how one choose to utilized the skill is another case.
Being good at math does not translate to you people succeeding in Physics, Biology and/or Chemistry. If that was the case, instead of asking me to teach you how to debate you will already list bunch of Vietnamese scholars who exceed in Physics, Chemistry and Biology etc.

Idiot, IMO is a far away from Fields level, and you are proud of your good HS math-solving students? LOL

Idiot, that's my point exactly! As smart as you people are, you can't even win a high school level competition.
Idiot, Chinese also won field medals, as well as IMO various times, how about Vietnam?

Making correlation and analogy must be too hard for you, huh?
In what way would you think I'm saying IMO is equal to Field medals?
In what way would you think I'm comparing Chinese achievement in IMO with your Field medalist?
I'm comparing Chinese achievement in IMO with Vietnamese achievement in IMO
Seriously, how better of economy do you need to succeed in High School Level Math competition?

Don't expect too much from an impoverished country right now You are thinking highly of us. I'm feeling honored.

I'm not expecting anything from you, I'm making fun of you.

But be prepared, Viets will soon win Nobel prizes in other fields as VN's economy is improving because more money will be poured into research and labs, comparable working environments will help us compete fairly with others.

Very funny!!!! Study your poor economy before forecasting your wonderful dreams on AF

This post has been edited by HoCockMinh: Aug 21 2010, 05:57 PM

[altractiveguy]

Yes, go tell people that think Education correlates with Success is stupid! Education encompassed math skill as well, maybe you are too stupid to understand what "EDUCATION" means! Math nevertheless provides the fundamental that one seeks, however, how one choose to utilized the skill is another case.
Being good at math does not translate to you people succeeding in Physics, Biology and/or Chemistry. If that was the case, instead of asking me to teach you how to debate you will already list bunch of Vietnamese scholars who exceed in Physics, Chemistry and Biology etc.

You are seriously an idiot. People with an education is more likely to become successful (not a 100% guarantee) but it has nothing do with Math being needed in almost anything, science. That's why it's a bad analogy.

Don't you know VN is behind a lot of countries in almost everything? It takes time, kid. If a viet wins something, it's already a micracle. Right now VN don't even have world stardard labs. It's hard to compete with the rich kids when you are mainly focusing on making money to feed your basic needs right now. That's why I said as VN's economy improves year by year you will see more success stories from VN.

Idiot, that's my point exactly! As smart as you people are, you can't even win a high school level competition.
Idiot, Chinese also won field medals, as well as IMO various times, how about Vietnam?



I'm not expecting anything from you, I'm making fun of you.

Retard.

U.S HS math team is not the best in the HS level math competition yet they have won 13 fields medals. You guys are still stuck at HS math level (math solving robots has its limits ) while others like Americans advanced beyond that level.

LOL, VN's HS students win IMO medals every year although not the best HS math solving team It's not like we don't win anything.

In 2010 IMO, Viets got:

1 gold, 4 silvers, 1 bronze.

Very funny!!!! Study your poor economy before forecasting your wonderful dreams on AF

Keep wishing ill of VN , Keep doing that. Your life will be miserable.

This post has been edited by altractiveguy: Aug 21 2010, 06:44 PM

[HoCockMinh]

You are seriously a retard. Most Overseas Vietnamese still have their Vietnamese citizenship. The communist Viet government has a law saying Viets everywhere around the world are still considered Vietnamese citizens unless the file an application to withdraw. Only recently, (for security reasons) the Viet government made a new law requiring Overseas Viets to file an application to keep their Vietnamese citizenship or else they are not considered citizens of Vietnam anymore .

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old. HK was only returned to China in 1997 . Please don't claim him when he was educated by someone else.

Countries that Fields medal winning citizens:


United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal

You're retard! He's ethnically a Chinese, it doesn't matter what citizenships he holds, he's still a Chinese who got Field Medals.
You're seriously a retard and doesn't understand the "ESSENCE" of a logic! I'm merely saying, a Chinese man also got a field medal despite he represent United States of America.

With your retarded logic, then Ngo Bao also is taught by French man, he didn't get the reward when he was in Vietnam did he? He only got them after studying in France.
Are you telling me people of Hong Kong aren't Chinese just because the official hand over date is 1997? LOL!!!

Talking to you is like talking to a 5 years old

This post has been edited by HoCockMinh: Aug 21 2010, 06:30 PM

[altractiveguy]

You're retard! He's ethnically a Chinese, it doesn't matter what citizenships he holds, he's still a Chinese who got Field Medals.
You're seriously a retard and doesn't understand the "ESSENCE" of a logic! I'm merely saying, a Chinese man also got a field medal despite he represent United States of America.

With your retarded logic, then Ngo Bao also is taught by French man, he didn't get the reward when he was in Vietnam did he? He only got them after studying in France.
Are you telling me people of Hong Kong aren't Chinese just because the official hand over date is 1997? LOL!!!

Talking to you is like talking to a 5 years old

Sorry, Ngo Bao Chau grew up in VN, got his fundamental math education in VN, and won 2 IMO gold medals before he went overseas to further his study. He was not an ordinary kid. Although we won't deny that French math working environment helped him advance further. France can get 30% credit.

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old.

No comparison here.

[HoCockMinh]

You are seriously an idiot. People with an education is more likely to become successful (not a 100% guarantee) but it has nothing do with Math being needed in almost anything, science. That's why it's a bad analogy.

You're an idiot!

Math is backbone of science vs Education is backbone of success is a good analogy

1. Because math is not 100% utilized in science as well, the analogy i'm making is that, they are both (not 100% guarantee) LIke you said so yourself (almost) anything, but not 100%. So it is an analogy depicting the concept it is intended to portrayed

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

Don't you know VN is behind a lot of countries in almost everything? It takes time, kid. If a viet wins something, it's already a micracle. Right now VN don't even have world stardard labs. It's hard to compete with the rich kids when you are mainly focusing on making money to feed your basic needs right now. That's why I said as VN's economy improves year by year you will see more success stories from VN.

Vietnam is always behind a lot of countries since its existence in history, don't you know? Yes, it takes a "LOTS" of time.
Yes, blame it on funding, nutrition, lack of opportunity in a high school level competition if you insist.

Retard.

U.S HS math team is not the best in the HS level math competition yet they has won 13 fields medals. You guys are still stuck at HS math level (math solving robots has its limits ) while others like Americans advanced beyond that level.

LOL, VN's HS students win IMO medals every year although not the best HS math solving team It's not like we don't win anything.

In 2010 IMO, Viets got:

1 gold, 4 silvers, 1 bronze.

Keep wishing ill of VN , Keep doing that. Your life will be miserable.

Yes, they are US, they are not Vietnam. Vietnam sux at both the upper & lower level, that's what I'm trying to point out.
US is known for their quality in higher education, while not the primary. In the long run, what do you think is going to happen?
US is already losing its edge in terms of graduated engineers compare to Asian country like (Japan, Korea, China) etc.
US always attract lots of foreign talents in their higher educations, don't you know?

If stating fact is wishing ill, I'm very sorry to hurt your feeling

This post has been edited by HoCockMinh: Aug 21 2010, 06:51 PM