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Ngo Bao Chau has won Fields Medal (Mathermatics Nobel)
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post Aug 21 2010, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:38 PM) *
Sorry, Ngo Bao Chau grew up in VN, got his fundamental math education in VN, and won 2 IMO gold medals before he went overseas to further his study. He was not an ordinary kid. Although we won't deny that French math working environment helped him advance further. France can get 30% credit.

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old.

No comparison here.


Your logic reasoning is of a child, so a person who's born in a British control Chinese territory is not consider Chinese to you?
So, if any important Vietnamese person would to appear in French occupied Vietnam then that means everything is accredited to French man and not Vietnamese? Is that what you are telling me?

(Using your bias logic) Well, did he or did he not receive the award after he went to France? So please thanks the French man for helping him succeed so it doesn't count toward Vietnamese. LOL

So are you telling me, any Vietnamese scholars who's born in United States of America and has no Vietnam citizenship the Vietnamese people can't take pride in it? LOL!!!!!!!!!! How many Viet historical figure is due to Chinese magnificence, I wonder! After all, Vietnam is under 1,000 years of Chinese rule...

So if he received education prior to 1997 hand over Hong Kong to China still doesn't make him Chinese and have to thanks to white...Then you gotta really thank your Chinese master for 1,000 years of civlizing you idiots...WOuldn't you think so? LOL

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post Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:43 PM) *
You're an idiot!

Math is backbone of science vs Education is backbone of success is a good analogy

1. Because math is not 100% utilized in science as well, the analogy i'm making is that, they are both (not 100% guarantee) LIke you said so yourself (almost) anything, but not 100%. So it is an analogy depicting the concept it is intended to portrayed

Thank you for reinforcing my point.


Idiot. You can be succesful without a high education. A farmer can get rich by growing some high demand produce. He then can buy a big house, a car, marry a beatiful wife...

Advanced civilization can't be built without the help of math.




QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:43 PM) *
Vietnam is always behind a lot of countries since its existence in history, don't you know? Yes, it takes a "LOTS" of time.
Yes, blame it on funding, nutrition, lack of opportunity in a high school level competition if you insist.


Lol, in the past, VN was a lot better than many countries, in the past's standards of course. And, of course, it can not be better than a empire with ~20x population contributing. Grow a brain.



QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:43 PM) *
Yes, they are US, they are not Vietnam. Vietnam sux at both the upper & lower level, that's what I'm trying to point out.
US is known for their quality in secondary education, while not the primary. In the long run, what do you think is going to happen?
US is already losing its edge in terms of graduated engineers compare to Asian country like (Japan, Korea, China) etc.
US always attract lots of foreign talents in their secondary educations, don't you know?

If stating fact is wishing ill, I'm very sorry to hurt your feeling


VN does not really suck. They do get medals in the HS math level although, not the best icon_smile.gif and one Viet just got a Fields medal today. Don't hate, man icon_smile.gif

Yes, Japan, Korea, and even China became better, thanks to U.S's great help, not to say guys wouldn't become better without U.S's help. But the U.S's help made you guys became significantly better. Trading with the U.S's made you guys a lot of money, not to mention, many got their education, got tech transfer from the U.S.

Sorry, Quality beats quantities. Korea's or Japan's... higher college gruaduating rates don't mean much.

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post Aug 21 2010, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Idiot. You can be succesful without a high education. A farmer can get rich by growing some high demand produce. He then can buy a big house, a car, marry a beatiful wife...


Exactly, that's why I said Education doesn't always translate to sucess, can't you read and comprehend what people wrote?

"Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD"

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Advanced civilization can't be built with the help of math.


Advanced civilization can't be built without the help of math. Do you need to learn English?
Still, math alone doesn't dictate 100% of outcome, other factors are involved in creating an advance civilization.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Lol, it the past, VN was a lot better than many countries, in the past standards of course. and, of course, it can not be better than a empire with ~20x population contributing.


Mind sharing what time frame you were referring to? You mean when it was occupied 1,000 years and forced to learn and adopt its master's language/cultural/philosophy?

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
VN does not really suck. They do get medals in the HS math level although, not the best icon_smile.gif and one Viet just got a Fields medal today. Don't hate, man icon_smile.gif


In general Vietnam don't suck, but when comparing with China or other country it DOES suck! I'm sorry if you think stating fact = hating.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Yes, Japan, Korea, and even China became better, thanks to U.S's great help, not to say guys wouldn't become better without U.S's help. But the U.S's help made you guys became significantly better. Trading with the U.S's made you guys a lot of money, not to mention, many got their education, got tech transfer from the U.S.


Yes, U.S also got a lot of help from Europe, as it is basically a melting pot of many great mind that came from Europe.
Europe is indebted to many ancient civilization like Chinese, Indian etc...Not sure about Vietnam though...LOL

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Sorry, Quality beats quantities. Korea's or Japan's college gruaduating rates don't mean much.


Yes, Vietnam lack both (Quality and Quantity) that's a shame.

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post Aug 21 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:48 PM) *
Your logic reasoning is of a child, so a person who's born in a British control Chinese territory is not consider Chinese to you?
So, if any important Vietnamese person would to appear in French occupied Vietnam then that means everything is accredited to French man and not Vietnamese? Is that what you are telling me?

(Using your bias logic) Well, did he or did he not receive the award after he went to France? So please thanks the French man for helping him succeed so it doesn't count toward Vietnamese. LOL



Retard,

Nobody denies his roots were Teochew. But he became succesful not because of China's education. Remember he left for British controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old where he got a British style education.

While Ngo Bao Chau got well educated in VN, won 2 IMO medals before he went overseas. France couldn't have made some stupid Vietnamese win a Fields Medal.

It's not like we don't give France credit. As I said previously, France got 30% credit.



QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:48 PM) *
So are you telling me, any Vietnamese scholars who's born in United States of America and has no Vietnam citizenship the Vietnamese people can't take pride in it? LOL!!!!!!!!!! How many Viet historical figure is due to Chinese magnificence I wonder after all Vietnam is under 1,000 years of Chinese rule...

So if he received education prior to 1997 hand over Hong Kong to China still doesn't make him Chinese and have to thanks to white...Then you gotta really thank your Chinese master for 1,000 years of civlizing you idiots...WOuldn't you think so? LOL


No, I'm not telling you that Viets can't take pride in but still, one can not deny that America made them great. America gets most of the credit.

How many historical figures in China was not Han, but contributed greatly to the the empire? LOL. Think before you speak.

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post Aug 21 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:15 PM) *
Retard,

Nobody denies his roots were Teochew. But he became succesful not because of China's education.

While Ngo Bao Chau got well educated in VN, won 2 IMO medals before he went overseas. France couldn't have made some stupid Vietnamese win a Fields Medal.

It's not like we don't give France credit. As I said previously, France got 30% credit.


Retard, how does moving to Hong Kong translate to him not being Chinese or his education not being Chinese taught? Just because it was on a supposedly British ruled place? When can you refute a sentence and stop repeating same thing 3x time? So can I argue Bao is not successful because of Vietnam's education? LOL!!!!!!! So if both of them aren't successful because of their native country's educational system, then what's your purpose of saying that? LOL

And Shing-Tung Yau did not received education in Hong Kong? he didn't study under Chinese school system? France shifted bunch of idiot from writing Chinese character to Latin in mere few centuries of times, you would be amazed at what the French master can do for its slaves

Its not like I'm saying Shing-Tung Yau doesn't represent America, I practically wrote that flat out.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:15 PM) *
No, I'm not telling you that Viets can't take pride in but still can not deny that America made them great

How many historical figures in China was not Han, but contributed greatly to the the empire? LOL. Think before you speak.


So why rant on when Hong Kong was officially handed to China? What difference does it make? Both are born in their native land, taught in their native educational systems and went abroad and get recognition. You're the idiot that's making a big fuss about it!

How many people today contributed to America today? Think before you compare it with China.
How many people from Vietnam contribute to China vs what China contribute to Vietnam?

Think before you bark little dog

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post Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Exactly, that's why I said Education doesn't always translate to sucess, can't you read and comprehend what people wrote?

"Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD"


Retards can't learn.
Of course Viets can become successful in other fields icon_smile.gif. We will get other prizes soon icon_smile.gif Remember VN is still 20-30 years behind China icon_smile.gif So don't expect from us too much. You're thinking too highly of us. We are feeling honored.

QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Advanced civilization can't be built without the help of math. Do you need to learn English?
Still, math alone doesn't dictate 100% of outcome, other factors are involved in creating an advance civilization.


Too bad, you were kinda slow. I already fixed my mistake before you made your reply. How pathetic, attacking my minor error.


QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Mind sharing what time frame you were referring to? You mean when it was occupied 1,000 years and forced to learn and adopt its master's language/cultural/philosophy?


like Vietnam under Nguyen Hue's rule, and many periods under previous rulers...

Hey go outside and pick a fight with a viet, one on one fight to prove your superior, lol.

2000 years ago, 500k nothern men came and bullied a population with a total population of ~ 1 million people (women, children, old people included) LOL. How pathetic yet someone is now proud of their actions.


QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
In general Vietnam don't suck, but when comparing with China or other country it DOES suck! I'm sorry if you think stating fact = hating.

Yes, U.S also got a lot of help from Europe, as it is basically a melting pot of many great mind that came from Europe.
Europe is indebted to many ancient civilization like Chinese, Indian etc...Not sure about Vietnam though...LOL

Yes, Vietnam lack both (Quality and Quantity) that's a shame.


Imagine what VN could have turned out to be if we got that much help? LOL

Yes, comparing VN with an Empire with 20x the population and land, LOL. How pathetic can you get.

You could be a defeated Miao who got assimilated into the mixed pot Chinese ethnic, so don't be too proud LOL.

Hey, VN is just a small country. But you are thinking highly of us. We are feeling honored.

VN is advancing. Don't hate.


That's it for you, office. I know you will keep dragging on the fight if I don't stop. We know you too well. You can get hurt easily.


So this is my last post for you.

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QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
Retards can't learn.
Of course Viets can become successful in other fields icon_smile.gif. We will get other prizes soon icon_smile.gif Remember VN is still 20-30 years behind China icon_smile.gif So don't expect from us too much. You're thinking too highly of us. We are feeling honored.


Yes, but the question is "when" and compare to who! If you compare with your SE Asian brethren, of course you will think you're successful. However, when you compared with East Asians then that's a different case. You see there's a hierarchy of how things is being run. No problem, Chinese master doesn't mind comparing with Vietnamese slaves from time to time.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
Too bad, you were kinda slow. I already fixed my mistake before you made your reply. How pathetic, attacking my minor error.


Too bad you are the slow one that lets me noticed it (in the first place). LOL

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
like Vietnam under Nguyen Hue's rule, and many periods under previous rulers... Hey go outside and pick a fight with a viet, one one one fight to prove your superior, lol.


Nguyen Hue reign 1788-1792. Hmmm ok!!! LOL...So vietnam is better than other country in what way or form? LOL!! OR because you said so!!!
China already picked a fight with little Viet and occupied it 1,000 years. I don't want to hurt your feeling

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
2000 years ago, 500k Nothern men came and bullied a population with a total population of ~ 1 million people (women, children, old people included) LOL. How pathetic yet someone is now proud of their actions.


I'm not proud, I feel sorry for the Vietnamese.
I always feel sorry for the weak ones.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
Yes, comparing VN with an Empire with 20x the population and land, LOL. How pathetic can you get.

You could be a defeated Miao who got assimilated into the mixed pot Chinese ethnic, so don't be too proud LOL.

Hey, VN is just a small country. But you are thinking highly of us. We are feeling honored.

VN is advancing. Don't hate.

That's it for you, office. I know you will keep dragging on the fight if I don't stop. We know you too well. You can get hurt easily.

So this is my last post for you.



You people are the idiots who compare with China in the first place! Oh yeah, you're small so its ok, hahahaha

You could be a defeated Viet who's intermix with Chinese master blood, so be proud as well. Maybe intermix with a Miao turn Chinese master...

No problem, I always think highly of my dog from time to time...

Every country is advancing in their own ways. Maybe those pathetic progress is "advancing" in your standard. LOL

Who's office? My friend on AF?

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May bua nay tin ve GS Ngo Bao Chau rum beng wa hen biggrin.gif . Tu hao Viet Nam . Proud of him !!!
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QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:51 PM) *
Yes, but the question is "when" and compare to who! If you compare with your SE Asian brethren, of course you will think you're successful. However, when you compared with East Asians then that's a different case. You see there's a hierarchy of how things is being run. No problem, Chinese master doesn't mind comparing with Vietnamese slaves from time to time.



Too bad you are the slow one that lets me noticed it (in the first place). LOL



Nguyen Hue reign 1788-1792. Hmmm ok!!! LOL...So vietnam is better than other country in what way or form? LOL!! OR because you said so!!!
China already picked a fight with little Viet and occupied it 1,000 years. I don't want to hurt your feeling



I'm not proud, I feel sorry for the Vietnamese.
I always feel sorry for the weak ones.


You people are the idiots who compare with China in the first place! Oh yeah, you're small so its ok, hahahaha

You could be a defeated Viet who's intermix with Chinese master blood, so be proud as well. Maybe intermix with a Miao turn Chinese master...

No problem, I always think highly of my dog from time to time...

Every country is advancing in their own ways. Maybe those pathetic progress is "advancing" in your standard. LOL

Who's office? My friend on AF?


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i did not follow this thread

so did them chinese claim ngo bao chau as 1/32 chinese too ?????

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QUOTE (Tav6 @ Sep 4 2010, 01:39 PM) *
i did not follow this thread

so did them chinese claim ngo bao chau as 1/32 chinese too ?????

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We'll see. ^_^
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QUOTE (log @ Sep 4 2010, 11:33 AM) *
We'll see. ^_^



please go watch some more taiwanese news maybe one day when the news are slow they might have it on there embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
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QUOTE (Tav6 @ Sep 4 2010, 04:20 PM) *
please go watch some more taiwanese news maybe one day when the news are slow they might have it on there embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif


Go find more talented Vietnamese that has nothing to do with China or Chinese ^_^
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QUOTE (log @ Sep 4 2010, 01:27 PM) *
Go find more talented Vietnamese that has nothing to do with China or Chinese ^_^



there are plenty but your desperation is what blinds you from the fact beerchug.gif
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QUOTE (Tav6 @ Sep 4 2010, 04:28 PM) *
there are plenty but your desperation is what blinds you from the fact beerchug.gif


Coming from people that has riping off of China for majority of existence is a very funny statement. ^_^

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QUOTE (log @ Sep 4 2010, 01:30 PM) *
Coming from people that has riping off of China for majority of existence is a very funny statement. ^_^



sure but it doesnt have anything to do with some one blood line now does it

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QUOTE (Tav6 @ Sep 4 2010, 04:32 PM) *
sure but it doesnt have anything to do with some one blood line now does it

logic failed again embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif


If stating fact = desperation to you, then I hardly doubt you understand how it "has anything" to do "with anything" ^_^

Retard is always a retard. ^_^
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QUOTE (log @ Sep 4 2010, 01:34 PM) *
If stating fact = desperation to you, then I hardly doubt you understand how it "has anything" to do "with anything" ^_^

Retard is always a retard. ^_^




lmao the sad thing is that u can not separate facts from fiction ...

if your so call facts is true then how come we can not find anything on the net that support your suppose facts????????
no other source can back up your so call taiwanese source


and yet u still hold on to believe that it is a fact rotflmao.gif
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QUOTE (Tav6 @ Sep 4 2010, 04:37 PM) *
lmao the sad thing is that u can not separate facts from fiction ...

if your so call facts is true then how come we can not find anything on the net that support your suppose facts????????
no other source can back up your so call taiwanese source


and yet u still hold on to believe that it is a fact rotflmao.gif


Well, the sad thing is, you can't prove that it is a fiction, since you know deep down it is a fact, no? ^_^

So, just because something is not on the net then the supposed "fact" is not fact anymore? Retard is always a retard! ^_^

It is you who think that's not a fact ^_^
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QUOTE (log @ Sep 4 2010, 01:40 PM) *
Well, the sad thing is, you can't prove that it is a fiction, since you know deep down it is a fact, no? ^_^

So, just because something is not on the net then the supposed "fact" is not fact anymore? Retard is always a retard! ^_^

It is you who think that's not a fact ^_^



and u cant prove that your fact is a fact because u know deep down it is not a fact

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