China may be open to democracy in the future |
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China may be open to democracy in the future |
Oct 15 2010, 01:03 PM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,784 Joined: 5-April 10 From: AF Supreme Admin |
the CCP have met in Beijing to draw up economic plans for the next five years. amidst the Nobel Peace Prize row, china's agenda are increasingly becoming democracized. check this out: http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/artic...26890_3216.html a summary of the essential points: in the next 5-year plan, china wants to close the gap between the rich and poor. china looks for ways to develop an economy that is not esport-dependent. premier Wen jiabao has said "the calls for democracy and freedom will become irresistable" (in effect the china is admitting democracy will come and it won't be able to stop it) some members in the CCP and the chinese media have said "if the chinese communist party does not reform itself, if it does not transform itself, it will die a natural death" |
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Jan 17 2011, 04:51 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,511 Joined: 26-July 10 From: love & light |
the CCP have met in Beijing to draw up economic plans for the next five years. amidst the Nobel Peace Prize row, china's agenda are increasingly becoming democracized. check this out: http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/artic...26890_3216.html a summary of the essential points: in the next 5-year plan, china wants to close the gap between the rich and poor. china looks for ways to develop an economy that is not esport-dependent. premier Wen jiabao has said "the calls for democracy and freedom will become irresistable" (in effect the china is admitting democracy will come and it won't be able to stop it) some members in the CCP and the chinese media have said "if the chinese communist party does not reform itself, if it does not transform itself, it will die a natural death" Wishful Thinking, they must be foreign puppets to advocate for democracy. |
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Jan 18 2011, 06:05 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,784 Joined: 5-April 10 From: AF Supreme Admin |
Wishful Thinking, they must be foreign puppets to advocate for democracy. perhaps democracy is the wrong word. i take that back. that word is so heavily laden with western connotations. by democracy i actually meant china is becoming more mindful and considerate for prosperity and well-being of the common people. |
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Feb 15 2011, 11:14 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 1-January 11 |
perhaps democracy is the wrong word. i take that back. that word is so heavily laden with western connotations. by democracy i actually meant china is becoming more mindful and considerate for prosperity and well-being of the common people. here is the full translation of the report in English, lets discuss the report, its content, connotations, feasibility of its intended goals. without our political orientation and personal differences. deep down I hope Dr, Sun Yet Sen's dream and his idealogy didn't died. The Chinese Communist Party meets amid calls for democratization The Plenum of the Communist Party of China opened in Beijing Friday, Oct. 15 Premier Wen Jiabao has created the surprise early October 15 with unpublished reports to U.S. television network CNN censored China, AP / Virginia Mayo The Plenum of the Communist Party of China opened in Beijing Friday, Oct. 15 admids multiple calls for democratization in China, encouraged by the award of the Nobel Peace dissident Liu Xiaobo a week ago. Officially, the five-year plan 2011-2015, which is on the agenda of the plenary session taking place behind closed doors in a large hotel in downtown Beijing. But it could be the scene of intense political battles. The 12th Five Year Plan should contain few surprises and validate the policy now to promote domestic demand to reduce the dependence of China's exports and improve social security coverage to avoid a further deepening the gap between rich and the poor. However, political reforms should generate debate, probably alive, as we approach the end of the mandates of President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao in 2013 UNPUBLISHED REPORTS Wen, generally perceived as more liberal than Mr. Hu, was created in early October surprise with unpublished reports to U.S. television network CNN, censored in China. "I believe freedom of expression is essential in all countries, he said, calls for democracy and freedom will become irresistible." "Recent statements by Wen Jiabao represent the opinion of a faction within the party that hopes to move quickly [on the reform plan], but this faction does not necessarily prevail, "said Willy Lam of the Chinese University of Hong Kong This week, former senior officials of the CPC and Chinese media have challenged the government in a very direct style petition denouncing the lack of freedom of expression. "If the Communist Party did not reform itself, if not transformed, he will die a natural death, " say the authors of the letter published on the Internet before being cleared by the censors. On Friday, another bold letter gathering hundreds of signatures calling on leaders to free the Nobel Liu Xiaobo and other dissenters, and to "implement a peaceful social transition to make China a democratic country, endowed with rule of law worthy of the name A week after the award of the Nobel Peace Prize, Beijing is still furious. Blaming the West, the Global Times newspaper, close to the regime, insisted Friday on the "progressive political reform" under way in China and "stability [that] the Chinese cherish |
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Feb 18 2011, 10:43 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,784 Joined: 5-April 10 From: AF Supreme Admin |
here is the full translation of the report in English, lets discuss the report, its content, connotations, feasibility of its intended goals. without our political orientation and personal differences. deep down I hope Dr, Sun Yet Sen's dream and his idealogy didn't died. The Chinese Communist Party meets amid calls for democratization The Plenum of the Communist Party of China opened in Beijing Friday, Oct. 15 Premier Wen Jiabao has created the surprise early October 15 with unpublished reports to U.S. television network CNN censored China, AP / Virginia Mayo The Plenum of the Communist Party of China opened in Beijing Friday, Oct. 15 admids multiple calls for democratization in China, encouraged by the award of the Nobel Peace dissident Liu Xiaobo a week ago. Officially, the five-year plan 2011-2015, which is on the agenda of the plenary session taking place behind closed doors in a large hotel in downtown Beijing. But it could be the scene of intense political battles. The 12th Five Year Plan should contain few surprises and validate the policy now to promote domestic demand to reduce the dependence of China's exports and improve social security coverage to avoid a further deepening the gap between rich and the poor. However, political reforms should generate debate, probably alive, as we approach the end of the mandates of President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao in 2013 UNPUBLISHED REPORTS Wen, generally perceived as more liberal than Mr. Hu, was created in early October surprise with unpublished reports to U.S. television network CNN, censored in China. "I believe freedom of expression is essential in all countries, he said, calls for democracy and freedom will become irresistible." "Recent statements by Wen Jiabao represent the opinion of a faction within the party that hopes to move quickly [on the reform plan], but this faction does not necessarily prevail, "said Willy Lam of the Chinese University of Hong Kong This week, former senior officials of the CPC and Chinese media have challenged the government in a very direct style petition denouncing the lack of freedom of expression. "If the Communist Party did not reform itself, if not transformed, he will die a natural death, " say the authors of the letter published on the Internet before being cleared by the censors. On Friday, another bold letter gathering hundreds of signatures calling on leaders to free the Nobel Liu Xiaobo and other dissenters, and to "implement a peaceful social transition to make China a democratic country, endowed with rule of law worthy of the name A week after the award of the Nobel Peace Prize, Beijing is still furious. Blaming the West, the Global Times newspaper, close to the regime, insisted Friday on the "progressive political reform" under way in China and "stability [that] the Chinese cherish u're going to see more of this in the future as the common people become wealthier and more educated and internationally exposed. it will come gradually and peacefully. nothing like the french revolution. i hope the pro-reform faction does prevail. if not now we'll definitely see more of them in the next generation of leaders. |
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KraterosHellas China may be open to democracy in the future Oct 15 2010, 01:03 PM
phop QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 02:0... Oct 15 2010, 09:41 PM
KraterosHellas it sure is. democracy often lacks direction and pu... Oct 16 2010, 12:33 AM
phop One thing you need to know is that in a country wh... Oct 16 2010, 01:05 PM
sunshine90210 Addition: The corporations rule the government as ... Oct 27 2010, 07:19 AM
sudowoodoo They are just talking about increasing some freedo... Nov 19 2010, 03:39 PM
Taln China periodically advances tenets of a democratic... Nov 26 2010, 07:15 PM
African Chinese democracy will never be like western style... Nov 27 2010, 07:51 AM
KraterosHellas ^western style is too free and chaotic. Nov 28 2010, 07:24 PM
Suijen I don't think he means full multiparty democr... Nov 30 2010, 10:10 AM
MilknCereal I think it'll become more democratic in a sens... Dec 3 2010, 01:23 AM
MiddleKingdom1 China will test trial democracy in Hong Kong in 20... Dec 4 2010, 12:06 AM
Suijen HK is ready for democracy. Hopefully it'd be ... Dec 14 2010, 09:40 AM
Hugham QUOTE (Suijen @ Dec 14 2010, 10:40 PM) HK... Dec 14 2010, 10:28 AM
Hugham Yes, China will became a democracy.
But it will b... Dec 14 2010, 10:12 AM
mndeg democracy doesn't work Dec 14 2010, 12:35 PM
elleX0 What ever form of government evolves in China, it ... Feb 18 2011, 12:06 PM
PeterKChan I am OK and support democracy in China (as I assum... Feb 20 2011, 05:44 AM
elleX0 China should draw up their own Civil Rights, or Bi... Feb 20 2011, 11:41 AM
KraterosHellas QUOTE (elleX0 @ Feb 20 2011, 11:41 AM) Ch... Feb 24 2011, 08:36 PM
Suijen QUOTE (elleX0 @ Feb 21 2011, 01:41 AM) Ch... Feb 24 2011, 11:03 PM
elleX0 I did not realise there have been several replies ... Feb 27 2011, 05:34 AM
Suijen Canada has that problem also in deporting corrupt ... Feb 27 2011, 06:05 AM
African Its good to be honest with what one says. Mar 2 2011, 09:11 AM
ReindeerGirl Hi all,
It would be interesting to see how China w... May 5 2011, 09:28 PM
elleX0 QUOTE (ReindeerGirl @ May 6 2011, 03:28 A... May 7 2011, 02:20 AM
x22x QUOTE (elleX0 @ May 7 2011, 03:20 AM) Rei... Sep 5 2011, 03:38 PM
elleX0 QUOTE (x22x @ Sep 5 2011, 09:38 PM) This ... Sep 6 2011, 01:54 AM
LoveNStrife The key is not how the government is chosen, but h... Sep 6 2011, 01:01 PM
freezingpoint QUOTE (LoveNStrife @ Sep 6 2011, 01:01 PM... Sep 6 2011, 03:30 PM
LoveNStrife QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 6 2011, 01:30 ... Sep 6 2011, 05:22 PM
martin_nuke Democracy means freedom of Religion which Buddhism... Sep 6 2011, 07:07 PM
LoveNStrife QUOTE (martin_nuke @ Sep 6 2011, 05:07 PM... Sep 7 2011, 12:08 AM
port19 Take for example Greece..the root of democracy?? N... Nov 9 2011, 08:11 PM
KraterosHellas QUOTE (port19 @ Nov 9 2011, 08:11 PM) Tak... Nov 10 2011, 02:23 AM
port19 Yes EU loses it's individualism & independ... Nov 10 2011, 08:04 PM
truthfinder QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 02:0... Nov 21 2011, 01:48 AM
zerohunt QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 02:0... Dec 25 2011, 03:55 PM
elleX0 QUOTE (zerohunt @ Dec 25 2011, 08:55 PM) ... Dec 27 2011, 07:02 AM
zerohunt jeah thats the problem but u can see similar situa... Dec 28 2011, 02:56 AM
elleX0 PRC will never accept democracy if that means the ... Jan 30 2012, 12:12 PM![]() ![]() |
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