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China may be open to democracy in the future
KraterosHellas
post Oct 15 2010, 01:03 PM
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the CCP have met in Beijing to draw up economic plans for the next five years. amidst the Nobel Peace Prize row, china's agenda are increasingly becoming democracized. check this out:

http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/artic...26890_3216.html

a summary of the essential points:

in the next 5-year plan, china wants to close the gap between the rich and poor.

china looks for ways to develop an economy that is not esport-dependent.

premier Wen jiabao has said "the calls for democracy and freedom will become irresistable" (in effect the china is admitting democracy will come and it won't be able to stop it)

some members in the CCP and the chinese media have said "if the chinese communist party does not reform itself, if it does not transform itself, it will die a natural death"
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post Feb 27 2011, 05:34 AM
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I did not realise there have been several replies that I should be making. There can be some confusion about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that nation states have signed up to and tried to observe. This Declaration was drawn up by Western Nations to suit their vision of what "Human Rights" should be according to their own standards, which is a Western Christian Standard.

Some of us (civilians) in Britain seem to get the impression that these Human Rights seem to protect the criminal more than it protects the innocent victim. This may sound crazy, but in Britain we cannot deport some Jihadist terrorist criminals (proven in a court of law as such) to their country of origin because their original country still observe the death penalty and so we would be violating the criminals Human Rights. So we have to keep such criminals in Britain, provide them with all the "welfare benefits" housing, medical, schooling, etc at taxpayers expense. Most of them even have a higher standard of living as a convicted criminal out on license than the local inhabitants. This is crazy.

We even have to let in known murderers and other criminals because of the EU laws of immigration and we cannot stop them. Our national sovereignty has been neutralised because of the Human Rights conventions and EU regulations. It has become farcical. So much so that Britain has raised the possibility of writing our own "Bill of Rights" in order to regain some independence for our legal system. This is what I mean that the Human Rights Declaration has been badly written and has neutered national sovereignty. This must change.

Also the Islamic Ummah has sought to draft their own codes for Islamic Human Rights and it is quite different from that of the UN version. To compare go to this link:
Universal Islamic Declaration of Human Rights

China's problems are different from that in Europe and America and they should have their own codes to follow. It should be similar but it should be adjusted to fit Eastern cultural needs.
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- KraterosHellas   China may be open to democracy in the future   Oct 15 2010, 01:03 PM
- - phop   QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 02:0...   Oct 15 2010, 09:41 PM
- - KraterosHellas   it sure is. democracy often lacks direction and pu...   Oct 16 2010, 12:33 AM
|- - phop   One thing you need to know is that in a country wh...   Oct 16 2010, 01:05 PM
- - sunshine90210   Addition: The corporations rule the government as ...   Oct 27 2010, 07:19 AM
- - sudowoodoo   They are just talking about increasing some freedo...   Nov 19 2010, 03:39 PM
- - Taln   China periodically advances tenets of a democratic...   Nov 26 2010, 07:15 PM
- - African   Chinese democracy will never be like western style...   Nov 27 2010, 07:51 AM
- - KraterosHellas   ^western style is too free and chaotic.   Nov 28 2010, 07:24 PM
- - Suijen    I don't think he means full multiparty democr...   Nov 30 2010, 10:10 AM
- - MilknCereal   I think it'll become more democratic in a sens...   Dec 3 2010, 01:23 AM
- - MiddleKingdom1   China will test trial democracy in Hong Kong in 20...   Dec 4 2010, 12:06 AM
- - Suijen   HK is ready for democracy. Hopefully it'd be ...   Dec 14 2010, 09:40 AM
|- - Hugham   QUOTE (Suijen @ Dec 14 2010, 10:40 PM) HK...   Dec 14 2010, 10:28 AM
- - Hugham   Yes, China will became a democracy. But it will b...   Dec 14 2010, 10:12 AM
- - mndeg   democracy doesn't work   Dec 14 2010, 12:35 PM
- - ClassicalMusic   QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 12:0...   Jan 17 2011, 04:51 AM
|- - KraterosHellas   QUOTE (ClassicalMusic @ Jan 17 2011, 04:5...   Jan 18 2011, 06:05 AM
|- - tseto   QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Jan 18 2011, 06:0...   Feb 15 2011, 11:14 PM
|- - KraterosHellas   QUOTE (tseto @ Feb 15 2011, 11:14 PM) her...   Feb 18 2011, 10:43 AM
- - elleX0   What ever form of government evolves in China, it ...   Feb 18 2011, 12:06 PM
- - PeterKChan   I am OK and support democracy in China (as I assum...   Feb 20 2011, 05:44 AM
- - elleX0   China should draw up their own Civil Rights, or Bi...   Feb 20 2011, 11:41 AM
|- - KraterosHellas   QUOTE (elleX0 @ Feb 20 2011, 11:41 AM) Ch...   Feb 24 2011, 08:36 PM
|- - Suijen   QUOTE (elleX0 @ Feb 21 2011, 01:41 AM) Ch...   Feb 24 2011, 11:03 PM
- - elleX0   I did not realise there have been several replies ...   Feb 27 2011, 05:34 AM
- - Suijen   Canada has that problem also in deporting corrupt ...   Feb 27 2011, 06:05 AM
- - African   Its good to be honest with what one says.   Mar 2 2011, 09:11 AM
- - ReindeerGirl   Hi all, It would be interesting to see how China w...   May 5 2011, 09:28 PM
|- - elleX0   QUOTE (ReindeerGirl @ May 6 2011, 03:28 A...   May 7 2011, 02:20 AM
|- - x22x   QUOTE (elleX0 @ May 7 2011, 03:20 AM) Rei...   Sep 5 2011, 03:38 PM
|- - elleX0   QUOTE (x22x @ Sep 5 2011, 09:38 PM) This ...   Sep 6 2011, 01:54 AM
- - LoveNStrife   The key is not how the government is chosen, but h...   Sep 6 2011, 01:01 PM
|- - freezingpoint   QUOTE (LoveNStrife @ Sep 6 2011, 01:01 PM...   Sep 6 2011, 03:30 PM
|- - LoveNStrife   QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 6 2011, 01:30 ...   Sep 6 2011, 05:22 PM
- - martin_nuke   Democracy means freedom of Religion which Buddhism...   Sep 6 2011, 07:07 PM
|- - LoveNStrife   QUOTE (martin_nuke @ Sep 6 2011, 05:07 PM...   Sep 7 2011, 12:08 AM
- - port19   Take for example Greece..the root of democracy?? N...   Nov 9 2011, 08:11 PM
|- - KraterosHellas   QUOTE (port19 @ Nov 9 2011, 08:11 PM) Tak...   Nov 10 2011, 02:23 AM
|- - port19   Yes EU loses it's individualism & independ...   Nov 10 2011, 08:04 PM
- - truthfinder   QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 02:0...   Nov 21 2011, 01:48 AM
- - zerohunt   QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Oct 15 2010, 02:0...   Dec 25 2011, 03:55 PM
|- - elleX0   QUOTE (zerohunt @ Dec 25 2011, 08:55 PM) ...   Dec 27 2011, 07:02 AM
- - zerohunt   jeah thats the problem but u can see similar situa...   Dec 28 2011, 02:56 AM
- - elleX0   PRC will never accept democracy if that means the ...   Jan 30 2012, 12:12 PM


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